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Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.
Posted By: Cody MillerDate: 5/22/12 1:26 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract. (Leviathan)


: See... art can't be judged universally. People interpret and experience
: different things in different ways. For example, I could play your 'game'
: above and state an example. You can come back and state a book or film.
: Then I can simply disagree. What happens then? Just because you don't get
: anything out of games with stories doesn't mean that's the same for
: everyone.

I get plenty out of games with stories, so don't presume please. Case in Point: Metal gear Solid 2.

: I have read many books, seen many movies, and played many games. And there
: are things in some games that I've never experienced in any other medium
: because of its unique aspect of interactivity.

Interactivity kills narrative.

: I have read Dostoyevsky novels that have delved deeply into the phycology of
: a man and been blow away, and I've also played Final Fantasy VII whose
: story also explores the troubled psychology of an individual and again,
: been blown away.

Aha! But final fantasy VII is a bad strategy game that uses digital stage plays and cinematics to tell the story. It's not that mechanics that are touching you, and not the interaction. (I enjoyed the story too for what it's worth.)

: If you removed the 'game' from FFVII, it would have been nowhere near as
: magical, but adding that extra dimension that a game can provide, it
: becomes something more - something unique - something that a movie, book,
: or comic can't provide. You are able to move and exist within the world,
: interact with it and change it... and then it reacted to me .

This is an illusion. It only interacts with you in simple predefined ways. You have the illusion of real interaction. Play a REAL RPG like D&D, and you will see that you have ACTUAL interactivity within the story. You can change things however you want. In FFVII, you can only change things the way the game designers want you to change things. Have fun resurrecting Aeris! Your only MEANINGFUL interaction is what you decide to attack with, and when you decide to heal.


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Bungie responds to Activision contract.MoltenSlowa 5/21/12 9:25 p.m.
     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Dani 5/21/12 9:31 p.m.
           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.RC Master 5/21/12 9:41 p.m.
           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Grizzlei 5/21/12 9:48 p.m.
           I was feeling the same when I read that.mneo 5/22/12 12:53 p.m.
                 Re: I was feeling the same when I read that.Beckx 5/22/12 1:03 p.m.
                       Killing two birds with one stone.mneo 5/22/12 1:21 p.m.
     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.kanbo 5/21/12 9:31 p.m.
           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.MoltenSlowa 5/21/12 9:43 p.m.
                 Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.ZackDark 5/21/12 9:45 p.m.
     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.munky-058 5/21/12 9:55 p.m.
           +1. *NM*Document 5/22/12 1:27 p.m.
     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Cody Miller 5/21/12 10:10 p.m.
           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.kanbo 5/21/12 10:15 p.m.
                 Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.scarab 5/22/12 7:07 a.m.
                       Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Cody Miller 5/22/12 11:24 a.m.
                             Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Beckx 5/22/12 11:34 a.m.
                                   Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Cody Miller 5/22/12 11:52 a.m.
                                         Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Beckx 5/22/12 12:03 p.m.
                                         Videogames can tell very effective stories.Leisandir 5/22/12 12:28 p.m.
                                               Re: Videogames can tell very effective stories.Cody Miller 5/22/12 1:18 p.m.
                                                     Re: Videogames can tell very effective stories.Leisandir 5/22/12 1:31 p.m.
                                                           Re: Videogames can tell very effective stories.Cody Miller 5/22/12 1:43 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Videogames can tell very effective stories.thebruce0 5/22/12 2:08 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Videogames can tell very effective stories.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/23/12 6:32 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Videogames can tell very effective stories.thebruce0 5/23/12 8:17 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Sounds like a big ol' case of semantics. *NM*mattroe 5/22/12 7:34 p.m.
                                                                 Hahaha . . . .Leisandir 5/22/12 8:20 p.m.
                                         Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Leviathan 5/22/12 1:05 p.m.
                                               Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Cody Miller 5/22/12 1:26 p.m.
                                                     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Leviathan 5/22/12 1:40 p.m.
                                                           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Cody Miller 5/22/12 1:47 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Leviathan 5/22/12 2:07 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/22/12 4:04 p.m.
                                                     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Leisandir 5/22/12 1:42 p.m.
                                                           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Cody Miller 5/22/12 1:50 p.m.
                                                                 I don't believe it can be simplified like thatEchoes 5/22/12 3:28 p.m.
                             Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.General Vagueness 5/22/12 2:00 p.m.
                             Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.kidtsunami 5/22/12 6:06 p.m.
                                   Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.General Vagueness 5/22/12 7:31 p.m.
                             Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.scarab 5/22/12 9:11 p.m.
                                   Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.ckamp 5/23/12 12:23 a.m.
                                         Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.scarab 5/23/12 12:45 a.m.
                                               Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.ckamp 5/23/12 3:01 a.m.
                                               Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Cody Miller 5/23/12 5:24 a.m.
           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Arithmomaniac 5/21/12 10:18 p.m.
           yikes dude, don't you ever stop bitching.Captain Spark 5/21/12 10:49 p.m.
                 Re: yikes dude, don't you ever stop bitching.Compton 5/21/12 11:51 p.m.
                       Re: yikes dude, don't you ever stop bitching.Captain Spark 5/22/12 12:07 a.m.
                       Re: yikes dude, don't you ever stop bitching.Cody Miller 5/22/12 12:54 a.m.
                 Re: yikes dude, don't you ever stop bitching.General Vagueness 5/22/12 1:16 a.m.
                 Re: yikes dude, don't you ever stop bitching.Cody Miller 5/22/12 1:19 a.m.
                       Re: yikes dude, don't you ever stop bitching.Leviathan 5/22/12 1:41 a.m.
                             ^This^stabbim 5/22/12 5:11 p.m.
                       I don't know about you . . . .Leisandir 5/22/12 9:03 a.m.
           Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Grizzlei 5/22/12 12:20 a.m.
     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.Enfinit 5/21/12 10:34 p.m.
     Re: Bungie responds to Activision contract.VAVA Mk2 5/22/12 6:08 p.m.



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