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Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | |
Posted By: Count Zero <countzero@bungie.org> | Date: 11/18/04 2:50 p.m. |
In Response To: Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L (guy who doesn't post....too often) : What?! The sniper, RL, shotgun, and even some of the plasma weapons were all
: You think the top Halo players in the world were "one-trick
I will admit that I haven't actually played most of the population of MLG, but I will stand by my claim that the pistol is overpowered, overused, and a flaw in the game. I have talked to several of the Bungie guys and they have said similar things. Halo 2 has been out for a week. I'm just as interested as you in seeing how its career compares to Halo 1, but I'm much more optimistic about it. I think the the mass migration of players from XBC to Halo 2 that later posts in the thread are bemoaning is telling, but we'll see what happens in a few months. : Translation: Now, anybody can win. Slayer is the game that drives
I disagree. Slayer may be the game that tournaments use, but team play (or FFA oddball or hill) is much more fun when it's just you and a bunch of friends. Perhaps the real problem is that those two worlds are steadily drawing apart, and it's becoming harder and harder for a game to be fun for both categories. : You don't sound like you read anything past the first post; but even if you
I have now read every single post in the thread, and my appraisal is about the same as before- people are disappointed by the *fact* that change happened more than anything else, and they are voicing their initial dismay that they can no longer drop into a game and get three times the score of everyone else combined. This is an entire new game, not an expansion pack (like some people say they wanted- I and a lot of others didn't); the rules have changed and the old optimal strategies are not as effective. I honestly believe that most people who take the time to play Halo 2 extensively, perhaps not doing as well as they were used to from Halo 1 but getting enough experience to know the maps and weapons, would discover that it can be as much fun as Halo 1 even without 3-shot pistol kills and 50-3 FFA Slayer. |
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Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. LINK | guy who doesn't post....too often | 11/18/04 1:15 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | thunderhawk555 | 11/18/04 1:30 p.m. |
Don't Hijack the thread, thunder. *NM* | guy who doesn't post....too often | 11/18/04 1:33 p.m. |
Re: You mean BOARD the thread. | thunderhawk555 | 11/18/04 1:44 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Count Zero | 11/18/04 1:51 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | thunderhawk555 | 11/18/04 2:03 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Druff | 11/18/04 2:26 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | faintstalker21 | 12/14/04 10:51 a.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | guy who doesn't post....too often | 11/18/04 2:05 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Louis Wu | 11/18/04 2:29 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | jayWHY | 11/18/04 3:01 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | MikeMan445 | 11/18/04 6:44 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | rapture | 11/18/04 7:22 p.m. |
Your point? | MikeMan445 | 11/19/04 5:21 a.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Pico | 11/18/04 4:25 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Count Zero | 11/18/04 2:50 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Gran Calc | 11/19/04 4:46 p.m. |
Teamwork | Clefton Twain | 11/18/04 2:35 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Achronos | 11/18/04 8:46 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | jayWHY | 11/18/04 2:28 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Clefton Twain | 11/18/04 2:42 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | AfroRyan | 11/18/04 3:38 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | MSN | 11/18/04 3:38 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Louis Wu | 11/18/04 5:43 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Yayap the grunt | 11/18/04 5:58 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | The Covenant | 11/18/04 6:27 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | ViolentlyHappy | 11/19/04 5:51 p.m. |
/me highfives Louis Wu *NM* | retsamolah | 11/18/04 6:25 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | ViolentlyHappy | 11/19/04 5:50 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/18/04 8:02 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | goatrope | 11/18/04 11:14 p.m. |
If so... | Chester the Destroyer | 11/19/04 4:07 p.m. |
/shameless act of self promotion. | Chester the Destroyer | 11/19/04 4:10 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | MSN | 11/18/04 3:31 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | guy who doesn't post....too often | 11/18/04 3:53 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | MSN | 11/18/04 3:56 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | guy who doesn't post....too often | 11/18/04 3:59 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Achronos | 11/18/04 9:13 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Anim8rJB | 11/19/04 3:19 a.m. |
Achronos' post is the winner | Miguel Chavez | 11/19/04 11:35 a.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | ViolentlyHappy | 11/19/04 6:02 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | nof | 11/18/04 5:07 p.m. |
sounds that way | FrogBlast | 11/18/04 5:20 p.m. |
Bingo. *NM* | MikeMan445 | 11/18/04 6:50 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | deanero | 11/18/04 5:11 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | retsamolah | 11/18/04 6:50 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Strangepurple | 11/18/04 11:26 p.m. |
What the... | MikeMan445 | 11/19/04 3:29 a.m. |
Re: What the... | Strangepurple | 11/19/04 1:35 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/19/04 8:53 a.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Louis Wu | 11/19/04 9:24 a.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/19/04 9:41 a.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Strangepurple | 11/19/04 1:42 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Strangepurple | 11/19/04 2:09 p.m. |
Bah. *Long* | Yayap the grunt | 11/18/04 3:33 p.m. |
One Correction | DiscipleN2k | 11/18/04 4:16 p.m. |
Re: One Correction | Gran Calc | 11/19/04 5:00 p.m. |
Re: Bah. *Long* | jayWHY | 11/18/04 4:50 p.m. |
Re: Bah. *Long* | Yayap the grunt | 11/18/04 5:28 p.m. |
Re: Bah. *Long* | Louis Wu | 11/18/04 5:48 p.m. |
Re: Bah. *Long* | MSN | 11/18/04 5:57 p.m. |
Re: Bah. *Long* | deanero | 11/18/04 6:21 p.m. |
Re: Bah. *Long* | Ross Mills [subnova] | 11/19/04 5:48 a.m. |
Re: Bah. *Long* | MSN | 11/19/04 12:20 p.m. |
Agreed, Mr. Wu.... | Mushroom Samba | 11/18/04 7:16 p.m. |
Re: Agreed, Mr. Wu.... | Achronos | 11/18/04 9:21 p.m. |
Re: Agreed, Mr. Wu.... | Some guy... | 11/18/04 10:26 p.m. |
Re: Agreed, Mr. Wu.... | Smeeisqualityfoo | 11/18/04 10:47 p.m. |
Re: Agreed, Mr. Wu.... | Ross Mills [subnova] | 11/19/04 5:52 a.m. |
Re: Agreed, Mr. Wu.... | Achronos | 11/19/04 12:43 p.m. |
Another Grenade Trick | Assassin-B | 11/19/04 8:56 a.m. |
Re: Agreed, Mr. Wu.... | StickFigureNinja | 11/19/04 10:38 a.m. |
Louis...? | Ross Mills [subnova] | 11/19/04 10:51 a.m. |
Re: Louis...? | Miguel Chavez | 11/19/04 11:34 a.m. |
Re: Louis...? | Louis Wu | 11/19/04 11:34 a.m. |
Re: Louis...? *NM* | Slothboy | 11/19/04 12:02 p.m. |
Re: Louis...? | Slothboy | 11/19/04 12:04 p.m. |
Re: Bah. *Long* | bigboy7791 | 11/19/04 12:55 p.m. |
Let Little Joshy Have his Say!!!!! | La Voz del Noobo | 11/19/04 7:20 p.m. |
............... | nof | 11/18/04 4:48 p.m. |
Re: ............... | jayWHY | 11/18/04 5:11 p.m. |
Re: ............... | deanero | 11/18/04 5:18 p.m. |
Re: ............... | jayWHY | 11/18/04 5:41 p.m. |
Re: ............... | deanero | 11/18/04 6:13 p.m. |
Re: ............... | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/18/04 8:32 p.m. |
steve is a funny guy *NM* | FrogBlast | 11/18/04 8:47 p.m. |
Thank you... I'll be here all week. *NM* | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 11/19/04 8:17 a.m. |
Re: ............... | Achronos | 11/18/04 9:25 p.m. |
I stopped reading.... | JakeDaGreat | 11/18/04 9:58 p.m. |
Nothing has changed, I still get owned | Wado SG | 11/18/04 5:28 p.m. |
Re: Nothing has changed, I still get owned | Hawk7886 | 11/18/04 6:33 p.m. |
Re: That's what I see too... | Dan Chosich | 11/18/04 6:32 p.m. |
The ignorance is staggering. | MikeMan445 | 11/18/04 6:35 p.m. |
well said ;) *NM* | retsamolah | 11/18/04 6:57 p.m. |
well said ;) | Verdafolio | 11/18/04 7:00 p.m. |
:( ??? | retsamolah | 11/18/04 10:55 p.m. |
Re: :( ??? | Salandarin | 11/18/04 11:12 p.m. |
Re: :( ??? | Sep7imus [subnova] | 11/19/04 8:18 a.m. |
Re: :( ??? | Gran Calc | 11/19/04 5:21 p.m. |
don't let the door hit on on the way out! *NM* | nof | 11/18/04 7:01 p.m. |
*applauds* *NM* | Druff | 11/18/04 7:04 p.m. |
Re: The ignorance is staggering. | Yayap the grunt | 11/18/04 7:05 p.m. |
Stupidity. | Chester the Destroyer | 11/18/04 7:32 p.m. |
Re: Stupidity.<-- He has THE point, and I agree | Max Power (aka- dewbe) | 11/18/04 11:08 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | DaNoob | 11/18/04 10:20 p.m. |
Don't be mad about a new learning curve. | Mr_McMurder | 11/18/04 10:53 p.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | MikeMan445 | 11/19/04 5:28 a.m. |
The n00b's Lament (Long-ish) | TheDrinkNinja | 11/18/04 10:46 p.m. |
Re: The n00b's Lament (Long-ish) | Plank | 11/18/04 11:21 p.m. |
Re: The n00b's Lament (Long-ish) | TheDrinkNinja | 11/18/04 11:25 p.m. |
Let Op! YoohooNinja! Ephorate pwns!111!11!1hax *NM* | Syracuse022 | 11/19/04 10:37 a.m. |
Re: The n00b's Lament (Long-ish) | Gran Calc | 11/19/04 6:34 p.m. |
Re: Excellent post. | ThorsHammer | 11/19/04 12:28 a.m. |
That was also an excellent post. | Salandarin | 11/19/04 10:55 a.m. |
Re: Upset with Halo2 gameplay? You're not alone. L | Admiral Death (formerly Death Box) | 11/19/04 9:37 a.m. |
Upset with This Thread? You're not alone. | meleeman | 11/19/04 9:38 a.m. |
So...basically this guy wants the pistol back... *NM* | Mr Yun | 11/19/04 9:42 a.m. |
It's simple... *long* <- haha, contradictory! | Slothboy | 11/19/04 12:00 p.m. |
Dinosaurs will die. | ajenteks | 11/19/04 3:34 p.m. |
Xbox Live is Halo 1's ruin. | madcowjim | 11/19/04 3:57 p.m. |
Re: Xbox Live is Halo 1's ruin. | MikeMan445 | 11/19/04 7:56 p.m. |
Re: Xbox Live is Halo 1's ruin. | Iced_Eagle | 11/20/04 12:10 a.m. |
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