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Re: Purple and pink are long time Bungie game colo
Posted By: Cody MillerDate: 7/2/12 2:56 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Purple and pink are long time Bungie game colo (General Battuta)


: Totally fair. The death of the author
: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_the_Author) is a slightly
: counterintuitive concept in modern criticism which denies the importance
: of authorial intent or history in the interpretation of a work. The strong
: 'dead author' camp contends that the only source used in analysis of a
: work should be the work itself - this can be taken to ridiculous extremes,
: but I think it's often valuable. The creator often doesn't fully apprehend
: what their work may be saying. A great example is Pixar's Ratatouille,
: which is a fantastically crafted paean to the value of passion and
: artistic genius, but which contains - doubtless without any intent
: whatsoever - readings that include some utterly appalling messages about
: women.

And this is phenomenally idiotic in so many ways. The idea of 'only examining the work itself' is ludicrous! How are you supposed to determine how good a book or piece of text is without comparing it to other books or texts?! To examine only the work itself would make determining the quality impossible (and therefore make criticism itself impossible)!

Further, the message, and even the aesthetics that an artist tries to convey can also only be understood in the social context of where that message is coming from! Without such context there can BE no message; without such context there can BE no aesthetics.

That's tough shit for Ratatouille, and just because you don't want the artist's feelings hurt is no excuse to use a paradigm that prohibits any real examination of a work and makes everybody worse off.


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     Purple and pink are long time Bungie game colorsFlynn J Taggart 7/2/12 2:18 a.m.
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