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Re: Updaters needed
Posted By: Gravemind <kuukan_no_kage@yahoo.com>Date: 11/28/11 3:29 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Updaters needed (Frankie)


: Wow. I guess everyone needs a hobby, huh?

: Cody, here's a statement that will help you contextualize your collection:
: Canonical inconsistencies have been and will be introduced to the very
: large and complex Halo universe. These are a combination of human error,
: deliberate but necessary decisions, design choices and path corrections.

I don't have a problem with the terminals per se. They may or may not cause some minor canonical issues, but those can probably be explained away fairly easily. What I have a problem with are egregious, large-scale retcons like those presented in Halo: Reach. Throwing out the last third of TFoR was neither an error nor was it a necessary decision. It was deliberate but totally unneeded. Of course, that was Bungie's doing, not you guys, and that brings me to:

: We will do our best to eliminate and reduce the number and scale of
: inconsistencies to the best of our ability. We will do this to make the
: story and universe more coherent and cohesive, while enabling our staff to
: continue to expand the game series and its ancillary and connected
: products.

: We will endeavor to make every new Halo story serve a purpose that feeds
: directly into the mainline series, and create connections and resonance
: that many fans will enjoy.

: We will endeavor to fix or mask prior inconsistencies for the sake of clarity
: and symmetry. Some will be left alone, because fixing would make it worse,
: not better.

I really do appreciate how you guys are trying to to reconcile the expanded universe with the events of Halo: Reach. For a minute there, I though 343i was simply going to ignore the events of Reach, though I was quickly proven wrong (I still think that should've been the route 343i took; would've made things easier for you). You guys have your work cut out for you (Halo: Reach and TFoR are mutually incompatible in many ways), but at least you're trying to make things consistent. Considering 343i's attitude towards these matters, would it be safe to assume that there won't ever again be a retcon as massive as the one Bungie introduced in Halo: Reach?

I also appreciate how 343i is endeavoring to have the expanded universe and the games to have more overlap. Bungie always treated the games and the novels as separate but equal, both types of media being canon but having little to no overlap except in the most general ways. I look forward to seeing some actual connectedness between the Reclaimer trilogy of games and the Traviss and Bear novels.

Oh. BTW, is the whole thing with the fifth and sixth terminals be explained in further detail? That had me very intrigued.

: The Anniversary terminals are canon, whether you like it or not. Your claim
: that they are not is incorrect. You should adjust the name of your site to
: "idontlikethiscanon" or similar.

: This statement is factually correct and arguing with it is futile. Please
: embroider it on some fabric in bright colors and hang in living room.

TV Tropes would like to have a word with you. :p

The Dark Sangheili



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Updaters neededCody Miller 11/19/11 9:17 p.m.
     Re: Updaters neededIbeechu 11/19/11 9:50 p.m.
     Re: Updaters neededdavidfuchs 11/19/11 9:50 p.m.
           Re: Updaters neededFrankie 11/28/11 11:09 a.m.
                 Re: Updaters neededOverdoziz 11/28/11 11:39 a.m.
                 This.TCKaos 11/28/11 12:21 p.m.
                       Re: This.General Vagueness 11/28/11 12:46 p.m.
                             ActuallyBry 11/28/11 2:12 p.m.
                                   Re: ActuallyGeneral Vagueness 11/28/11 8:36 p.m.
                                         Re: ActuallyBry 11/29/11 2:54 a.m.
                                               Re: ActuallyLeviathan 11/29/11 11:07 a.m.
                                                     Re: ActuallyBry 11/29/11 11:51 a.m.
                                                           Re: ActuallyArchilen 11/29/11 11:56 a.m.
                                                                 Re: ActuallyBry 11/29/11 12:20 p.m.
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                                                                                   Re: On my radar *pic*Hedgemony 11/29/11 4:05 p.m.
                                                                                         I'm with him...bluerunner 11/29/11 4:16 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: I'm with him...Hyokin 11/29/11 6:26 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: I'm with him...Quirel 11/29/11 8:15 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: ActuallyLeviathan 11/29/11 5:35 p.m.
                                                                             Re: ActuallyBry 11/29/11 4:53 p.m.
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                                                                                   Re: ActuallySonofMacPhisto 11/30/11 3:16 a.m.
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                                                                                               Re: ActuallySonofMacPhisto 11/30/11 12:53 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: ActuallyLeviathan 11/30/11 1:22 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: ActuallyQuirel 11/30/11 10:50 p.m.
                                                           Re: ActuallyLeviathan 11/29/11 1:59 p.m.
                 Re: Updaters neededGeneral Vagueness 11/28/11 12:39 p.m.
                       Re: Updaters neededOverdoziz 11/28/11 1:21 p.m.
                             Re: Updaters neededFrankie 11/28/11 1:35 p.m.
                                   Re: Updaters neededOverdoziz 11/28/11 1:41 p.m.
                                         Re: Updaters neededGeneral Vagueness 11/28/11 5:53 p.m.
                                               It's the colons, not the quotes.ncsuDuncan 11/29/11 3:48 p.m.
                                                     Re: It's the colons, not the quotes.Overdoziz 11/30/11 9:38 a.m.
                                                     Re: It's the colons, not the quotes.General Vagueness 11/30/11 1:27 p.m.
                                   Re: Updaters neededStephen L. (SoundEffect) 11/28/11 1:49 p.m.
                                         Re: Updaters neededDEEP NNN 11/28/11 2:05 p.m.
                                               Re: Updaters neededStephen L. (SoundEffect) 11/28/11 4:31 p.m.
                                         Re: Updaters neededArchilen 11/28/11 2:08 p.m.
                                   Re: Updaters neededSeraph XXVII 11/28/11 1:53 p.m.
                             Re: Updaters neededHyokin 11/28/11 1:45 p.m.
                             Re: Updaters neededArithmomaniac 11/28/11 1:58 p.m.
                                   Re: Updaters neededOverdoziz 11/28/11 2:08 p.m.
                 Smackdown! *NM*Arithmomaniac 11/28/11 1:58 p.m.
                       Re: Smackdown!Frankie 11/28/11 2:25 p.m.
                             Re: Smackdown!Arithmomaniac 11/28/11 3:06 p.m.
                 Re: Updaters neededGravemind 11/28/11 3:29 p.m.
                       Re: Updaters neededArithmomaniac 11/28/11 4:54 p.m.
                             Re: Updaters neededGravemind 11/28/11 7:08 p.m.
                 Re: Updaters neededCody Miller 11/28/11 11:50 p.m.
                       Re: Updaters neededButtskunk 11/28/11 11:55 p.m.
                             very bold of you *NM*kidtsunami 11/29/11 12:23 a.m.
                       Re: Updaters neededFrankie 11/29/11 5:01 p.m.
                             Re: Updaters neededCody Miller 11/29/11 9:20 p.m.
                 *Cheek twitches.Quirel 11/29/11 1:51 a.m.
                 Re: Updaters neededHawaiian Pig 11/29/11 2:44 a.m.
                       Re: Updaters neededpadraig08 11/29/11 8:34 a.m.
                 Re: Updaters neededkapowaz 11/30/11 4:50 a.m.
                       Re: Updaters neededLurono 11/30/11 6:31 a.m.
                             Re: Updaters neededkapowaz 11/30/11 9:06 a.m.
                                   Re: Updaters neededIbeechu 11/30/11 9:14 a.m.
                                         Re: Updaters neededArchilen 11/30/11 9:18 a.m.
                                         Re: Updaters neededGeneral Vagueness 11/30/11 1:45 p.m.
                                   Daft?Louis Wu 11/30/11 11:02 a.m.
                                         Re: Daft?kapowaz 11/30/11 11:05 a.m.
                                               Re: Daft?Louis Wu 11/30/11 11:08 a.m.
                                                     Re: Daft?Beckx 11/30/11 11:17 a.m.
                                                           Re: Daft?kapowaz 11/30/11 11:27 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Daft?Beckx 11/30/11 11:37 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Daft?kapowaz 11/30/11 11:43 a.m.
                                                     Re: Daft?Bry 11/30/11 12:12 p.m.
                                                           Re: Daft?Beckx 11/30/11 12:18 p.m.
                                               Daft, you say?Quirel 11/30/11 11:36 a.m.
                                                     Other things you didn't say, you say?kapowaz 11/30/11 11:47 a.m.
                                                     Re: Daft, you say?kapowaz 11/30/11 11:49 a.m.
                                                           You just got Punk'd! *NM*quirel 11/30/11 1:23 p.m.
                                                                 And I was all likekapowaz 11/30/11 5:41 p.m.
                       Re: Updaters neededStephen L. (SoundEffect) 11/30/11 6:57 a.m.
                             Re: Updaters neededkapowaz 11/30/11 9:08 a.m.
     Codyhasnothingbettertodo.netHyokin 11/19/11 10:53 p.m.
     Re: Updaters neededZaneZavin 11/19/11 10:54 p.m.
           Re: Updaters neededChris101b 11/20/11 1:40 a.m.
           That's a fun mental image, thankshezekiah 11/28/11 6:14 p.m.
     lol this is why we need you buddy *NM*Flynn J Taggart 11/20/11 1:27 a.m.
     Re: Updaters neededButtskunk 11/20/11 10:38 a.m.
     Re: Updaters neededTex 11/20/11 12:05 p.m.
           lol *NM*ZackDark 11/20/11 12:57 p.m.
           ColdStorageIsNotCanon.net *NM*Devil Mingy 11/21/11 7:39 p.m.



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