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Re: Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor
Posted By: Quirel <I_am_quirel@hotmail.com>	Date: 11/16/11 8:03 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor (Archilen) : There's still a difference. Halsey's program had a tangible goal and it : produced tangible results, i.e. super soldiers, while all we got from Nazi : scientists was something as nebulous as research data. Yes, it's probably : benefited humanity a lot, but at least the point of the Spartan program : was to have as many subjects as possible survive, while Nazi science was : more about dissecting people in worst ways imaginable. Oh, boy, here we go. Nothing I love better than stereotyping the worst Humanity has to offer down to comic book levels. There was an element of sadism, yes. But let's look at the goals of some of those programs: -Hypothermia: Sponsored by the Luftwaffe so that they could design better protection for their pilots. The soldiers on the Eastern Front were sure to reap benefits as well. -Sulfanomide: A synthetic antibiotic that would hopefully be used to treat the soldiers on the Eastern Front, and eventually be issued to civilian hospitals. -Phosgene: The German High Command suspected that the British might use phosgene against German troops in Africa, and treatments for casualties would be needed in that event. -Malaria Immunization: Think of the potential! Hell, we're invading Africa anyway... -Phosphorus Burns: White phosphorus... as in incendiary bombs... as in those things the Allies were dropping left right and center over Germany... Hey, guess what started the Dresden Firestorm! : I'm not saying people should sympathize with her, more like begrudgingly : accept it as a necessary evil. Some of the Nazi doctors were hanged. Some of them were acquitted and found work at large corporations, to live a comfortable life in relative obscurity. Halsey ended up closer to the latter than the former. Sure, she got a lot of dirt thrown at her, and she's locked up to do ONI's dirty work, but it's better than a nine-millimeter brain hemorrhage in ONI's equivalent of Guantanamo Bay. : The fact people like Parangosky who were : there in the beginning and know the whole story suddenly decide to destroy : her for the sake of a few clones is a little too unbelievable. Parangosky : always disliked Halsey, but if she was going to sideline her or lecture : her about some clones, it should've realistically happened decades : earlier. And when did ONI become so open they're ready to spill the beans : on their own projects for normal people to see, including the Spartans? That last one I hate just as much as you. As for Parangosky, it was hinted at earlier in the book that she had a special reason for hating Halsey, one that I don't think has been sufficiently explored. Now that the War has ended with Humanity in control of several Engineers and loads of Forerunner tech, I'd say that Halsey's fate was a combination of "You have outlived your usefulness" combined with "The straw that broke the camel's back" (Halsey kidnapping Linda).

Message Index

Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor	Hyokin	11/15/11 10:17 p.m.
Re: Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor	General Vagueness	11/15/11 11:59 p.m.
Re: Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor	Hyokin	11/16/11 12:14 a.m.
Re: Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor	Quirel	11/16/11 1:18 a.m.
Re: Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor	Archilen	11/16/11 3:42 a.m.
Re: Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor	Quirel	11/16/11 11:31 a.m.
Re: Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor	Archilen	11/16/11 2:04 p.m.
Re: Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor	Louis Wu	11/16/11 4:29 p.m.
Re: Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor	General Vagueness	11/16/11 5:06 p.m.
Re: Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor	Dagoonite	11/16/11 7:31 p.m.
Re: Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor	Quirel	11/16/11 7:54 p.m.
Re: Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor	Dagoonite	11/16/11 9:31 p.m.
Re: Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor	Quirel	11/16/11 8:03 p.m.
Re: Halo: From A to Z with Frank O'Connor	scarab	11/16/11 4:49 a.m.
The tiny hints to the future :D	Sanjeev	11/16/11 5:52 a.m.
Re: The tiny hints to the future :D	scarab	11/16/11 6:01 a.m.
Re: The tiny hints to the future :D	Archilen	11/16/11 6:59 a.m.
Re: The tiny hints to the future :D	JDQuackers	11/16/11 7:07 a.m.
Re: The tiny hints to the future :D	Sanjeev	11/16/11 7:36 a.m.
Re: The tiny hints to the future :D	davidfuchs	11/16/11 8:23 a.m.
Re: The tiny hints to the future :D	JDQuackers	11/16/11 8:52 a.m.
Re: The tiny hints to the future :D	Postmortem	11/16/11 2:26 p.m.
Re: The tiny hints to the future :D	Ibeechu	11/16/11 7:14 p.m.
Re: The tiny hints to the future :D	Quirel	11/16/11 7:19 p.m.
Re: The tiny hints to the future :D	Postmortem	11/16/11 7:53 p.m.
Re: The tiny hints to the future :D	General Vagueness	11/16/11 9:58 p.m.
OMG ITS UNICRON!!!!!! CALLING IT NOW. *NM*	Revenant1988	11/16/11 10:38 a.m.
Curious, re ILB canon	thebruce0	11/16/11 8:43 a.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	SirPwn4g3	11/16/11 8:54 a.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	davidfuchs	11/16/11 10:06 a.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	thebruce0	11/16/11 10:22 a.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	davidfuchs	11/16/11 10:43 a.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	thebruce0	11/16/11 10:55 a.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	Quirel	11/16/11 10:56 a.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	thebruce0	11/16/11 11:32 a.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	General Vagueness	11/16/11 5:03 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	Dagoonite	11/16/11 7:37 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	General Vagueness	11/16/11 10:21 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	thebruce0	11/17/11 10:07 a.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	The Loot	11/17/11 6:44 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	thebruce0	11/19/11 5:55 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	Dragonclaws	11/19/11 7:14 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	thebruce0	11/19/11 9:42 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	thebruce0	11/17/11 9:23 a.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	General Vagueness	11/21/11 3:43 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	Dragonclaws	11/21/11 9:08 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	thebruce0	11/22/11 8:52 a.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	General Vagueness	11/22/11 7:36 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	thebruce0	11/23/11 8:48 a.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	General Vagueness	11/28/11 11:29 a.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	thebruce0	11/28/11 1:45 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	The Loot	11/21/11 9:38 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	Dragonclaws	11/19/11 7:24 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	11/19/11 10:40 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	davidfuchs	11/19/11 11:51 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	thebruce0	11/20/11 10:41 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	The Loot	11/20/11 11:31 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	thebruce0	11/21/11 9:08 a.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	Dragonclaws	11/21/11 1:05 p.m.
Re: Curious, re ILB canon	thebruce0	11/28/11 9:46 a.m.
Great vid! Thanks, Frank!	The Lionheart	11/16/11 11:37 a.m.
LOL@comment: Wtf, this guy ain't Steve Austin! =D *NM*	cardo 8 atl	11/16/11 2:35 p.m.