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Re: On the bug
Posted By: Leisandir <joecooperstein@hotmail.com>	Date: 3/9/11 5:23 p.m.
In Response To: On the bug (ArteenEsben) : I think the "bug" is actually from holding down the trigger, not : with mashing it. : Halo 1 has five properties to determine error: *rate of fire: How fast can : you fire the weapon? : *initial error: How accurate is the weapon the first time you fire it? : Usually 1.0. : *final error: What is the final accuracy of the weapon after some time of : continuous fire? : *acceleration time: How long do you have to fire to reach the final error? : *deceleration time: How long do you have to idle to return to the initial : error? : As you said, the Halo 1 code is dependent on how you use the controller. It's : based on how long you hold down the trigger. The error only decreases once : you let go of the trigger, when it really should start to reset after each : bullet is fired. : Every weapon in Halo 1 has 0 sec as the error deceleration (i.e. no bloom), : except for the assault rifle (1.0 sec), plasma cannon (who cares), and : pistol. With the pistol, rate of fire is 3.5 shots/sec (0.29 secs/shot) : and deceleration time of 0.2 secs. This means that the error should reset : before each shot. If you mash the trigger, the error does reset as : expected. But the bug is that the error doesn't reset between shots when : you hold down the trigger. : That the pistol has spread at all when holding down the trigger is a mistake. Except that if it were a mistake, there wouldn't be code for bloom in the first place. It is obviously something that was intended to be there, and as has been demonstrated, it's something that is, in fact, present. There are several aspects of the original game which are strangely balanced because of its lack of online multiplayer; the sequels all had to be balanced, and they all had bloom.

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If you were in charge of creating a Reach Patch...	UnrealCh13f	3/9/11 3:52 a.m.
Re: If you were in charge of creating a Reach Patc	BlueNinja	3/9/11 4:17 a.m.
Re: If you were in charge of creating a Reach Patc	ZackDark	3/9/11 4:29 a.m.
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Re: If you were in charge of creating a Reach Patc	Beckx	3/9/11 9:14 a.m.
No we don't need a patch but we do need better...	ElzarTheBam	3/9/11 5:21 a.m.
Re: No we don't need a patch but we do need better	BlueNinja	3/9/11 6:48 a.m.
Yep they still have evade	ElzarTheBam	3/9/11 6:51 a.m.
Re: No we don't need a patch but we do need better	ArteenEsben	3/9/11 8:46 a.m.
Re: No we don't need a patch but we do need better	TCKaos	3/9/11 8:15 a.m.
Absolutely	padraig08	3/9/11 1:14 p.m.
Why is everyone so peeved about bloom?	Leisandir	3/9/11 8:18 a.m.
Re: Why is everyone so peeved about bloom?	ArteenEsben	3/9/11 8:48 a.m.
Re: Why is everyone so peeved about bloom?	Leisandir	3/9/11 9:58 a.m.
Re: Why is everyone so peeved about bloom?	ArteenEsben	3/9/11 10:18 a.m.
Re: Why is everyone so peeved about bloom?	bluerunner	3/9/11 10:45 a.m.
WTF? Are we still arguing about this?	Gilver	3/9/11 10:57 a.m.
Re: WTF? Are we still arguing about this?	Beckx	3/9/11 11:02 a.m.
Re: WTF? Are we still arguing about this?	ArteenEsben	3/9/11 12:56 p.m.
Re: WTF? Are we still arguing about this?	General Vagueness	3/9/11 2:38 p.m.
Re: WTF? Are we still arguing about this?	ArteenEsben	3/9/11 3:26 p.m.
Re: Why is everyone so peeved about bloom?	Bry	3/9/11 12:09 p.m.
Re: Why is everyone so peeved about bloom?	ArteenEsben	3/9/11 1:09 p.m.
Re: Why is everyone so peeved about bloom?	ArteenEsben	3/9/11 1:30 p.m.
Re: Why is everyone so peeved about bloom?	FyreWulff	3/9/11 3:13 p.m.
On the bug	ArteenEsben	3/9/11 4:56 p.m.
Re: On the bug	jo	3/9/11 5:21 p.m.
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Re: On the bug	Leisandir	3/9/11 5:23 p.m.
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Re: Why is everyone so peeved about bloom?	Gravemind	3/9/11 12:21 p.m.
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Re: If you were in charge of creating a Reach Patc	RC Master	3/9/11 8:41 a.m.
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Re: If you were in charge of creating a Reach Patc	Beckx	3/9/11 9:31 a.m.
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Re: If you were in charge of creating a Reach Patc	RC Master	3/10/11 11:40 a.m.
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Don't EVEN go there, girlfriend!	Bones153	3/9/11 11:00 a.m.
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Re: Don't EVEN go there, girlfriend!	bluerunner	3/9/11 1:09 p.m.
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Map Screenshots	ZaneZavin1	3/9/11 10:34 a.m.
Way too many things to fit into one TU *NM*	Decommissioner	3/9/11 10:52 a.m.
Re: If you were in charge of creating a Reach Patc	Cody Miller	3/9/11 11:07 a.m.
Hm. Where to begin?	Gravemind	3/9/11 12:10 p.m.
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D'oh!	Gravemind	3/9/11 12:23 p.m.
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pretty much my perception, too *NM*	Louis Wu	3/9/11 7:14 p.m.
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Re: If you were in charge of creating a Reach Patc	Azo 'Galvat	3/9/11 12:26 p.m.
Re: If you were in charge of creating a Reach Patc	hunt3r	3/9/11 12:27 p.m.
I'm just glad none of you are in charge. *NM*	InnerRayg	3/9/11 12:48 p.m.
Fix FF's problem with not registering vehicle kill	SonGoharotto	3/9/11 12:57 p.m.
Two Score Attack lobbies...	rhubarb	3/9/11 1:26 p.m.
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^^THIS^^ *NM*	Mazz	3/9/11 1:51 p.m.
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Re: Two Score Attack lobbies...	ManKitten	3/9/11 2:08 p.m.
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