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| Re: Lol you're funny | |
| Posted By: Avateur <avateur@gmail.com> | Date: 10/29/09 4:26 a.m. |
In Response To: Re: Lol you're funny (Lord Osiris) : Are you saying that only things created by Bungie are considered official : Canon? Why is it that they are able to take "original" story's : from and convert them into games? (I apologize If I am confused with what : you are saying here.) : It may have been their universe to begin with, but my point is that it's not
Pretty much what I'm saying is that until 343 actually starts producing its own games, whatever Bungie has done is canon and should remain as canon after the fact (unless things are changed in a logical, reasonable manner--which then leads to what is logical and reasonable. See two sentences down). That's why I said in an earlier post that we may have to break things into "Bungie Canon" and "Microsoft Canon" depending on how conflicting each is with one another. If 343 goes and makes Halo 4 and Master Chief is suddenly named George and is Spartan-999, then we would obviously have an extreme issue regarding what's already "set in stone" and what they did with it. I feel that Halo Wars conflicts with many things, and considers events like slipspace travel to be instant and even appears to portray them as such. : I really don't think that "suspension of reality" is an acceptable
Not even the turret, but the missile pod and Spartan Laser. I love using those things as an ODST, and they definitely added to the fun. NMPD is a prime example of that stuff. "For fun" can be a very good reason. You're also forgetting that I can flip Elephants and Scorpions as Master Chief, and that I can flip Scorpions as ODSTs as well. Gameplay doesn't equate to canon in every instance. : The thing I am saying is that without a full copy of the Bible, we can't say
I agree. The issue is, how far does 343/Microsoft deviate or screw up what is already known, gaps excluded? And again, I'm not expecting them to wreck everything or even anything. But when looking at Halo Wars, I really hope there's great attention paid to detail. : And I want to make sure you know where I'm coming from: I understand you
And here's the tricky part of my argument and yours. I agree with you when it comes to the fact that the IP is now owned by Microsoft, but the fact that Bungie is still making Halo games says that they still are the authority in the Greater Halo Universe. H1-H3 was set in stone by them. ODST? Them. Reach? Them. Sure, MS owns the IP, but until that torch has been handed off to 343 officially, I feel that Halo Wars and many other non-Bungie items can be highly scrutinized and even disregarded as canon depending on just how many errors there are. I have extreme faith in Frankie and 343, but wouldn't it suck if Bungie made Reach, didn't tell Frankie or anyone at 343 what they had planned, and then 343 released a game a year later that completely contradicted many events Bungie portrayed? I would have to say that 343's would be entirely discounted. Naturally this won't happen, but if in the future 343 were to make a game, and within that game they decided they really hated some of Bungie's decisions in prior games (and thus decided to retcon big time), I'd either discount it all or call it "Microsoft Canon" now that Bungie is officially out of the "Halo Game Business" and on to their new IP. Frankie and 343 will have their chance to shine (or flicker out of existence), but until Bungie backs away from kicking so much ass and setting the standard (and the canon), regardless of who owned what as of when, the story is set by Bungie. : P.S. Yay for Bungie getting marathon back! Brings back memories of M:I on the
I wasn't allowed when that young. Very sadface. Oni was the first Bungie game I played. And I really wonder if they'll be revisiting Marathon now that they have it back!
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