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Re: I've got the answers...
Posted By: RC MasterDate: 8/14/12 8:34 p.m.

In Response To: Re: I've got the answers... (NotTheVacuum)


: But if you applied the Halo 3 health system, it's not as important. If health
: (or perhaps stamina, whatever) is regenerative on a relatively short
: scale, it's less important to know how much you have.

What is a 'relatively short scale'?

IIRC, Halo 3's health regenerated in about 15 seconds from last damage. Shields regenerated in about 5 or something seconds. That means you can get into two additional fights (just about) with full or partially regenerated shields, but still hurting from the first encounter.

And here's the thing: PLAYERS HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THAT.

This fact, coupled with bleedthrough, is what made Halo 3 AR-on-AR battles so god awful.

If 'relatively short' is in the same time or shorter than the shield recharge, then I don't see the harm in just giving players a simple HUD element anyway - so they are informed on status and mechanics. Please, tell why it's a bad idea. I really, really want to know.

And if it recharges just as fast as shields, and/or is minuscule relative to your shield strength and bleeds-through, then what exactly is the point in having a dual health system anyway? Just make it one bar so it's completely transparent.

: One correction: Banshee health is regenerative. But aside from that, vehicle
: appearance gives indication as to its disrepair.

LOL. Your own words refute your argument. ALL vehicle health recharges in blocks, similar to how spartan health works but on longer timescales. I've never timed it out exactly.

Do you not see? You can't possibly support this invisible health system because that very system means you have no freakin' clue how it even works!

The vehicle appearance indication is clearly and blatantly insufficiently communicative. I said that during the Beta (2 years ago) and I still say it after extensive experience with the release game.

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Grenade IndicatorsAndz 8/13/12 10:21 a.m.
     Re: Grenade IndicatorsiForge 8/13/12 10:44 a.m.
     In Pro mode there are no indicators *NM*RC Master 8/13/12 10:52 a.m.
           Make that "Hardcore Mode" lol *NM*iForge 8/13/12 11:06 a.m.
     Re: Grenade IndicatorsNotTheVacuum 8/13/12 11:03 a.m.
           Why I'm madAndz 8/14/12 4:39 p.m.
                 Why you should calm downJooms 8/14/12 6:08 p.m.
                       Re: Why you should calm downuberfoop 8/14/12 7:58 p.m.
                 Re: Why I'm madRC Master 8/14/12 8:02 p.m.
     I've got the answers...Bryan Newman 8/13/12 11:11 a.m.
           Re: I've got the answers...ZackDark 8/13/12 11:27 a.m.
           Re: I've got the answers...Phoenix_9286 8/13/12 12:44 p.m.
                 Re: I've got the answers...NotTheVacuum 8/13/12 1:44 p.m.
                       Re: I've got the answers...Phoenix_9286 8/13/12 2:17 p.m.
                             Re: I've got the answers...NotTheVacuum 8/13/12 2:28 p.m.
                                   Re: I've got the answers...Jooms 8/13/12 2:50 p.m.
                                   Re: I've got the answers...General Vagueness 8/13/12 4:31 p.m.
                                   Re: I've got the answers...Gravemind 8/13/12 6:36 p.m.
                                         Re: I've got the answers...NotTheVacuum 8/14/12 8:46 a.m.
                                               Re: I've got the answers...uberfoop 8/14/12 9:33 a.m.
                                                     Re: I've got the answers...NotTheVacuum 8/14/12 9:39 a.m.
                                                           Re: I've got the answers...General Vagueness 8/14/12 1:26 p.m.
                                                           Re: I've got the answers...uberfoop 8/14/12 7:55 p.m.
                                                           Re: I've got the answers...RC Master 8/14/12 8:34 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I've got the answers...NotTheVacuum 8/15/12 8:44 a.m.
                                                                       Re: I've got the answers...General Vagueness 8/15/12 6:38 p.m.
                                                                             Re: I've got the answers...notthevacuum 8/15/12 8:19 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: I've got the answers...RC Master 8/15/12 9:16 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: I've got the answers...General Vagueness 8/16/12 1:29 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: I've got the answers...NotTheVacuum 8/16/12 10:30 a.m.
                                         Re: I've got the answers...General Vagueness 8/14/12 1:19 p.m.
                             "It's a game, it doesn't have to make sense."thebruce0 8/15/12 8:56 a.m.
                                   Re: "It's a game, it doesn't have to make sense."Phoenix_9286 8/15/12 3:26 p.m.
                       Re: I've got the answers...General Vagueness 8/13/12 4:23 p.m.
           Re: I've got the answers...stabbim 8/14/12 6:52 p.m.
     Go nuts with it 343i.uberfoop 8/13/12 8:06 p.m.



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