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Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.
Posted By: Leviathan <levihoffmeier@gmail.com>Date: 5/22/12 1:40 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract. (Cody Miller)


: I get plenty out of games with stories, so don't presume please. Case in
: Point: Metal gear Solid 2.

: Interactivity kills narrative.

Oh? What are all these narratives that I'm interacting with then? Cooky.

: Aha! But final fantasy VII is a bad strategy game that uses digital stage
: plays and cinematics to tell the story. It's not that mechanics that are
: touching you, and not the interaction. (I enjoyed the story too for what
: it's worth.)

I disagree.

: This is an illusion. It only interacts with you in simple predefined ways.
: You have the illusion of real interaction. Play a REAL RPG like D&D, and
: you will see that you have ACTUAL interactivity within the story. You can
: change things however you want. In FFVII, you can only change things the
: way the game designers want you to change things. Have fun resurrecting
: Aeris! Your only MEANINGFUL interaction is what you decide to attack with,
: and when you decide to heal.

I disagree. I have played real RPGs, and they can be amazing experiences. But sometimes I don't want to be able to do everything and anything - I want the story to be meaningful and be persistent. I don't want to be able to just undo something I dislike. I just want to be wrapped within the story, interacting with it to some degree, which allows my brain to experience the story in an involved and immersed way - a different form of immersion than film can allow. Instead of someone else's experience I'm feeling, I'm literally experiencing the story myself - moving and changing things in the world.

But I'm sorry, all this nonsense. I'm getting out of these games must be a delusion because I disagree with you.

Have a nice day!

Halo: A Fistful of Arrows


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Bungie responds to Activision contract.MoltenSlowa 5/21/12 9:25 p.m.
     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Dani 5/21/12 9:31 p.m.
           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.RC Master 5/21/12 9:41 p.m.
           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Grizzlei 5/21/12 9:48 p.m.
           I was feeling the same when I read that.mneo 5/22/12 12:53 p.m.
                 Re: I was feeling the same when I read that.Beckx 5/22/12 1:03 p.m.
                       Killing two birds with one stone.mneo 5/22/12 1:21 p.m.
     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.kanbo 5/21/12 9:31 p.m.
           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.MoltenSlowa 5/21/12 9:43 p.m.
                 Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.ZackDark 5/21/12 9:45 p.m.
     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.munky-058 5/21/12 9:55 p.m.
           +1. *NM*Document 5/22/12 1:27 p.m.
     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Cody Miller 5/21/12 10:10 p.m.
           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.kanbo 5/21/12 10:15 p.m.
                 Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.scarab 5/22/12 7:07 a.m.
                       Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Cody Miller 5/22/12 11:24 a.m.
                             Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Beckx 5/22/12 11:34 a.m.
                                   Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Cody Miller 5/22/12 11:52 a.m.
                                         Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Beckx 5/22/12 12:03 p.m.
                                         Videogames can tell very effective stories.Leisandir 5/22/12 12:28 p.m.
                                               Re: Videogames can tell very effective stories.Cody Miller 5/22/12 1:18 p.m.
                                                     Re: Videogames can tell very effective stories.Leisandir 5/22/12 1:31 p.m.
                                                           Re: Videogames can tell very effective stories.Cody Miller 5/22/12 1:43 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Videogames can tell very effective stories.thebruce0 5/22/12 2:08 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Videogames can tell very effective stories.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/23/12 6:32 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Videogames can tell very effective stories.thebruce0 5/23/12 8:17 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Sounds like a big ol' case of semantics. *NM*mattroe 5/22/12 7:34 p.m.
                                                                 Hahaha . . . .Leisandir 5/22/12 8:20 p.m.
                                         Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Leviathan 5/22/12 1:05 p.m.
                                               Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Cody Miller 5/22/12 1:26 p.m.
                                                     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Leviathan 5/22/12 1:40 p.m.
                                                           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Cody Miller 5/22/12 1:47 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Leviathan 5/22/12 2:07 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/22/12 4:04 p.m.
                                                     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Leisandir 5/22/12 1:42 p.m.
                                                           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Cody Miller 5/22/12 1:50 p.m.
                                                                 I don't believe it can be simplified like thatEchoes 5/22/12 3:28 p.m.
                             Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.General Vagueness 5/22/12 2:00 p.m.
                             Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.kidtsunami 5/22/12 6:06 p.m.
                                   Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.General Vagueness 5/22/12 7:31 p.m.
                             Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.scarab 5/22/12 9:11 p.m.
                                   Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.ckamp 5/23/12 12:23 a.m.
                                         Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.scarab 5/23/12 12:45 a.m.
                                               Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.ckamp 5/23/12 3:01 a.m.
                                               Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Cody Miller 5/23/12 5:24 a.m.
           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Arithmomaniac 5/21/12 10:18 p.m.
           yikes dude, don't you ever stop bitching.Captain Spark 5/21/12 10:49 p.m.
                 Re: yikes dude, don't you ever stop bitching.Compton 5/21/12 11:51 p.m.
                       Re: yikes dude, don't you ever stop bitching.Captain Spark 5/22/12 12:07 a.m.
                       Re: yikes dude, don't you ever stop bitching.Cody Miller 5/22/12 12:54 a.m.
                 Re: yikes dude, don't you ever stop bitching.General Vagueness 5/22/12 1:16 a.m.
                 Re: yikes dude, don't you ever stop bitching.Cody Miller 5/22/12 1:19 a.m.
                       Re: yikes dude, don't you ever stop bitching.Leviathan 5/22/12 1:41 a.m.
                             ^This^stabbim 5/22/12 5:11 p.m.
                       I don't know about you . . . .Leisandir 5/22/12 9:03 a.m.
           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Grizzlei 5/22/12 12:20 a.m.
     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Enfinit 5/21/12 10:34 p.m.
     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.VAVA Mk2 5/22/12 6:08 p.m.



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