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Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!
Posted By: General Vagueness <General.Vagueness@gmail.com>Date: 10/15/11 4:24 p.m.

In Response To: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list! (ElzarTheBam)


I wish they'd changed up the GS values for these significantly more like a lot of you guys.

uberfoop:
: I'd imagine that the challenge only applies to YOU killing grunts, not Flood,
: as preventing Flood from killing grunts would be either nigh-impossible or
: strictly impossible. As such, it's probably not too bad on heroic.

The hard part is dealing with the Grunts with fuel rod guns and the ones in turrets.

: Really don't understand why this is getting all the praise. It's a lot less
: boring than all the other bland achievement lists out there, but there are
: ten years of Halo 1 history to suggest way more interesting ways to take it.

: And no tricking challenges? I mean, I can understand it if they reject my
: suggestion of a T2T challenge for 1GS. But NOTHING? No summiting a BBT? No
: press X to flip Halo? No leading Goldie to the end of AotCR, or killing
: him in the Silent Cartographer security cutscene? What is this garbage?

I think it's safe to assume at least one of the skulls will require tricking to reach it, and probably 3 or 4 will.

Quirel:
: IIRC, Sentinels are nearly invulnerable to the shotgun on Heroic. And this is
: going to make both Wraith traps a real pain in the @$#.

You don't remember correctly, depending on the distance you're thinking of-- even on Legendary, at close range the shotgun still only takes 5, maybe 6 rounds tops to take down a Sentinel.

Cocopjojo:
: That's crazy. Is it even possible to get the Hog back up the spiral-ramp
: rooms? The ones with no guard rails and the no-way-out-pit at the bottom?
: I don't think you can make the turns without having to come to a dead stop
: and wiggle it back and forth. The enemies would be shooting at you the
: whole time.

: I do this all the time on foot, just run to the active camo room, grenade
: jump up, and the active camo will last til the final spiral-ramp room. The
: only guy you really have to kill is Goldie guarding the exit.

I thought he meant taking it to the door-- he might have forgotten, like I did, how far down you have to go and how many enemies appear between you and that door on your way up. The active camo is the way to go, but I don't think I've ever gotten it without at least killing a few enemies first, and I'm not sure you can make it past all the rest before it runs out, the few times when I tried sneaking by without killing anything it ran out roughly when I entered the last room before the last/first door, give or take being on the ramps going up to it or about in the middle of the room-- which saves a lot of time and effort, but doesn't mean it's over.
He also could've been referring to, or not referring to but still thinking of, going through the door directly-- you guys kept in all the glitches, and you can use the Warthog to get through the door before it's unlocked... I don't remember if that affects the enemies after you activate the cartographer.

Serpx:
: And lets not forget finding the yellow banshee, whys that not in there? Took
: me forever to find it.

Now that you mention it, I would have liked to see that, although that doesn't mean the vehicle itself isn't somewhere in the game... I hope it is.

Rockslider:
: I've never been interested in Xbox achievements and would disable the
: announcements if only I could, but I've taken a look at the list anyway
: and here are some comments.

: How Pedestrian (Halo on foot): I agree with uberfoop. AOTCR would've been a
: better choice. When doing Halo on foot, the only significant challenge
: would be to negotiate that gap in the tunnel. With AOTCR however, there
: are enemy vehicles to face. Much more interesting. Also, in the second
: half of Halo, doing things on foot would involve quite a bit of running
: without meeting any enemies, which I think would bore a lot of folk,
: though you can always admire the scenery. But in AOTCR you meet a steady
: stream of baddies, so it plays much better. I almost always play that
: level on foot.

I was thinking about it kind of jokingly before but now I'm honestly wondering if that's supposed to be part of the challenge. Tons of games have achievements that are fun, or require skill, or both, wouldn't it be original, and possibly just as challenging, to stave off boredom for such a long time? I wouldn't want it to become common but as one achievement (on what we agree is a good level in a good game) I'm OK with it. Also on AotCR you have a relatively good supply of rockets, sniper ammo, and active camo if you go on foot. But you already knew that. I mean, how couldn't you?

: Grenadier (SC finale on Heroic or higher without shooting): Seems a poor
: choice of name. It's not as if you'd necessarily be basing your escape on
: grenade work. Much of it could be done with cloaking and melee, or just
: running like hell.

alternative suggestion: Grenade Your Way Out- Finish the second interior section of Keyes [or some other area, I guess] using only grenades-- I've nearly done this several times, it's fun

: Wraith Hunter (destroy four Wraiths in AOTCR): Why not the full five? Seems
: pretty arbitrary to just ask for just four. Five would be a more
: satisfying achievement surely. Course, it's the one above the tunnel
: entrance which is the tricky one, when the pilot's feeling shy.

I think that's precisely why it's not all five-- without relying on some tricking or a co-op partner or adding in the Spartan laser (>_>) I'm pretty sure there's no guarantee that Wraith won't sit in some out of the way spot for the rest of eternity, and you have finite grenades to chuck into the unknown hoping to blow it up.

: That Just Happened (The Library on Heroic or higher without dying): In my
: book not dying is a baseline requirement for taking satisfaction in
: completing any level, so that achievement would be a big round nothing
: even if I was interested in them.

Well not everyone's been practicing for 10 7-ish years like you. I can get through any level on easy or normal without dying and I can manage it a good amount of the time on Heroic, depending on the level and just how things go that day.

: Also, why pick out just that level?

It's one of the longer ones, so it's a bit more challenging, and one less liked historically, so it gives people reason to play it more than once.

: In fact, what about all the individual achievements for completing levels?
: Wouldn't it have been better to have them for getting through without
: dying or reverting, so it's a more significant accomplishment? I mean
: heck, if you die or revert during a level, let's face it, you failed!

Failed how, exactly? The achievements are for completing the level which is clearly doable even if you die a few times. I understand the challenge element of it but it seems like the step after that is not allowing people to save their game-- and in fact they already implemented that with the Iron skull (if it works like I think it does).

: Should you nevertheless get an achievement? Seems inappropriate to me.
: Come to think of it, how come they don't have achievements for completing
: levels on Legendary without dying or reverting? Solid meaningful
: challenges. Wouldn't people be interested in that?

This is par for the course, pretty much every game with a number of levels between "a handful" and "a freaking ton" has an achievement for each level, with minimal qualifications placed on it. If MS was OK with letting dozens of games go out for its system with those achievements they're not gong to stop an in-house studio from making them now.
People would be interested, but most probably wouldn't do any levels on Legendary without dying.

: Look Out for the Little Guys (TB on Heroic or higher without killing any
: Grunts): Sounds an interesting challenge. I might even give that a go
: sometime in H1. Gonna be hard not to pull the trigger when I see those
: little grunty faces though! I'd have to concentrate hard, lest instinct
: kick in.

especially when they start firing fuel rod guns at you

: Tying Up Loose Ends (Keyes on Heroic or higher killing all Elites): This is
: another one which is pretty much like normal play in my book. Leaving any
: covies breathing goes against the grain.

I'm that way too, but not everyone is... actually come to think of it, that might mean you have to kill them personally, as in not letting the Flood kill them-- that would be pretty difficult.

You cannot fall off the floor.


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Replies:

Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!ElzarTheBam 10/14/11 5:55 p.m.
     Holy crap!The BS Police 10/14/11 6:04 p.m.
           Re: Holy crap!Ragashingo 10/14/11 6:54 p.m.
           Re: Holy crap!uberfoop 10/14/11 7:31 p.m.
           Re: Holy crap!Quirel 10/14/11 8:04 p.m.
                 Re: Holy crap!Cocopjojo 10/14/11 8:37 p.m.
                       Re: Holy crap!Quirel 10/14/11 8:44 p.m.
                             Re: Holy crap!Gravemind 10/15/11 5:27 a.m.
                                   Re: Holy crap!Quirel 10/15/11 11:41 a.m.
                                         Re: Holy crap!SonofMacPhisto 10/15/11 1:02 p.m.
                       Re: Holy crap!Rockslider 10/15/11 4:58 p.m.
                 Re: Holy crap!Rockslider 10/15/11 5:19 p.m.
                       Re: Holy crap!uberfoop 10/15/11 5:29 p.m.
     Finally! A Halo game with challenging achievementsbryan newman 10/14/11 6:12 p.m.
           does too! *NM*kornman00 10/14/11 7:21 p.m.
                 Re: does too!Quirel 10/14/11 8:06 p.m.
                       I have 50 of them on the 1st, 56 on the 2nd.bryan newman 10/14/11 9:47 p.m.
                             Re: I have 50 of them on the 1st, 56 on the 2nd.ArteenEsben 10/15/11 6:46 a.m.
                                   enough apparently as I have the achievement *NM*bryan newman 10/15/11 12:16 p.m.
                       Most of these can be done in a week too... *NM*kornman00 10/14/11 9:49 p.m.
                 Darn you Running the Show! *NM*Sqorck 10/15/11 9:16 a.m.
                       Re: Darn you Running the Show!animam 10/16/11 6:57 p.m.
     These are going to be lots of fun. :) *NM*Postmortem 10/14/11 6:26 p.m.
     Best Halo Achievement list?Hypertrooper 10/14/11 6:42 p.m.
     Psh, nothing I haven't done beforeArteenEsben 10/14/11 6:46 p.m.
     Walk it off . . .Jillybean 10/14/11 6:48 p.m.
           co-op.RC Master 10/14/11 6:51 p.m.
     Wait... on Keyes...RC Master 10/14/11 6:49 p.m.
           Re: Wait... on Keyes...Ragashingo 10/14/11 6:55 p.m.
           Re: Wait... on Keyes...Firemist 10/14/11 7:11 p.m.
                 Re: Wait... on Keyes...ArteenEsben 10/14/11 7:26 p.m.
                       I'll Be Taking ThatKermit 10/14/11 7:28 p.m.
                       Re: Wait... on Keyes...Firemist 10/14/11 9:54 p.m.
                             Re: No infinites on Keyes?davidfuchs 10/14/11 10:36 p.m.
                                   Re: No infinites on Keyes?ArteenEsben 10/15/11 6:42 a.m.
                                         Re: No infinites on Keyes?Rockslider 10/15/11 3:09 p.m.
     Some of those seem...Mid7night 10/14/11 7:15 p.m.
           Yeah, should have made the lvl complete ones less *NM*kornman00 10/14/11 7:20 p.m.
                 Most of the non-hardcore wont get them. *NM*Sqorck 10/15/11 9:22 a.m.
     *Boots Halo CE* *NM*INSANEdrive 10/14/11 7:45 p.m.
     Boring.uberfoop 10/14/11 7:55 p.m.
           Re: Boring.Revenant1988 10/14/11 9:09 p.m.
                 Re: Boring.uberfoop 10/14/11 9:26 p.m.
           I know a way to make it more interesting...RC Master 10/14/11 9:52 p.m.
                 Wait, cancel the skullsRC Master 10/14/11 9:53 p.m.
           And lets not forgetSerpx 10/14/11 11:10 p.m.
                 Re: And lets not forgetQuirel 10/15/11 12:16 a.m.
     AotCR should've had it's own "How Pedestrian"Gravemind 10/14/11 8:29 p.m.
     Awesome! Also wanting to know...GrimBrother One 10/14/11 9:27 p.m.
     Now THOSE are achievements!Lurono 10/15/11 1:39 a.m.
     "New" skull confirmed, and I looked up "Tsantsa."Gravemind 10/15/11 5:38 a.m.
           Re: "New" skull confirmed, and I looked up "TsantsStephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/15/11 9:25 a.m.
                 Re: "New" skull confirmed, and I looked up "TsantsFyreWulff 10/15/11 9:26 a.m.
                 Oooooohhhhhhhh.Gravemind 10/15/11 11:07 a.m.
           CSB timebluerunner 10/15/11 12:27 p.m.
     Are we forgetting?Bry 10/15/11 8:24 a.m.
           Re: Are we forgetting?Beckx 10/15/11 8:28 a.m.
                 Re: Are we forgetting?Bry 10/15/11 8:52 a.m.
                       I'll just hide behind NsUBeckx 10/15/11 8:55 a.m.
     Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!Azo 'Galvat 10/15/11 9:28 a.m.
     Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!Moorpheusl9 10/15/11 10:42 a.m.
           Actually - on second thoughts - *cancels preorder*Moorpheusl9 10/15/11 12:59 p.m.
     They missed one:Metalingus627 10/15/11 12:44 p.m.
           Re: They missed one:BlueNinja 10/15/11 5:11 p.m.
                 Re: They missed one:uberfoop 10/15/11 5:26 p.m.
                       Re: They missed one:BlueNinja 10/15/11 6:13 p.m.
                             Re: They missed one:uberfoop 10/15/11 6:19 p.m.
                             Re: They missed one:7he grunt w/a plasma pistol 10/15/11 6:22 p.m.
     Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!Rockslider 10/15/11 1:46 p.m.
           Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!uberfoop 10/15/11 4:30 p.m.
                 Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!Rockslider 10/15/11 5:26 p.m.
     Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!General Vagueness 10/15/11 4:24 p.m.
           Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!uberfoop 10/15/11 4:58 p.m.
                 Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!Rockslider 10/15/11 7:49 p.m.
           Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!Rockslider 10/15/11 7:12 p.m.
                 Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!General Vagueness 10/15/11 10:39 p.m.
                       Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!Rockslider 10/16/11 5:23 a.m.
                             Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!General Vagueness 10/16/11 7:58 p.m.
                                   Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!uberfoop 10/16/11 9:20 p.m.
                                         Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!General Vagueness 10/16/11 10:33 p.m.
                                               Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!ZackDark 10/16/11 10:40 p.m.
                                                     Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!General Vagueness 10/17/11 12:19 a.m.
                                                           Same...ZackDark 10/17/11 12:31 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Same...Gravemind 10/17/11 4:11 a.m.
                                         Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!Rockslider 10/17/11 2:26 a.m.
                                   Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!Rockslider 10/17/11 2:10 a.m.
                                         Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!uberfoop 10/17/11 1:46 p.m.
                                               Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!Rockslider 10/18/11 10:45 a.m.
     It's MISSING a Achievement! Challenge EnclosedSEspider 10/15/11 8:18 p.m.
     A question about one of the achievementsMoorpheusl9 10/17/11 7:38 a.m.
           Re: A question about one of the achievementsStephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/17/11 7:45 a.m.
                 Either way...RC Master 10/17/11 9:06 a.m.
                       Another question....bluerunner 10/17/11 9:15 a.m.
                             The cynic in me says....RC Master 10/17/11 4:55 p.m.
           2nd Half.Morpheus 10/17/11 9:34 a.m.
                 Re: 2nd Half.Moorpheusl9 10/17/11 9:36 a.m.
                 Re: 2nd Half.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/17/11 9:44 a.m.
                       Re: 2nd Half.Morpheus 10/17/11 11:04 a.m.
                             Re: 2nd Half.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/17/11 11:35 a.m.
                                   Re: 2nd Half.Moorpheusl9 10/17/11 11:39 a.m.
                                         Re: 2nd Half.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/17/11 1:09 p.m.
                                               Re: 2nd Half.uberfoop 10/17/11 3:43 p.m.
                                               Re: 2nd Half.Morpheus 10/19/11 8:37 a.m.



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