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Why arena ranking promotes selfish play
Posted By: Cody Miller <cody@haloreachisnotcanon.net>Date: 10/5/10 4:05 p.m.


I believe that on principle, but not necessarily on a practical level, that the arena ranking system is flawed for team games in that it promotes selfish play, and penalizes players who try to help their team.

In Team slayer, the goal of the team is to maximize the K/D ratio of the entire team. In arena, the goal is to maximize your individual K/D ratio. At first glance it might seem to be the same thing, after all, a player who dies less and kills more does nothing but help his team win. There is however a very important difference, that affects the way players approach optimal play.

Maximizing the K/D ratio involves two thing: maximizing kills, and minimizing deaths. Maximizing kills turns out to work the same way in both arena and in regular team slayer. In Team slayer, helping your teammate make a kill helps increase the team's overall K/D ratio. When maximizing individual K/D ratio, this would be a wasted effort. However, since Bungie counts an assist as much as a kill, helping maximize the kills of your team as a whole also helps maximize your individual K/D ratio. So far so good.

The problem comes with minimizing deaths. In team slayer, when a teammate dies this is bad for you, and bad for the team since the team's overall K/D ratio falls. However in arena, this has no effect at all on your individual K/D ratio, since a teammate's death has no affect on that. Thus, in arena a player has no incentive to protect his teammates and keep them from dying, whereas in team slayer he does!

This is a divergence is goals! Every second you spend keeping a teammate alive and not getting an assist, is a second you waste in raising your own K/D ratio. Thus optimal play is to only worry about your own deaths, and not those of your teammates. So on principle, playing optimally in arena involves playing more selfishly than playing optimally in team slayer. Whether this manifests itself in any practical way remains to be seen.

Discuss.


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Why arena ranking promotes selfish playCody Miller 10/5/10 4:05 p.m.
     Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playRobbert014 10/5/10 4:12 p.m.
     Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playProjectD13X 10/5/10 4:18 p.m.
     Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playwolfman 10/5/10 4:20 p.m.
     Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playJonnyOThan 10/5/10 4:21 p.m.
           Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playsharpsniper99 10/5/10 5:13 p.m.
                 Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playHawaiian Pig 10/5/10 6:38 p.m.
                       Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playsharpsniper99 10/5/10 7:32 p.m.
           Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playCody Miller 10/5/10 5:35 p.m.
     Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playnash--housewares 10/5/10 4:23 p.m.
     Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playHawaiian Pig 10/5/10 4:23 p.m.
           Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playHawaiian Pig 10/5/10 4:29 p.m.
                 Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playnash--housewares 10/5/10 4:35 p.m.
                       Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playHawaiian Pig 10/5/10 4:38 p.m.
                             Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playnash--housewares 10/5/10 4:42 p.m.
                             Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playSonofMacPhisto 10/5/10 4:51 p.m.
                                   Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playnash--housewares 10/5/10 5:07 p.m.
                                         Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playSonofMacPhisto 10/5/10 5:24 p.m.
                                         Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playHawaiian Pig 10/5/10 5:49 p.m.
                                               Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playnash--housewares 10/5/10 9:08 p.m.
                 Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playCody Miller 10/5/10 5:47 p.m.
                       Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playDHalo 10/5/10 6:04 p.m.
                       Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playHawaiian Pig 10/5/10 6:30 p.m.
                       Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playJonnyOThan 10/5/10 7:01 p.m.
                             Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playRC Master 10/6/10 6:01 a.m.
                                   Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playdogcom 10/6/10 6:27 a.m.
                 Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playEiii 10/5/10 7:24 p.m.
                       Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playHawaiian Pig 10/5/10 7:33 p.m.
                             Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playCody Miller 10/5/10 7:43 p.m.
                                   Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playZaneZavin 10/5/10 8:39 p.m.
                                   Fruits of a discussion on IRCHawaiian Pig 10/5/10 10:29 p.m.
                                         ^ Everyone in this thread READ THIS POST *NM*Eiii 10/6/10 1:23 a.m.
                                         I only one wants scream NO MATH Idiocracy? *NM *NM*moicus 10/7/10 4:34 a.m.
                                         Re: Fruits of a discussion on IRCCody Miller 10/7/10 12:13 p.m.
           Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playCody Miller 10/5/10 5:34 p.m.
     Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playKalamariKidd 10/5/10 4:26 p.m.
     Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playSnave 10/5/10 4:45 p.m.
           Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playSonofMacPhisto 10/5/10 4:54 p.m.
           Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playSchooly D 10/5/10 5:05 p.m.
     Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playyakaman 10/5/10 5:08 p.m.
           Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playJonnyOThan 10/5/10 7:07 p.m.
                 Deaths?Wayward Spleen™ 10/6/10 8:27 a.m.
                       Re: Deaths?CaneCutter 10/6/10 10:25 a.m.
                       Re: Deaths?JonnyOThan 10/6/10 10:27 a.m.
                             Re: Deaths?Wayward Spleen™ 10/6/10 10:37 a.m.
     Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playfuriocity 10/5/10 7:10 p.m.
     Re: Why arena ranking promotes selfish playGeneral Vagueness 10/6/10 12:19 a.m.
     Re: Alternately, why isn't it more selfish?gspawn 10/6/10 2:37 p.m.



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