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Re: will it go round in circles
Posted By: oldmano'theCDate: 6/25/02 5:52 p.m.

In Response To: will it go round in circles (Roger Wilco)

: These are starting to look a bit more plausible. I rotated Halo 90 degrees.
: This is how pfhoenix was describing I think...it feels much better. Now
: Threshold and the other bodies appear in a more natural way although the
: scale is something I'm not bothering with just yet.

: A couple interesting points come up. In this configuration, all of Halo is
: either in "day" or in "night." In fact, Halo's
: "nightime" occurs as it passes behind Threshold, traveling
: through it's shadow. Are "day" and "night" the correct
: terms for this situation? Also notice that the "night" on Halo
: is significatly shorter then the "day."

: Also, there are two points in it's orbit of Threshold in which Halo becomes
: perpendicular or on-edge in relation to Soell. That is to say that the
: only part exposed to the sun is one half of the outside of the ring.
: During this moment the half closer to the sun eclipses the half farther
: out. Halo eclipses itself twice every day. What's the term for that?

: Does any of this seem plausable? I think we are on the right track here.

only one glitch -- the view from Halo in "as the world turns" always shows Basis & Threshold on the same side of the ring, whereas all views in the game show Threshold on one side & Basis on the other. this, and the orientation of the Control Room holo map, lead me to think that Halo orbits at L1. granted this is an "unstable" Lagrange point, but with constant course correction, stability could be maintained.

other details of the game views could be interpreted as supporting an L1 orbit with constant maintenance: in some levels, Threshold sits mostly above the ring horizon, in others slightly below. Basis shifts is position relative to the ring slightly in each level. these observations lead me to theorize that Halo has an automated orbital maintenance system that keeps it stable at L1, but not absolutely locked into a single position. perhaps the blue beam emissions are part of this system? there are massive circular patterns on the outside of the ring as well, which could be interpreted as arrays of "maneuvering thrusters" on a massive scale.

the L1 position would also tend to equalize gravitic stress due to differential tidal effects from both Threshold and Basis, which would be problematic for a 10K km structure positioned at either L4 or L5.


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will it go round in circlesRoger Wilco 6/25/02 4:09 p.m.
     Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/25/02 5:52 p.m.
           Re: will it go round in circlesRoger Wilco 6/25/02 6:46 p.m.
                 Re: will it go round in circlesXcruiser 6/25/02 7:29 p.m.
                       Re: will it go round in circlesRoger Wilco 6/25/02 9:05 p.m.
           Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 8:14 p.m.
                 Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 8:48 p.m.
                       Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 9:10 p.m.
                             Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 9:16 p.m.
                                   Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 9:30 p.m.
                                         Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 9:57 p.m.
                                               Re: will it go round in circlesGrailCWB 6/27/02 10:03 p.m.
                                                     Re: will it go round in circlesLouis Wu 6/27/02 10:06 p.m.
                                               Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 10:13 p.m.
     Re: will it go round in circlesPfhoenix 6/25/02 8:46 p.m.
           Re: will it go round in circlesRoger Wilco 6/25/02 8:55 p.m.
     loving it...Miguel Chavez 6/25/02 11:59 p.m.
     Re: will it go round in circlesHaloFan 6/26/02 11:02 p.m.
           Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/26/02 11:39 p.m.
                 Re: will it go round in circlesSpeedy 6/27/02 12:04 a.m.
                       Re: will it go round in circlesSpeedy 6/27/02 12:43 a.m.
                 Re: will it go round in circlesHaloFan 6/27/02 8:50 a.m.
                       Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/27/02 1:07 p.m.
                 Re: will it go round in circlesTru7h 6/27/02 9:29 a.m.
                       Re: will it go round in circlesLouis Wu 6/27/02 9:49 a.m.
                             Re: will it go round in circlesXcruiser 6/27/02 10:44 a.m.
                             Re: will it go round in circlesTru7h 6/27/02 1:00 p.m.
                                   Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 8:55 p.m.
                                         Re: will it go round in circlesTru7h 6/27/02 9:16 p.m.
                                               corriolis rotating for dummiesTru7h 6/27/02 9:32 p.m.
                                                     Re: corriolis rotating for dummiesKnight Premier 6/27/02 10:57 p.m.
                       Re: will it go round in circlesRoger Wilco 6/27/02 12:15 p.m.
                             Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 12:54 p.m.
                                   Re: will it go round in circlesTru7h 6/27/02 1:03 p.m.
                                   Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/27/02 1:04 p.m.
                                         Re: will it go round in circlesHaloFan 6/27/02 1:10 p.m.
                                               Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/27/02 1:27 p.m.
                                                     Re: will it go round in circlesHaloFan 6/27/02 1:42 p.m.
                                                           Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/27/02 1:47 p.m.
                                         Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 1:13 p.m.
                                               Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/27/02 1:36 p.m.
                                                     Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 2:11 p.m.
                                                           Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/27/02 2:24 p.m.
                                                                 Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 3:05 p.m.
                                                                       Re: will it go round in circlesNthDegree256 6/27/02 3:35 p.m.
                                                                             Re: will it go round in circlesRoger Wilco 6/27/02 4:03 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: will it go round in circlesTru7h 6/27/02 4:59 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: will it go round in circlesRoger Wilco 6/27/02 5:15 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: will it go round in circlesTru7h 6/27/02 5:09 p.m.
                                                                                         Mass IdeaGrailCWB 6/27/02 9:20 p.m.
                                                                                               whath happens when you jump?:) *NM*Tru7h 6/27/02 9:34 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Mass IdeaTru7h 6/28/02 8:45 a.m.
                                                                             Haven't found an actual statement yet, but...NthDegree256 6/27/02 4:41 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Haven't found an actual statement yet, but...Aida-kun 6/27/02 5:02 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Haven't found an actual statement yet, but...Roger Wilco 6/27/02 5:30 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Haven't found an actual statement yet, but...NthDegree256 6/27/02 11:21 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Haven't found an actual statement yet, but...Roger Wilco 6/28/02 2:00 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Haven't found an actual statement yet, but...NthDegree256 6/28/02 3:01 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Post location...Louis Wu 6/28/02 9:27 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Thank You Louis...Roger Wilco 6/28/02 12:43 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: Thank You Louis...NthDegree256 6/28/02 1:44 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: Thank You Louis...Roger Wilco 6/28/02 2:10 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Heh. :-)NthDegree256 6/28/02 2:45 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: Heh. :-)Roger Wilco 6/28/02 3:26 p.m.
                                                           Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 9:47 p.m.
                                                                 K_P... cool it.Louis Wu 6/27/02 9:54 p.m.
                                                                       Re: K_P... cool it.Knight Premier 6/27/02 10:24 p.m.
                                                                             Re: K_P... cool it.GrailCWB 6/27/02 10:30 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: K_P... cool it.Knight Premier 6/27/02 11:02 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: K_P... cool it.GrailCWB 6/27/02 11:26 p.m.
                                                                 Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 10:06 p.m.
                                                                       Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 10:52 p.m.
                                                     Sorry, butPfhoenix 6/27/02 7:13 p.m.
                                                           Re: Sorry, butRoger Wilco 6/27/02 8:06 p.m.
                                                           Re: Sorry, butNthDegree256 6/27/02 11:36 p.m.
                                               Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 9:27 p.m.
                                                     Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 9:39 p.m.
                                                     Re: will it go round in circlesLouis Wu 6/27/02 9:48 p.m.
                                                           Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 10:19 p.m.
                                                                 Re: will it go round in circlesLouis Wu 6/27/02 10:37 p.m.
                                                                       Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 11:11 p.m.
                       Re: will it go round in circlesGrailCWB 6/27/02 9:40 p.m.
                             Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 9:49 p.m.
                                   Re: will it go round in circlesGrailCWB 6/27/02 9:54 p.m.
                                         Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 10:17 p.m.
                                               Re: will it go round in circlesGrailCWB 6/27/02 10:26 p.m.
     It's love that holds it all together... *NM*Finn/Daniel 6/27/02 8:01 p.m.
     Re: will it go round in circlesKnight Premier 6/27/02 8:37 p.m.
           It's right here.Louis Wu 6/27/02 9:03 p.m.
           Re: will it go round in circlesoldmano'theC 6/27/02 9:22 p.m.
     justa notha theory of the spinSaber 6/27/02 10:15 p.m.
           Re: justa notha theory of the spinGrailCWB 6/27/02 10:21 p.m.
           Re: justa notha theory of the spinSpeedy 6/28/02 3:40 p.m.
     Re: will it go round in circlesSpeedy 6/27/02 11:19 p.m.
     Re: will it go round in circlesTirion of *WP* 6/28/02 8:56 a.m.
     Re: will it go round in circlesMatthew Hanlon 6/28/02 10:50 a.m.



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