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Re: Purple and pink are long time Bungie game colo
Posted By: General Vagueness <General.Vagueness@gmail.com>Date: 7/4/12 6:28 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Purple and pink are long time Bungie game colo (Cody Miller)


: And this is phenomenally idiotic in so many ways. The idea of 'only examining
: the work itself' is ludicrous! How are you supposed to determine how good
: a book or piece of text is without comparing it to other books or texts?!
: To examine only the work itself would make determining the quality
: impossible (and therefore make criticism itself impossible)!

I think you might be oversimplifying (again), no one said anything about not comparing it to other works, just not taking authorial intent into account.

: Further, the message, and even the aesthetics that an artist tries to convey
: can also only be understood in the social context of where that message is
: coming from! Without such context there can BE no message; without such
: context there can BE no aesthetics.

I would agree with you here, I agree on taking intent into account, but sometimes there is no message.

: That's tough shit for Ratatouille, and just because you don't want the
: artist's feelings hurt is no excuse to use a paradigm that prohibits any
: real examination of a work and makes everybody worse off.

I don't think the whole "dead author" thing was supposed to be literal-- works with live authors have been given this treatment plenty, regardless of their feelings.

You cannot fall off the floor.



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     Purple and pink are long time Bungie game colorsFlynn J Taggart 7/2/12 2:18 a.m.
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