Re: Ok, but that doesn't explain these confusing p |
Posted By: Rechlieu <mnavarre@disgruntle.us> | Date: 11/18/04 5:38 p.m. |
In Response To: Re: Ok, but that doesn't explain these confusing p (Skeg)
: Ok, B-Sharp, a lot of what you say fits in perfectly with everything that has
: happened so far. However, there is a fatal flaw in your thinking that the
: 'Ark' is Earth itself.
: If the planet itself was the 'Ark', then the Humans/Forerunner that survived
: the activation of the Halo's would have at least recorded the events. They
: would still have had the technology and Human civilization wouldn't have
: time warped back to the stone age. I think it makes more sense that the
: 'Ark' isn't Earth itself, but is infact ON Earth. Using your theory (and
: it IS very good) and the other theories around here that the 'Ark' is DNA
: storage, you can explain everything. Humans were 're-born' with no
: recollection of their past.
Well, here's a "what if" that's been rettling around in my head for a couple of days:
Note that I'm assuming that Humans are descended from Forerunner and that Earth is the Ark.
What if the Ark could only protect a small area of earth from the Halos being fired? The Ark could have been designed to protect a small population sample that would evetually reseed the galaxy after the cleansing. So the Flood escape again(?), the Halos are fired, whamo! cataclysmic events wipe out all life on Earth except the small population protected by the Ark. The firing of the Halos perhaps rendered much of the Forerunner tech on Earth inoperable or inaccessable. So Humans spend the next 100,000 odd years clawing their way back from the edge with only vague legends and genetic memories of their Forerunner past.
And then we get to the Master Chief and his almost instinctual feeling for Forerunner tech.
OK, now let's wander off into real wild-eyed speculation. If all life, save the small sample of humans preserved on Earth, was wiped out where'd the Prophets and Elites and so on come from, hmmm?
What if Earth wasn't the only Ark? Not to say there's another "master trigger" elsewhere, the Forerunners gave the other races bomb shelters, not the keys to the gun cabinet.But, what if the Forerunners also preserved samples of some of their client races? And maybe one of those client races came off a bit better than the Humans after the firing of the rings.
Say, maybe, the Prophets.
Maybe they had easier access to Forerunner tech, the memories stayed a little clearer and over time got twisted into the current Covenant religion. Kind of "The Forerunner left in the cleansing light of the Holy Rings, and we weren't good enough to go, so we need to find all their stuff and then we can light off the rings and follow them on the Great Journey".
It'd kind of explain why the Humans weren't offered a chance to join the Covenant. They're debased Forerunner who weren't good enough to join their fellows on the Great Journey, so they're obviously impure and must be destroyed.
*Shrug* Like I said, just kinda a "what if", and it's got holes you could drive High Charity through. But it's kind of a fun line of thought.
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Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | Sep7imus [subnova] | 11/15/04 11:21 a.m. |
You should know better. | Stuntmutt | 11/15/04 11:25 a.m. |
lol :D *NM* | Mirel | 11/15/04 11:35 a.m. |
Bomb to master chiefs back in a hole. | SketchTeno | 11/17/04 3:32 p.m. |
Re: Bomb to master chiefs back in a hole. | dovber | 11/17/04 4:34 p.m. |
LOL, I know, I know... | SketchTeno | 11/23/04 10:06 p.m. |
Re: LOL, I know, I know... | Mr. Mister | 11/23/04 11:18 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | GiantKillerRobots | 11/15/04 11:34 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | mud | 11/15/04 11:34 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | c0ld vengeance | 11/15/04 11:34 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | Slothboy | 11/15/04 11:36 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | Sep7imus [subnova] | 11/15/04 11:42 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | Slothboy | 11/15/04 11:48 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | Mr Yun | 11/15/04 12:04 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | Slothboy | 11/15/04 12:49 p.m. |
Long and Rambling *SP* | Exogenesis | 11/15/04 8:16 p.m. |
And yet another thought... *SP* | axman | 11/17/04 2:27 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | BiffMeistro | 12/1/04 11:00 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | Peptuck | 12/2/04 12:59 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Pico | 11/15/04 12:47 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Slothboy | 11/15/04 12:56 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Sep7imus [subnova] | 11/15/04 1:00 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Slothboy | 11/15/04 1:13 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Red Loser | 11/15/04 1:43 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Pico | 11/15/04 1:56 p.m. |
what is gravemind | dr phil | 11/17/04 7:42 p.m. |
Re: what is gravemind *SP* | Ross Mills [subnova] | 11/17/04 7:44 p.m. |
little shop of horror *NM* | hminn | 11/17/04 7:44 p.m. |
Re: what is gravemind | Red Jinn | 11/17/04 7:59 p.m. |
Re: what is gravemind | Tweek | 11/17/04 10:21 p.m. |
Re: what is gravemind | Red Jinn | 11/18/04 12:24 a.m. |
Re: what is gravemind | Gundulf | 11/17/04 8:40 p.m. |
Re: what is gravemind | floodkiller | 11/23/04 5:30 p.m. |
Re: what is gravemind | Cerami | 11/23/04 5:38 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Crimson Joker | 11/24/04 12:46 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | reagan64 | 11/23/04 9:52 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | reagan64 | 11/23/04 9:52 p.m. |
OOPS *NM* | reagan64 | 11/23/04 9:53 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Jonathan Goss | 11/23/04 10:51 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Crimson Joker | 11/24/04 12:43 p.m. |
Mmmmm....sweetshops. *NM* | Siva Wr'k | 11/24/04 1:25 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Crimson Joker | 11/24/04 1:28 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Scorpion (Tank) King | 11/25/04 11:12 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Sephlock | 11/25/04 11:23 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Iago1537 | 11/25/04 11:44 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Sephlock | 11/26/04 12:08 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Iago1537 | 11/26/04 11:30 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Sephlock | 11/27/04 12:06 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | AllAmerican | 11/26/04 12:00 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Sephlock | 11/26/04 12:09 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | AllAmerican | 11/26/04 1:27 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | slamjack | 11/26/04 1:31 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Sephlock | 11/26/04 4:36 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Sephlock | 11/26/04 4:32 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | Mangler | 12/2/04 5:27 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? More *SP* | tiny tim | 12/2/04 10:38 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | Mangler | 12/2/04 5:22 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | Alex Cross | 11/15/04 11:40 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | Count Zero | 11/15/04 11:42 a.m. |
my thoughts | kraz8 | 11/15/04 12:49 p.m. |
Just a few things to add *SP* | FriendlyFire | 11/15/04 1:11 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* *NM* | Elite TAR | 11/17/04 8:54 a.m. |
Agreed *NM* | Andrew Nagy | 11/17/04 11:46 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | Sephlock | 12/3/04 1:56 a.m. |
Stunt is a cornball. :P *SP* | Pak | 11/15/04 11:47 a.m. |
Re: Stunt is a cornball. :P *SP* | Red Loser | 11/15/04 2:00 p.m. |
Re: Stunt is a cornball. :P *SP* | Pak | 11/15/04 2:14 p.m. |
Re: Stunt is a cornball. :P *SP* | Corgy | 11/24/04 12:04 p.m. |
Re: Stunt is a cornball. :P *SP* | Snowfire | 11/15/04 3:29 p.m. |
Re: Stunt is a cornball. :P *SP* | PsycoJoe | 11/15/04 8:02 p.m. |
You were in a place you weren't supposed to be | Mirel | 11/15/04 11:49 a.m. |
:S I didn't make thát title :S:S *NM* | Mirel | 11/15/04 11:54 a.m. |
Explanation in simple language - spoiler heavy | Jillybean | 11/15/04 12:05 p.m. |
A story so confusing, only a girl could understand *NM* | mercury | 11/15/04 12:11 p.m. |
What can I say? I'm complex | Jillybean | 11/15/04 12:14 p.m. |
It's not THAT confusing. *NM* | Hikaru-119 | 11/17/04 8:43 a.m. |
I understood it. | Gre'Thor | 11/17/04 12:10 p.m. |
Re: Explanation in simple language - spoiler heavy | Pak | 11/15/04 12:46 p.m. |
Fitting...;) | kraz8 | 11/15/04 12:56 p.m. |
Re: Fitting...;) | Bonekin | 11/15/04 6:19 p.m. |
Re: Fitting...;) | JPJ007 | 11/17/04 1:09 p.m. |
Aren't all women...? At least most of em... *NM* | SirTejicus | 11/17/04 9:28 p.m. |
Re: Explanation in simple language - spoiler heavy | Sep7imus [subnova] | 11/15/04 1:01 p.m. |
Very well played | c0ld vengeance | 11/15/04 2:17 p.m. |
Re: Explanation in simple language - spoiler heavy | mnemesis | 11/15/04 3:21 p.m. |
Phase two of HBO takeover - complete | Jillybean | 11/16/04 7:26 a.m. |
Re: Explanation in simple language - spoiler heavy | Reitz | 11/17/04 4:46 a.m. |
Still don't get it! ;-) *NM* | Phish | 11/17/04 4:58 a.m. |
Re: Still don't get it! ;-) | SteveOll | 11/17/04 5:10 a.m. |
So who exactly let the flood loose? | JT | 11/25/04 3:47 a.m. |
The Point Being...? | Skeg | 11/17/04 6:06 a.m. |
Re: The Point Being...? | lappop | 11/17/04 6:50 a.m. |
Re: The Point Being...? | Steltek | 11/17/04 7:22 a.m. |
Re: The Point Being...? | B-Sharp | 11/17/04 4:36 p.m. |
Re: The Point Being...? | fludblud | 11/25/04 7:45 a.m. |
Small addition for Front page | Jillybean | 11/17/04 5:13 a.m. |
Re: Small addition for Front page | Huricos | 11/17/04 5:43 a.m. |
Thoughts | gspawn | 11/17/04 9:24 a.m. |
Re: whats a gravemind/audrey?? | Nicework | 11/17/04 5:58 a.m. |
Re: whats a gravemind/audrey?? | Huricos | 11/17/04 6:24 a.m. |
Re: whats a gravemind/audrey?? | guiltysparkzz | 11/17/04 7:12 a.m. |
Re: Explanation in simple language - spoiler heavy | Ross Mills [subnova] | 11/17/04 7:28 a.m. |
Re: Explanation in simple language - spoiler heavy | Ma1agate | 11/17/04 8:47 a.m. |
Re: Explanation in simple language - spoiler heavy | Rassilon | 11/17/04 9:08 a.m. |
What am I, a Bungie employee? | Jillybean | 11/17/04 10:45 a.m. |
Re: On the Hunters... | Ain Soph Aur | 11/17/04 1:45 p.m. |
Re: Explanation in simple language - spoiler heavy | paladin2007 | 11/17/04 10:40 a.m. |
on halos and heresy *SP* | drummand | 11/17/04 1:15 p.m. |
Re: on halos and heresy *SP* | Sep7imus [subnova] | 11/17/04 1:25 p.m. |
Re: on halos and heresy *SP* | Jillybean | 11/17/04 2:56 p.m. |
i'm still confused... *SP* | axman | 11/17/04 4:08 p.m. |
Re: i'm still confused... *SP* | Count Zero | 11/17/04 4:18 p.m. |
Re: i'm still confused... *SP* | Darkstar | 11/17/04 4:22 p.m. |
Re: i'm still confused... *SP* | Mr Yun | 11/17/04 4:28 p.m. |
Re: i'm still confused... *SP* | FriendlyFire | 11/18/04 10:23 a.m. |
Re: i'm still confused... *SP* | Count Zero | 11/18/04 10:41 a.m. |
Re: i'm still confused... *SP* | FriendlyFire | 11/18/04 3:01 p.m. |
Prevalence of Flood | Capo Rip | 12/3/04 12:39 a.m. |
Re: Prevalence of Flood | Sephlock | 12/3/04 1:49 a.m. |
Re: i'm still confused... *SP* | Crimson Joker | 11/24/04 1:22 p.m. |
Re: i'm still confused... *SP* | Crimson Joker | 11/24/04 1:25 p.m. |
Who is Audrey?? *NM* | tLove | 11/17/04 8:14 p.m. |
Re: Who is Audrey?? | Rockhard | 11/17/04 8:21 p.m. |
Re: Who is Audrey?? | Rockhard | 11/17/04 8:26 p.m. |
Re: Explanation in simple language - spoiler heavy | Narcogen | 12/14/04 10:40 p.m. |
Ok, but that doesn't explain these confusing parts | Key Lime | 11/17/04 10:46 a.m. |
Feed me! (Or answers to said questions) | Jillybean | 11/17/04 10:51 a.m. |
Re: Feed me! (Or answers to said questions) | Key Lime | 11/17/04 10:57 a.m. |
Re: Feed me! (Or answers to said questions) | Count Zero | 11/17/04 11:36 a.m. |
Re: Feed me! (Or answers to said questions) | FINWeasel | 11/17/04 11:10 a.m. |
Re: Feed me! (Or answers to said questions) | Jillybean | 11/17/04 11:16 a.m. |
This might tie up some loose ends. | rEisen Sniper | 11/17/04 11:35 a.m. |
Re: Another loose end? | drummand | 11/17/04 12:34 p.m. |
Re: Another loose end? | Knight Premier | 11/17/04 5:47 p.m. |
Re: Another loose end? | Xephon | 12/4/04 3:20 p.m. |
Re: This might tie up some loose ends. | monctezuma | 11/17/04 5:22 p.m. |
Re: This might tie up some loose ends. | rEisen Sniper | 11/19/04 12:38 a.m. |
Re: This might tie up some loose ends. | floodkiller | 12/10/04 2:39 p.m. |
Re: Ok, but that doesn't explain these confusing p | B-Sharp | 11/17/04 6:27 p.m. |
Re: Ok, but that doesn't explain these confusing p | Rama~Swarm, Kaosu Duce | 11/17/04 8:28 p.m. |
Re: Ok, but that doesn't explain these confusing p | Skeg | 11/18/04 2:37 p.m. |
Re: Ok, but that doesn't explain these confusing p | Rechlieu | 11/18/04 5:38 p.m. |
Re: Ok, but that doesn't explain these confusing p | B-Sharp | 11/18/04 6:41 p.m. |
Re: Ok, but that doesn't explain these confusing p | Jack the Rabbit | 11/21/04 12:17 a.m. |
Re: Ok, but that doesn't explain these confusing p | fA||en | 11/21/04 12:24 a.m. |
Re: Ok, but that doesn't explain these confusing p | Poppy | 11/21/04 1:05 a.m. |
This took a long time to write so read it please | Red Jinn | 11/17/04 8:30 p.m. |
Humans = Reclaimers, why? I think... | Kage-maru | 11/25/04 5:12 a.m. |
Re: Humans = Reclaimers, why? I think... | fludblud | 11/25/04 5:41 a.m. |
Re: Humans = Reclaimers, why? I think... | Kage-maru | 11/25/04 5:46 a.m. |
Re: Humans = Reclaimers, why? I think... | floodkiller | 11/25/04 2:53 p.m. |
Re: Humans = Reclaimers, why? I think... | Kage-maru | 11/26/04 3:52 a.m. |
Re: Humans = Reclaimers, why? I think... | Arbitar | 11/26/04 12:14 p.m. |
Re: Humans = Reclaimers, why? | Bill Hardigg | 12/10/04 2:53 p.m. |
Re: Humans = Reclaimers, why? *sp* | Ma1agate | 12/10/04 3:26 p.m. |
Re: Humans = Reclaimers, why? | bob47895 | 12/13/04 6:35 p.m. |
Why doesnt this forum die? *NM* | InsomniacGhost | 12/13/04 6:40 p.m. |
THAT was uncalled for... *NM* | Chester the Destroyer | 12/13/04 8:40 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | Bickers117 | 11/17/04 11:23 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | ForgottenOne | 11/18/04 12:40 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | 17 | 11/25/04 4:46 p.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | Tim Jones | 11/26/04 11:18 a.m. |
Re: Who turned on whom? LOTS of *SP* | EvilAuthor | 11/26/04 12:28 p.m. |