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Re: Lol you're funny
Posted By: Lord Osiris <justin.azevedo20@gmail.com>Date: 10/28/09 11:48 p.m.

In Response To: Lol you're funny (Avateur)


: http://forums.bungie.org/halo/archive31.pl?read=919657

: And what Microsoft decides as canon is NOT necessarily canon. Bungie is
: clearly still working on Halo, even if Reach is where it stops, and they
: therefore are still the creators, owners, and expanders of the true Halo
: Story Bible. Therefore, Halo Wars may not be anything like what Bungie had
: planned or envisioned, and whatever 343 may end up doing could be huge
: blasphemy (note to Frankie: I'm not expecting it to be or saying it will
: be, I'm just arguing for objectvity's sake).

: So until Bungie stops letting their child grow and sends it off, for good, to
: the next level of schooling (which may or may not be a good thing), canon
: is still set by them. And yeah, that's just my opinion and I am speaking
: as though I'm the authority on the matter, but until I see Bungie move on
: and see where Microsoft takes everything or views everything, I'm pretty
: much ignoring whatever is shown. Halo Wars got a lot wrong. Period.

: The game was fun, but I'm not debating fun. If needbe things may need to get
: classified as "Bungie Canon" and "Microsoft Canon" for
: future installments, but I think we are BUNGIE.org will know which to
: consider actual canon, unless 343 pulls off some pretty damn accurate
: stuff that doesn't appear to butcher or screw with everything. In other
: words, we don't need 343 retconning thousands of things to suit their
: purposes. I can't wait to see where they go with it, but until that time,
: Bungie is the authority. Sorry Ensemble.

I respect where you are coming from, but I respectfully disagree. Bungie does not oversee the creation of every Halo game, they just oversee their own. Microsoft, on the other hand (being the publisher and IP holder,), oversees everything. I don't think that people take into account that MS cares about Halo and the way it perceived, at the very least story wise. It is true that the Halo Bible is ever expanding, but there is always a reason they give us a part of a story and then not tell us more information about why it happened that way. I am sure there is a canonical explanation to all of the problems you outlined, but it just so happens that we may not have all of the issues explained fully. Why do this, you say? Because it gives us a chance to discover something later that we probably wouldn't have understood in the first place. Sometimes, granted, it is a design problem or need to cut something from the game. Just think back to Halo 1, our "Holy Grail" of Halo story. Design decisions such as not letting us drive wraiths or use energy swords and then magically being able to do both of those things and jack vehicles in Halo 2. The design decision behind that? MC got a new suit- and that's the only reason I've ever heard to explain those changes. Similar to Halo Wars. Design choices in that game led to the "canonical inconsistencies" that you believe to be there. I am just saying if we looked at the other games and we would see things that are inconsistent between them, and we never really bitched about them then. Wait till the Full HW story is there and then decide if you see "canonical inconsistencies" there. Although I think that every piece of story in every piece of media is canon (save the Halo animes, as I haven't seen them yet, so I cannot make judgement,) I believe that there are inconsistencies-we just haven't had everything explained fully to us.

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Why Halo Wars being bad is a wonderful thingrolandk73 10/28/09 4:27 p.m.
     Re: Why Halo Wars being bad is a wonderful thingsharpsniper99 10/28/09 4:42 p.m.
           Re: Why Halo Wars being bad is a wonderful thingrolandk73 10/28/09 4:45 p.m.
                 Re: Why Halo Wars being bad is a wonderful thingSonofMacPhisto 10/28/09 4:50 p.m.
                       Re: Why Halo Wars being bad is a wonderful thingBry 10/28/09 5:07 p.m.
                             Re: Why Halo Wars being bad is a wonderful thingbluerunner 10/28/09 6:43 p.m.
                                   Re: Why Halo Wars being bad is a wonderful thingGeneral Vagueness 10/28/09 7:00 p.m.
                                         Re: Why Halo Wars being bad is a wonderful thingStephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/28/09 8:29 p.m.
                                               Re: Why Halo Wars being bad is a wonderful thingSilent Knight 10/29/09 6:43 a.m.
                                         Me too!!! *NM*mendicantbias00 11/3/09 1:23 p.m.
           Re: Why Halo Wars being bad is a wonderful thingFyreWulff 10/28/09 9:39 p.m.
     Re: Why Halo Wars being bad is a wonderful thingYNation913 10/28/09 4:46 p.m.
           Re: Why Halo Wars being bad is a wonderful thingrolandk73 10/28/09 4:50 p.m.
                 Re: Why Halo Wars being bad is a wonderful thingYNation913 10/28/09 4:54 p.m.
     Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonLord Osiris 10/28/09 7:56 p.m.
           Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonCody Miller 10/28/09 9:11 p.m.
                 Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonCasimir 10/28/09 9:50 p.m.
                 Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonThorsHammer 10/29/09 9:12 a.m.
                 Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonGeneral Vagueness 10/29/09 10:36 a.m.
                       Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonLouis Wu 10/29/09 11:31 a.m.
                             Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonCody Miller 10/29/09 11:35 a.m.
                             Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonGeneral Vagueness 10/29/09 12:30 p.m.
                                   Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonThorsHammer 10/30/09 9:03 a.m.
                                         Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonGeneral Vagueness 10/30/09 9:32 a.m.
                                               Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonThorsHammer 11/1/09 4:08 p.m.
                 Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonMiguel Chavez 10/31/09 1:29 p.m.
                       Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonYNation913 10/31/09 4:24 p.m.
                             Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonOmega 11/1/09 12:57 a.m.
                                   Thank you!Miguel Chavez 11/2/09 12:49 p.m.
                       Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonCody Miller 11/2/09 1:00 p.m.
                             Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonGeneral Vagueness 11/2/09 1:21 p.m.
                                   Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonEiii 11/2/09 4:52 p.m.
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                                   Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonStephen L. (SoundEffect) 11/2/09 2:46 p.m.
                 Re: Halo Wars=NOT a Bad Game, COMPLETELY CanonAndrew Nagy 11/1/09 4:17 p.m.
           Lol you're funnyAvateur 10/28/09 10:12 p.m.
                 Re: Lol you're funnyLord Osiris 10/28/09 11:48 p.m.
                       Re: Lol you're funnyAvateur 10/29/09 2:22 a.m.
                             Re: Lol you're funnyLord Osiris 10/29/09 3:49 a.m.
                                   Re: Lol you're funnyAvateur 10/29/09 4:26 a.m.
                                         Re: Lol you're funnyLord Osiris 10/29/09 5:25 a.m.
                                   Re: Lol you're funnyBry 10/29/09 4:33 a.m.
                                         Re: Lol you're funnyAvateur 10/29/09 5:25 a.m.
                                               Re: Lol you're funnyBry 10/29/09 8:30 a.m.
                                                     Re: Lol you're funnyAvateur 10/29/09 2:56 p.m.
                                   Re: Lol you're funnyBernard Strauss 10/29/09 11:57 a.m.
                 Re: Lol you're funnyFrankie 10/29/09 3:36 p.m.
                       Re: Lol you're funnyGeneral Vagueness 10/29/09 4:01 p.m.
                             Re: Lol you're funnyPhoenix_9286 10/29/09 5:51 p.m.
                       Re: Lol you're funnyYNation913 10/29/09 6:04 p.m.
                       Re: Lol you're funnyAvateur 10/29/09 9:17 p.m.
                       When life gives you canon, make cannonadeNarcogen 10/29/09 10:55 p.m.
                             Re: When life gives you canon, make cannonadeStephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/30/09 6:40 a.m.
                                   BUT MAKE SURE THE CANNONADE IS SWEET. PLZ.AngelicLionheart 11/3/09 6:20 p.m.
     Re: Why Halo Wars being bad is a wonderful thingreprobate 10/29/09 1:10 a.m.
     But Halo Wars Isn't Bad... *NM*Morpheus 10/29/09 12:28 p.m.
     Halo Wars is not a Halo Game. Move along people *NM*MasterChief2829 11/1/09 1:33 a.m.
           Of course it is. *NM*Ragashingo 11/1/09 1:02 a.m.
                 Really? This Again?Lord Osiris 11/1/09 1:40 a.m.
                 rabble rabble rabbleZaneZavin 11/1/09 1:42 a.m.
           Troll *NM*Metalingus627 11/1/09 3:25 a.m.
           QQ moar. *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 11/1/09 9:22 a.m.



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