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Re: Why PCDestroyer is NOT a mental midget
Posted By: protexts <protexts@cs.com>	Date: 4/19/02 5:38 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Why PCDestroyer is NOT a mental midget (PCDestroyer) Blah, blah, blah, OK, finally your point --> : SO... in conclusion... Microsoft knows this... Microsoft did not put an : effort in to develop and release both at the same time, because that would : not have sold XBoxes. XBoxes cost more to make than they get back from : selling one... so they need to sell GAMES... and to sell games... someone : must own the system the games are for in order to buy said games. To get : such systems into a persons hands... you need a good reason... and a : Million selling hit game launch title... is damn good "bait." : Said "bait" does not work if there is an alternative which others : prefer. : Tell me... how many people with Macs and PCs would have bought a Halo copy : with XBox that couldn't be played online.... instead of a Mac/PC version : that allows you to face off against people on a nightly instead of weekly : basis (i.e. 16 talented players at a time... not yer kid sister because : she's the only one home and with big enough hands to hold a : controller...)??? << You are just restating your old, tired argument. Again, this idea of market defined by the PC/Mac user held hostage by Microsoft is flat out ridiculous. It's YOUR fantasy -- probably a projection of YOUR circumstances so that it makes sense to YOU. And don't you think that, from a word of mouth advertising perspective that, in order to boost the sales of the PC version (which should bring in more than chump change), you would want the PC version to come out while the buzz is just dying out about Halo, so that Joe down the street, when he wanders into the local mall goes, "yesssss!" and coughs up some money. Well, that's possibily too bad for Microsoft, because Bungie is possibily still working on the PC version of it. : That is the point being made... that point is correct as far as can be : seen... As seen by who? You? Your buddy? and regardless of the "release date" for Halo on : Mac/PC... it is true. Says who? It certainly doesn't follow that its true from your argument. Because I and others like me... would not have : bought an XBox or Halo when we already have a $2500 gaming machine at home : to play it on worldwide. It's back to your personal circumstances. This is what's called a weak inductive argument, generalizing from a small sample of PCDestroyer and pals to a very large population (a market in this case). Note: I don't want you to have to read this 2x like you did last time, so I better give you a gloss on what induction is. Induction is a reasoning process where you make some observations about some phenomenon and make a conclusion about that phenomenon based on the pattern in the observations. For example, if you notice a lot of wasps around your house over a period of several days, you might come to the inductive conclusion that there is a wasp nest around your house somewhere, even though you cannot see the actual wasp nest. This would be a relatively strong inductive conclusion (but not a proof by any means). A weak inductive conclusion would be, for example, to see only ONE WASP on only one day and conclude based on that that there was a wasp nest around your house. I believe you are doing the same thing. Just substitute your observations of the people interested in Halo for the "observations of the wasps", and your market of Xbox consumers as the "nest." : END OF STORY... : Reply all you want... I've stated my point and used examples of your own : conjectures to show you at least half believe in it. They weren't conjectures; they were statements. That word is reserved for what you're doing, conjecturing... wildly I might add. At anyrate, you misunderstood. My statement was too telegraphic. That Microsoft wants to milk every dollar out of Xbox does not mean they sat down at a table with a list of names such as PCDestroyer and whatshisname69 to see how they could milk your personal dollar from you. No, that list is under their radar screen. They are interested in markets. Big things. Large groups of people who collectively represent large amount of money to be made. What milking every dollar means is to do things like obtain the rights to Halo, sell Halo at a high price, take out advertisement space, hype it up, get it to the people who review it, flaunt it, in general pimp the game so they can maximize their investment.

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Big News!! - DirectX for Macintosh!	Miguel Chavez	4/17/02 11:19 a.m.
Yeah... Kinda	Mr. Zarquon	4/17/02 11:56 a.m.
Geez... why the negative spin?	ferrex	4/17/02 1:03 p.m.
Because, I am.	Mr. Zarquon	4/17/02 1:10 p.m.
Re: Geez... why the negative spin?	Kanen Faud'r	4/17/02 1:26 p.m.
Re: Geez... why the negative spin?	PCDestroyer	4/17/02 2:32 p.m.
Re: Geez... why the negative spin?	Mark Levin	4/17/02 3:07 p.m.
Carmack...	Miguel Chavez	4/17/02 3:22 p.m.
Re: Carmack...	ferrex	4/17/02 7:08 p.m.
Re: Carmack...	Mr. Zarquon	4/17/02 9:31 p.m.
Re: Geez... why the negative spin?	PCDestroyer	4/17/02 3:45 p.m.
Re: Geez... why the negative spin?	ferrex	4/17/02 7:02 p.m.
Re: Geez... why the negative spin?	PCDestroyer	4/18/02 9:57 a.m.
Why PCDestroyer is a mental midget LONGGGGGG	protexts	4/18/02 4:46 a.m.
Re: Why PCDestroyer is a mental midget LONGGGGGG	PCDestroyer	4/18/02 10:11 a.m.
Re: Why PCDestroyer is off	protexts	4/18/02 2:11 p.m.
Make a 1AC!	123456789	4/19/02 11:47 a.m.
Why PCDestroyer is NOT a mental midget	kiro69	4/18/02 11:19 a.m.
Re: Speak for yourself there, parnter...	Lophan	4/18/02 12:09 p.m.
Re: Why PCDestroyer is NOT a mental midget	protexts	4/18/02 2:30 p.m.
Re: Why PCDestroyer is NOT a mental midget	PCDestroyer	4/18/02 4:37 p.m.
The place where your whole argument falls down...	Louis Wu	4/18/02 4:54 p.m.
Re: The place where your whole argument falls down	PCDestroyer	4/18/02 5:04 p.m.
Ack.	Louis Wu	4/18/02 5:16 p.m.
Re: Ack.	PCDestroyer	4/18/02 5:45 p.m.
Re: Ack.	protexts	4/18/02 9:34 p.m.
Re: Ack.	kiro69	4/19/02 10:36 a.m.
Re: Ack.	Louis Wu	4/19/02 10:54 a.m.
Re: Ack.	protexts	4/19/02 10:01 p.m.
As I said before, I agree.	123456789	4/19/02 5:36 p.m.
Re: Why PCDestroyer is NOT a mental midget	protexts	4/19/02 5:38 a.m.
Re: Why PCDestroyer is NOT a mental midget	PCDestroyer	4/18/02 4:26 p.m.
awesome reply, pcd *NM*	kiro69	4/18/02 10:43 a.m.
Re: Quick note...	Lophan	4/18/02 12:38 p.m.
Re: Quick note...	PCDestroyer	4/18/02 4:40 p.m.
Re: Quick note...	Warbow	4/18/02 4:42 p.m.
Re: Quick note...	PCDestroyer	4/18/02 4:57 p.m.
Re: Let's look at this a little closer...	Lophan	4/19/02 12:24 a.m.
Re: Let's look at this a little closer...	PCDestroyer	4/19/02 10:24 a.m.
Re: Let's look at this a little closer...	vector40	4/19/02 9:03 p.m.
Re: Then again, theoretically...	Lophan	4/20/02 12:13 a.m.
Re: Then again, theoretically...	vector40	4/20/02 1:12 a.m.
Re: Then again, theoretically...	PCDestroyer	4/21/02 6:27 p.m.
Re: Then again, theoretically...	protexts	4/20/02 5:15 a.m.
Re: Then again, theoretically...	vector40	4/20/02 4:09 p.m.
Re: Then again, theoretically...	PCDestroyer	4/21/02 6:24 p.m.
Implementation and Stealing	protexts	4/22/02 3:24 a.m.
Re: Implementation and Stealing	Aida-kun	4/22/02 5:15 a.m.
Re: Implementation and Stealing	PCDestroyer	4/22/02 9:56 a.m.
Re: Implementation and Stealing	protexts	4/22/02 2:45 p.m.
Re: Implementation and Stealing	PCDestroyer	4/22/02 9:49 a.m.
Re: Implementation and Stealing	protexts	4/22/02 3:05 p.m.
Re: Implementation and Stealing	PCDestroyer	4/22/02 8:34 p.m.
Re: Implementation and Stealing	kiro69	4/23/02 10:35 a.m.
I agree	123456789	4/17/02 3:19 p.m.