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Re: Rubbish.
Posted By: ArchilenDate: 8/22/12 3:34 p.m.

In Response To: Rubbish. (kapowaz)


: The aesthetic 343i is pursuing with multiplayer armour is deeply
: disappointing to me. It just doesn't feel even remotely grounded in the
: Halo universe, and is a terrible misstep when you compare it with (for
: example) some of the unused concepts from Halo Reach:

: I appreciate 343i want to put their own mark on the series, but this doesn't
: feel like Halo to me, but more like some bastard child of Zero Divide and
: various other anime characters.

: Maybe pursuing this notion of MP being all contained within the virtual
: environment of Infinity's training decks has led us down this route, but I
: for one miss the gritty, war-worn aesthetic Bungie created for Reach.

This 100%. I think the artistic evolution of the UNSC military aesthetic (and MJOLNIR perms) peaked at Reach's designs, likely in no small part due to Isaac Hannaford's talent, but now it's taken a nose dive with Halo 4's cartoonish and downright silly direction. Whereas Reach's armor looked functional and stylistically focused, H4's designs are all over the place - instead of definitive and easily identifiable general shapes, they're crammed full of completely unnecessary detail like spikes, protrusions, vents, holes and so on. Simplicity is always better, no matter how many polygons you have at your disposal.


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     Re: 8/15 Bulletin is up!LostSpartan987 8/15/12 10:09 p.m.
           Re: 8/15 Bulletin is up!Metalingus627 8/15/12 10:28 p.m.
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                             Oh god I'm blind!LostSpartan987 8/16/12 8:35 a.m.
                                   Re: Oh god I'm blind!JDQuackers 8/16/12 8:49 a.m.
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                             Let's try that again.Metalingus627 8/16/12 7:44 p.m.
                                   Re: Let's try that again.LostSpartan987 8/16/12 8:01 p.m.
           ALL of them?ZackDark 8/15/12 10:35 p.m.
                 Re: ALL of them?LostSpartan987 8/15/12 10:40 p.m.
                 I love the recon helmet....Bryan Newman 8/15/12 10:42 p.m.
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                                                                                         Re: Visor centric helmets, eh? *IMG*bluerunner 8/20/12 9:37 a.m.
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                                                                                         Re: Visor centric helmets, eh? *IMG*General Vagueness 8/20/12 2:06 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Visor centric helmets, eh? *IMG*NotTheVacuum 8/20/12 2:12 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Visor centric helmets, eh? *IMG*General Vagueness 8/20/12 2:30 p.m.
                                                                                                           At least they don't hold them sideways *NM*NotTheVacuum 8/20/12 2:45 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: At least they don't hold them sidewaysbluerunner 8/20/12 3:19 p.m.
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                                                           Re: Visor centric helmets, eh? *IMG*Quirel 8/17/12 12:25 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Visor centric helmets, eh? *IMG*bluerunner 8/17/12 12:51 p.m.
                                         Neat enough in their own right...Nikko B201 8/16/12 4:44 p.m.
                       Theory on why there's mixed feelings on theseserpx 8/20/12 9:24 p.m.
                             Re: Theory on why there's mixed feelings on thesedavidfuchs 8/20/12 9:26 p.m.
                                   Re: Theory on why there's mixed feelings on theseserpx 8/20/12 9:56 p.m.
                                         Re: Theory on why there's mixed feelings on theseChewbaccawakka 8/20/12 10:40 p.m.
                                         Re: Theory on why there's mixed feelings on theseQuirel 8/20/12 11:25 p.m.
                                               Good Catch! *NM*NotTheVacuum 8/21/12 8:36 a.m.
                                                     Good Catch?!Quirel 8/21/12 8:43 a.m.
                                                           Re: Good Catch?!NotTheVacuum 8/21/12 9:14 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Good Catch?!Quirel 8/21/12 9:56 a.m.
                                               Re: Theory on why there's mixed feelings on theseRC Master 8/21/12 9:36 a.m.
                                                     Re: Theory on why there's mixed feelings on theseQuirel 8/21/12 9:58 a.m.
                                                           Re: Theory on why there's mixed feelings on theseserpx 8/21/12 10:00 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Theory on why there's mixed feelings on theseQuirel 8/21/12 11:12 a.m.
                                               Re: Theory on why there's mixed feelings on theseHedgemony 8/21/12 10:15 a.m.
                             Re: Theory on why there's mixed feelings on theseNsU Soldier 8/20/12 11:07 p.m.
                             My Theory on why there's mixed feelings on theseBeckx 8/21/12 10:23 a.m.
                                   Re: My Theory on why there's mixed feelings on theNotTheVacuum 8/21/12 11:36 a.m.
           Another way to look at it...thebruce0 8/16/12 8:29 a.m.
                 Re: Another way to look at it...Quirel 8/16/12 9:28 a.m.
                       Re: Another way to look at it...thebruce0 8/17/12 9:25 a.m.
                 Re: Another way to look at it...Nikko B201 8/16/12 10:12 a.m.
                       Re: Another way to look at it...NotTheVacuum 8/16/12 10:36 a.m.
                             Re: Another way to look at it...thebruce0 8/17/12 9:27 a.m.
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                 Re: 8/15 Bulletin is up!Mr Daax 8/15/12 11:08 p.m.
                       The same way GUNGNIR does it? *NM*ZackDark 8/16/12 10:53 a.m.
                             Re: The same way GUNGNIR does it?NotTheVacuum 8/16/12 12:47 p.m.
           Re: 8/15 Bulletin is up!serpx 8/15/12 11:34 p.m.
                 Supporting linksserpx 8/15/12 11:47 p.m.
                       I lol'dLurono 8/18/12 4:45 a.m.
           Re: 8/15 Bulletin is up!Joony Joon 8/15/12 11:57 p.m.
     IGN article confirmedAvateur 8/16/12 12:06 a.m.
           Re: IGN article confirmedGrimBrother One 8/16/12 7:05 a.m.
                 Re: IGN article confirmedAvateur 8/16/12 8:17 p.m.
           Re: IGN article confirmedBryan Newman 8/16/12 7:31 a.m.
                 Re: IGN article confirmedAvateur 8/16/12 8:35 p.m.
                       Re: IGN article confirmedNotTheVacuum 8/16/12 9:24 p.m.
                             Re: IGN article confirmedAvateur 8/16/12 9:34 p.m.
                                   Re: IGN article confirmedNotTheVacuum 8/16/12 9:40 p.m.
                                         Re: IGN article confirmedAvateur 8/16/12 9:41 p.m.
                                               Re: IGN article confirmednotthevacuum 8/17/12 6:17 a.m.
                                         Re: IGN article confirmedCaneCutter 8/17/12 9:49 a.m.
                                               My understanding as well *NM*Lurono 8/18/12 5:00 a.m.
                       Re: IGN article confirmedBryan Newman 8/17/12 5:02 a.m.
                       Re: IGN article confirmedLurono 8/18/12 4:57 a.m.
                 Re: IGN article confirmedGeneral Vagueness 8/18/12 2:49 p.m.
           Re: IGN article confirmedRedRust 8/22/12 8:47 a.m.
     Rubbish.kapowaz 8/22/12 6:52 a.m.
           Re: Rubbish.NotTheVacuum 8/22/12 7:56 a.m.
           I couldn't agree more. *NM*Hyokin 8/22/12 10:30 a.m.
           Re: Rubbish.Archilen 8/22/12 3:34 p.m.
                 Precisely.Azo 'Galvat 8/22/12 4:11 p.m.
                       Re: Precisely.kapowaz 8/23/12 1:59 a.m.
           More Reach concepts.Gravemind 8/22/12 5:26 p.m.
                 Wish it made it in reach.zoojoo 8/22/12 5:34 p.m.
                 Re: More Reach concepts.Archilen 8/23/12 5:36 a.m.
                       Re: More Reach concepts.Gravemind 8/23/12 6:16 p.m.
                             Re: More Reach concepts.kapowaz 8/24/12 3:16 a.m.
                                   Re: More Reach concepts.Quirel 8/24/12 9:03 a.m.
                                         Re: More Reach concepts.Archilen 8/24/12 9:58 a.m.
           Re: Rubbish.Quirel 8/22/12 9:28 p.m.



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