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Re: You wanna know my opinion?
Posted By: Leisandir <joecooperstein@hotmail.com>	Date: 2/13/11 7:57 a.m.
In Response To: Re: You wanna know my opinion? (Joony Joon) : Some might argue that it makes Halo: Reach's discrepancies that much more : tragic since they had three years on it. But it doesn't make much sense to : attribute the validity of some story details to one or two people or this : or that group when several dozen individuals over the span of a decade : have contributed to the universe as a whole on multiple artistic levels - : writers, artists, programmers all influenced it in some way. Just because : we see Joseph Staten or Eric Nylund next to a story credit doesn't mean : it's all them in any instance. We're not gonna preemptively discredit : whatever 343 does and let nostalgia cloud our judgment just because : they're not Bungie, are we? : Maybe the only objective stance we can take is that since FoR came first, : maybe it should take precedent in the canon (I'm suggesting that strictly : on the basis of the chronology, not the quality of the writing). Then, H:R : is either a partial retcon or, perhaps more leniently, just incorrect on a : few details. I think some additional writing/corrections down the road can : adequately bridge the two works. No biggie. : This type of thing happens with all kinds of serial fiction if it sticks : around long enough and it's kinda nutty to see people worked up over a few : timestamps. Given what has been released (specifically, Halsey's journal), Bungie's made an attempt to reconcile the book and the game. Guys, think about it: if they had changed nothing, then Reach would have been one level: Oh shit, it's the Covenant, defend the generators. Oh wait, we've been glassed. The modifications to the story seem big, but upon further examination are not that serious. Think about what this thread is questioning: Whether the Slipspace monitoring station detected Covenant ships on the 14th or the 30th, as depicted in the book. Recall the scene in the book: Covenant ships transition at the edge of the system, then fly millions of miles inward to Reach. Think about every single instance of Slipspace travel in the games. The only event in which the ship did not hop out right where it wanted to be was the Autumn, for two reasons: unknown destination, and human ship. Covenant ships are both faster and more accurate, and can transition exactly where they want to be. This isn't even inconsistent with the rest of the book, since the Fall of Reach is where we get the information about Covenant Slipspace technology, anyway. The actual battle of Reach is a footnote in the book. We haven't complained about changing the date of appearance for the Elites, which is much more significant to the book. If the last thirty pages of the book are not entirely accurate, so what? Most of the rest of it is intact: the training of the Spartans, first contact with the Covenant, Halsey's machinations, the creation of Cortana and the melding of her with the Chief . . . .

Message Index

August 30th or August 14th?	Asian Inferno	2/12/11 10:59 p.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	acceptable overkill	2/12/11 11:10 p.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/12/11 11:14 p.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	InnerRayg	2/13/11 5:31 a.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/11 11:35 a.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	InnerRayg	2/13/11 4:55 p.m.
My Final TFoR vs H: Reach	The Loot	2/13/11 5:05 p.m.
Re: My Final TFoR vs H: Reach	uberfoop	2/13/11 5:30 p.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	General Battuta	2/12/11 11:45 p.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	Hyokin	2/12/11 11:45 p.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	Asian Inferno	2/13/11 12:58 a.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	Bryan Newman	2/13/11 2:21 a.m.
You wanna know my opinion?	The BS Police	2/13/11 3:28 a.m.
Re: You wanna know my opinion?	Avateur	2/13/11 3:47 a.m.
Re: You wanna know my opinion?	General Battuta	2/13/11 11:17 a.m.
Re: You wanna know my opinion?	Quirel	2/13/11 9:28 p.m.
Re: You wanna know my opinion?	General Battuta	2/13/11 10:06 p.m.
Re: You wanna know my opinion?	Quirel	2/13/11 11:05 p.m.
Re: You wanna know my opinion?	The BS Police	2/13/11 1:27 p.m.
Re: You wanna know my opinion?	Leisandir	2/13/11 6:39 a.m.
Re: You wanna know my opinion?	Joony Joon	2/13/11 7:25 a.m.
Re: You wanna know my opinion?	Leisandir	2/13/11 7:57 a.m.
Re: You wanna know my opinion?	Archilen	2/13/11 9:31 a.m.
Re: You wanna know my opinion?	CINCLesotho	2/13/11 3:02 p.m.
Re: You wanna know my opinion?	Bry	2/13/11 3:11 p.m.
Re: You wanna know my opinion?	The BS Police	2/13/11 3:54 p.m.
Re: Comic book rant.	Hedgemony	2/13/11 10:15 p.m.
Re: I forgot the rant....hahaha.	Hedgemony	2/13/11 10:52 p.m.
Re: You wanna know my opinion?	Lurono	2/13/11 10:19 p.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	Urban Reflex	2/13/11 2:36 a.m.
Assault on the Stars 3	Urban Reflex	2/13/11 11:27 a.m.
Re: Assault on the Stars 3	NsU Soldier	2/13/11 11:34 a.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	Archilen	2/13/11 7:41 a.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	Leisandir	2/13/11 7:59 a.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	Asian Inferno	2/13/11 4:01 p.m.
A thought that could blow your mind...	munky-058	2/13/11 8:00 a.m.
Re: A thought that could blow your mind...	Leisandir	2/13/11 8:33 a.m.
Re: A thought that could blow your mind...	General Battuta	2/13/11 11:24 a.m.
Re: A thought that could blow your mind...	Leisandir	2/13/11 9:15 p.m.
Exactly. *short rant*	munky-058	2/13/11 10:34 p.m.
Re: Exactly. *short rant*	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/11 8:16 a.m.
Ditto *NM* *NM*	thebruce0	2/14/11 9:02 a.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	Rolandk73	2/13/11 1:02 p.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	Leisandir	2/13/11 9:19 p.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	General Vagueness	2/13/11 6:24 p.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	General Vagueness	2/13/11 6:28 p.m.
Re: August 30th or August 14th?	The Loot	2/13/11 6:56 p.m.
Ditto.	ZackDark	2/13/11 10:51 p.m.
Re: Ditto.	Asian Inferno	2/14/11 12:48 a.m.