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Re: will it go round in circles
Posted By: NthDegree256 <nthdegree256@hotmail.com>Date: 6/27/02 2:24 p.m.

In Response To: Re: will it go round in circles (oldmano'theC)

: at the risk of belaboring a point: "natural" gravity is a
: consequence of the warping/bending/reshaping of spacetime by mass. other
: matter moving through this bent spacetime accelerates (can be positive or
: negative, i.e., speeding up or slowing down), and the percieved effects of
: this acceleration are what we term "gravity." the only way to
: warp spacetime enough to generate a gravity well with an acceleration of
: 1G is with a mass equivalent to that of the earth (doesn't have to be that
: size, however -- white dwarf stars & neutron stars are made of exotic
: forms of matter that pack a sh!tload of mass into a relatively small
: space).

: however, there's lots of ways to create an acceleration which would be
: perceived as "gravity." rotation is one way, but so's putting
: the pedal to the metal in your terrestrial ICE vehicle (which causes
: fractional G forces at right angles to Earth's "natural"
: gravity, and may earn you a ticket ;-} ).

: then again, use of exotic states of matter (see above) in advanced technology
: could perhaps cause a local warping of space that could be a
: "synthetic" gravity.

And maybe that's what they do. :-)

: that's always bothered me -- personally, i thinks it's a big continuity break
: on Bungie's part (perhaps even an "intentional goof"), but it
: also makes the game more playable. trying to fight in zero G would be
: incredibly fun but also incredibly disorienting. i'm willing to put up
: with a few rounded corners...

Continuity break? In what way?

: problem is, gravity isn't a field, it's a consequence of the shape of
: spacetime. near a large mass, that shape causes an acceleration toward the
: center of the mass. we call this "gravity," but it's really no
: different than the acceleration of a spaceship well outside of a massive
: object's gravitational influence. Cortana should know this...

: and the "field" may not have to be artificial -- Halo's position at
: Lagrange1, coupled with use of exotic matter in the ring structure, and
: with rotation tossed in for good measure, could do the trick without
: really invoking "new" physics, just very clever use of what is
: already known. the Forerunner(s) were clever, if nothing else.

At the very least, her phrasing implies that the gravity was deliberately created/focused/whatever, and not just a the result of a location choice.


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will it go round in circlesRoger Wilco 6/25/02 4:09 p.m.
     Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/25/02 5:52 p.m.
           Re: will it go round in circlesRoger Wilco 6/25/02 6:46 p.m.
                 Re: will it go round in circlesXcruiser 6/25/02 7:29 p.m.
                       Re: will it go round in circlesRoger Wilco 6/25/02 9:05 p.m.
           Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 8:14 p.m.
                 Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 8:48 p.m.
                       Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 9:10 p.m.
                             Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 9:16 p.m.
                                   Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 9:30 p.m.
                                         Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 9:57 p.m.
                                               Re: will it go round in circlesGrailCWB 6/27/02 10:03 p.m.
                                                     Re: will it go round in circlesLouis Wu 6/27/02 10:06 p.m.
                                               Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 10:13 p.m.
     Re: will it go round in circlesPfhoenix 6/25/02 8:46 p.m.
           Re: will it go round in circlesRoger Wilco 6/25/02 8:55 p.m.
     loving it...Miguel Chavez 6/25/02 11:59 p.m.
     Re: will it go round in circlesHaloFan 6/26/02 11:02 p.m.
           Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/26/02 11:39 p.m.
                 Re: will it go round in circlesSpeedy 6/27/02 12:04 a.m.
                       Re: will it go round in circlesSpeedy 6/27/02 12:43 a.m.
                 Re: will it go round in circlesHaloFan 6/27/02 8:50 a.m.
                       Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/27/02 1:07 p.m.
                 Re: will it go round in circlesTru7h 6/27/02 9:29 a.m.
                       Re: will it go round in circlesLouis Wu 6/27/02 9:49 a.m.
                             Re: will it go round in circlesXcruiser 6/27/02 10:44 a.m.
                             Re: will it go round in circlesTru7h 6/27/02 1:00 p.m.
                                   Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 8:55 p.m.
                                         Re: will it go round in circlesTru7h 6/27/02 9:16 p.m.
                                               corriolis rotating for dummiesTru7h 6/27/02 9:32 p.m.
                                                     Re: corriolis rotating for dummiesKnight Premier 6/27/02 10:57 p.m.
                       Re: will it go round in circlesRoger Wilco 6/27/02 12:15 p.m.
                             Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 12:54 p.m.
                                   Re: will it go round in circlesTru7h 6/27/02 1:03 p.m.
                                   Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/27/02 1:04 p.m.
                                         Re: will it go round in circlesHaloFan 6/27/02 1:10 p.m.
                                               Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/27/02 1:27 p.m.
                                                     Re: will it go round in circlesHaloFan 6/27/02 1:42 p.m.
                                                           Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/27/02 1:47 p.m.
                                         Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 1:13 p.m.
                                               Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/27/02 1:36 p.m.
                                                     Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 2:11 p.m.
                                                           Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/27/02 2:24 p.m.
                                                                 Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 3:05 p.m.
                                                                       Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/27/02 3:35 p.m.
                                                                             Re: will it go round in circlesRoger Wilco 6/27/02 4:03 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: will it go round in circlesTru7h 6/27/02 4:59 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: will it go round in circlesRoger Wilco 6/27/02 5:15 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: will it go round in circlesTru7h 6/27/02 5:09 p.m.
                                                                                         Mass IdeaGrailCWB 6/27/02 9:20 p.m.
                                                                                               whath happens when you jump?:) *NM*Tru7h 6/27/02 9:34 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Mass IdeaTru7h 6/28/02 8:45 a.m.
                                                                             Haven't found an actual statement yet, but...NthDegree256 6/27/02 4:41 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Haven't found an actual statement yet, but...Aida-kun 6/27/02 5:02 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Haven't found an actual statement yet, but...Roger Wilco 6/27/02 5:30 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Haven't found an actual statement yet, but...NthDegree256 6/27/02 11:21 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Haven't found an actual statement yet, but...Roger Wilco 6/28/02 2:00 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Haven't found an actual statement yet, but...NthDegree256 6/28/02 3:01 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Post location...Louis Wu 6/28/02 9:27 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Thank You Louis...Roger Wilco 6/28/02 12:43 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: Thank You Louis...NthDegree256 6/28/02 1:44 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: Thank You Louis...Roger Wilco 6/28/02 2:10 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Heh. :-)NthDegree256 6/28/02 2:45 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: Heh. :-)Roger Wilco 6/28/02 3:26 p.m.
                                                           Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 9:47 p.m.
                                                                 K_P... cool it.Louis Wu 6/27/02 9:54 p.m.
                                                                       Re: K_P... cool it.Knight Premier 6/27/02 10:24 p.m.
                                                                             Re: K_P... cool it.GrailCWB 6/27/02 10:30 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: K_P... cool it.Knight Premier 6/27/02 11:02 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: K_P... cool it.GrailCWB 6/27/02 11:26 p.m.
                                                                 Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 10:06 p.m.
                                                                       Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 10:52 p.m.
                                                     Sorry, butPfhoenix 6/27/02 7:13 p.m.
                                                           Re: Sorry, butRoger Wilco 6/27/02 8:06 p.m.
                                                           Re: Sorry, butNthDegree256 6/27/02 11:36 p.m.
                                               Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 9:27 p.m.
                                                     Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 9:39 p.m.
                                                     Re: will it go round in circlesLouis Wu 6/27/02 9:48 p.m.
                                                           Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 10:19 p.m.
                                                                 Re: will it go round in circlesLouis Wu 6/27/02 10:37 p.m.
                                                                       Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 11:11 p.m.
                       Re: will it go round in circlesGrailCWB 6/27/02 9:40 p.m.
                             Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 9:49 p.m.
                                   Re: will it go round in circlesGrailCWB 6/27/02 9:54 p.m.
                                         Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 10:17 p.m.
                                               Re: will it go round in circlesGrailCWB 6/27/02 10:26 p.m.
     It's love that holds it all together... *NM*Finn/Daniel 6/27/02 8:01 p.m.
     Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 8:37 p.m.
           It's right here.Louis Wu 6/27/02 9:03 p.m.
           Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 9:22 p.m.
     justa notha theory of the spinSaber 6/27/02 10:15 p.m.
           Re: justa notha theory of the spinGrailCWB 6/27/02 10:21 p.m.
           Re: justa notha theory of the spinSpeedy 6/28/02 3:40 p.m.
     Re: will it go round in circlesSpeedy 6/27/02 11:19 p.m.
     Re: will it go round in circlesTirion of *WP* 6/28/02 8:56 a.m.
     Re: will it go round in circlesMatthew Hanlon 6/28/02 10:50 a.m.



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