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Re: HBO, you have dissapointed me
Posted By: Flynn J TaggartDate: 3/4/11 6:20 a.m.

In Response To: Re: HBO, you have dissapointed me (Narcogen)


: Nobody needs to call you anything; they'd just be wise to recognize the fact
: that your personal habits don't constitute definitive and final advice on
: what games to develop. After all, if Blizzard had asked you beforehand,
: they'd have decided that World of Warcraft was a bad idea, since you don't
: want to pay fees for anything.

I'm abnormal, that's one thing we can all agree on. Blizzard also had many other successful MMOs to base their model on by the time they came to market. I'm sure for the die hards who follow Bungie into MMO subscription land (assuming that's the way they go), Bungie will make it worth your while if you're into that kind of thing.

: Ah, the flavor of the month. I find it amusing that Activision's admittedly
: obnoxious CEO is somehow able to generate nearly as much ill will for a
: mere publishing deal as Microsoft was able to with purchasing Bungie
: outright. Publishers only influence developers when they hold the
: purse-strings-- when the developer cannot pay its own way to complete a
: game, and is dependent on advances (Think DNF's final years.) I really
: doubt that is the case here. Activision is getting a cut to put boxes on
: the shelves and do marketing and promotion now that Bungie is independent
: of MS again. I seriously, seriously doubt that there's going to be undue
: influence on how Bungie develops that game, or what business model they
: use. If they do a subscription system, it'll be because that's what Bungie
: wants to do.

We'll see. Basically when I say "Activision", I mean the greedy side of big time game development and the exciting new ways to wrangle cash out of customers. I'm a Bungie fan but they sure do make strange bedfellows. I'm not familiar with other console MMOs and how they've worked in regards to subscriptions... I can only even think of something like Final Fantasy MMO.

: 360 and PS3 possibly. With the PC is not really practical unless there are
: asymmetric game modes, like mixed action and RTS elements-- either that,
: or you have to insist on PC players using a gamepad. I'd say the failure
: of Live for Windows demonstrates this.

Portal 2 for PS3 and PC will be cross platform multiplayer in a month or two here (forget when it's released), and will be a quasi-first person shooter. Granted it's not MMO, but there'll definitely be significant action going on there. I would be utterly shocked if Bungie managed to pull off something as huge as cross platform multiplayer between 360-PS3-PC.


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Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksInjunfett 3/3/11 7:17 p.m.
     Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksCody Miller 3/3/11 7:19 p.m.
           amazingly presumptuouskidtsunami 3/3/11 7:23 p.m.
                 Re: amazingly presumptuousMiguel Chavez 3/3/11 9:34 p.m.
                       Its already changing things.Injunfett 3/3/11 9:51 p.m.
                             Re: Its already changing things.JDQuackers 3/3/11 9:59 p.m.
                                   Public Education for ya! To tired for spell check. *NM*Injunfett 3/3/11 10:08 p.m.
           Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the workspete_the_duck 3/3/11 7:24 p.m.
           Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksDecommissioner 3/3/11 7:50 p.m.
                 Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksSonofMacPhisto 3/3/11 8:07 p.m.
                       Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksCody Miller 3/3/11 8:16 p.m.
                             Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksAvateur 3/3/11 8:19 p.m.
                                   Ever play Planetside?Leisandir 3/3/11 8:21 p.m.
                                         Re: Ever play Planetside?Avateur 3/3/11 8:24 p.m.
                                               Re: Ever play Planetside?Leisandir 3/3/11 9:18 p.m.
                                                     Re: Ever play Planetside?Avateur 3/3/11 9:32 p.m.
                                                           Re: Ever play Planetside?pete_the_duck 3/3/11 9:36 p.m.
                                                           Re: Ever play Planetside?Beckx 3/3/11 10:05 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Ever play Planetside?Decommissioner 3/3/11 10:18 p.m.
           Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksDruff 3/3/11 7:56 p.m.
           +1 *NM*Document 3/3/11 8:05 p.m.
           Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the workskornman00 3/3/11 8:42 p.m.
           Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksPhoenix_9286 3/3/11 10:13 p.m.
           Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksButtskunk 3/3/11 10:45 p.m.
     Bungie's never let me down beforeAvateur 3/3/11 8:10 p.m.
     This atleast explaina the Beta sign up *NM*The BS Police 3/3/11 8:18 p.m.
     Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksserpx 3/3/11 8:37 p.m.
     Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksmacgyver10 3/3/11 8:49 p.m.
           Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksZe Moose 3/4/11 4:33 a.m.
     Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksbentllama 3/3/11 9:10 p.m.
           I was JUST talking about that game...GrimBrother One 3/3/11 9:13 p.m.
                 Re: I was JUST talking about that game...Quirel 3/3/11 9:14 p.m.
                       Sorry, I meant "Where TF"...GrimBrother One 3/3/11 10:12 p.m.
           Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksDecommissioner 3/3/11 9:36 p.m.
     Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the workscaleb ex nihilo 3/3/11 9:42 p.m.
     Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksCaneCutter 3/3/11 10:00 p.m.
           Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the works?Hedgemony 3/3/11 10:18 p.m.
                 Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the works?CaneCutter 3/3/11 10:42 p.m.
     But will it be cross-platform?Joony Joon 3/3/11 10:07 p.m.
     A resounding "meh" *NM*Hawaiian Pig 3/3/11 10:37 p.m.
     I don't like MMOs hoping Bungie can change my mind *NM*Spec ops Grunt 3/3/11 10:53 p.m.
     Massively Multiplayer OnlineNsU Soldier 3/3/11 11:13 p.m.
     Not a shockPsychoRaven 3/3/11 11:38 p.m.
     So that's what I'm ignoring for the next ten years *NM*Azo 'Galvat 3/3/11 11:42 p.m.
     MMO I'm fine with, it's Activision that worries meGhaleonEB 3/4/11 12:36 a.m.
           Re: MMO I'm fine with, it's Activision that worrieNarcogen 3/4/11 1:01 a.m.
                 Re: MMO I'm fine with, it's Activision that worriegspawn 3/4/11 1:46 a.m.
                       Don't do it.Narcogen 3/4/11 5:43 a.m.
                       Re: MMO I'm fine with, it's Activision that worrieCody Miller 3/4/11 12:04 p.m.
                             Re: MMO I'm fine with, it's Activision that worrieRC Master 3/4/11 3:16 p.m.
                             Re: MMO I'm fine with, it's Activision that worrieNarcogen 3/4/11 11:43 p.m.
                                   Re: MMO I'm fine with, it's Activision that worrieLeisandir 3/5/11 8:29 a.m.
     HBO, you have dissapointed meImpervium 3/4/11 2:44 a.m.
           Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meexcowboy83 3/4/11 4:36 a.m.
           Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meFlynn J Taggart 3/4/11 5:17 a.m.
                 Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meNarcogen 3/4/11 5:52 a.m.
                       Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meFlynn J Taggart 3/4/11 6:20 a.m.
                             Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meNarcogen 3/4/11 11:14 p.m.
                       Re: HBO, you have dissapointed memnemesis 3/4/11 11:29 a.m.
                             Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meNarcogen 3/4/11 11:16 p.m.
                       Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meCody Miller 3/4/11 12:26 p.m.
                             Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meImpervium 3/4/11 1:07 p.m.
                                   Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meCody Miller 3/4/11 1:19 p.m.
                                         Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meSonofMacPhisto 3/4/11 1:27 p.m.
                                         Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meQuirel 3/4/11 1:28 p.m.
                                   Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meSonofMacPhisto 3/4/11 1:26 p.m.
                                         Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meLouis Wu 3/4/11 1:31 p.m.
                                               Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meCody Miller 3/4/11 1:36 p.m.
                                                     Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meLouis Wu 3/4/11 1:42 p.m.
                                                           Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meGeneral Vagueness 3/4/11 1:54 p.m.
                                                           Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meCody Miller 3/4/11 1:57 p.m.
                                                           Re: HBO, you have dissapointed mebluerunner 3/4/11 2:09 p.m.
                                                                 Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meManKitten 3/4/11 2:26 p.m.
                                                           Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meSonofMacPhisto 3/4/11 2:13 p.m.
                                               Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meSonofMacPhisto 3/4/11 2:17 p.m.
                                         My problem is ...T07WRX5 3/4/11 2:03 p.m.
                                               Re: My problem is ...Lurono 3/4/11 2:28 p.m.
                                                     Re: My problem is ...General Battuta 3/4/11 4:01 p.m.
                                                           Re: My problem is ...Beckx 3/4/11 4:25 p.m.
                                                                 Re: My problem is ...SonofMacPhisto 3/4/11 5:56 p.m.
                                                                       Re: My problem is ...Beckx 3/4/11 6:04 p.m.
                                                                             Re: My problem is ...SonofMacPhisto 3/4/11 6:14 p.m.
                             Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meNarcogen 3/4/11 11:20 p.m.
                                   Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meCody Miller 3/4/11 11:59 p.m.
                                         Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meNarcogen 3/11/11 1:13 a.m.
           Re: HBO, you have dissapointed meButtskunk 3/4/11 9:11 a.m.
           ^ThisRC Master 3/4/11 10:16 a.m.
                 Re: ^ThisJoony Joon 3/4/11 10:52 a.m.
     Some people Fear MMO games.DEEP NNN 3/4/11 6:28 a.m.
           Re: Some people Fear MMO games - not enough timeyakaman 3/4/11 8:46 a.m.
                 Re: Some people Fear MMO games - not enough timeJDQuackers 3/4/11 9:05 a.m.
                       Re: Some people Fear MMO games - not enough timeyakaman 3/4/11 1:14 p.m.
                 Re: Some people Fear MMO games - not enough timeLurono 3/4/11 1:04 p.m.
                       Re: Some people Fear MMO games - not enough timeyakaman 3/4/11 1:11 p.m.
                             Re: Some people Fear MMO games - not enough timeLurono 3/4/11 2:09 p.m.
                       Re: Some people Fear MMO games - not enough timeZe Moose 3/4/11 1:22 p.m.
                             Re: Some people Fear MMO games - not enough timeLurono 3/4/11 1:46 p.m.
     Sigh.BlueNinja 3/4/11 7:31 a.m.
     Yep, Activision/Bungie Isnt getting my $ for 10yrs *NM*T07WRX5 3/4/11 7:36 a.m.
     Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the workselessar787 3/4/11 9:57 a.m.
     Just for my own clarification...ManKitten 3/4/11 10:03 a.m.
           Re: Just for my own clarification...Louis Wu 3/4/11 10:11 a.m.
                 Re: Just for my own clarification...ManKitten 3/4/11 11:03 a.m.
                       Re: Just for my own clarification...Louis Wu 3/4/11 11:05 a.m.
                       Re: Just for my own clarification...Narcogen 3/4/11 11:30 p.m.
                             Re: Just for my own clarification...Leisandir 3/4/11 11:34 p.m.
                                   Re: Just for my own clarification...Narcogen 3/11/11 12:24 a.m.
                 Re: Just for my own clarification...Cody Miller 3/4/11 11:51 a.m.
                       Here's the thing about "MMOs"Hawaiian Pig 3/4/11 5:08 p.m.
                             Re: Here's the thing about "MMOs"Beckx 3/4/11 5:14 p.m.
                             Re: Here's the thing about "MMOs"Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/4/11 6:24 p.m.
                                   Whoa. Awesome. *opens google.* *NM*yakaman 3/5/11 10:09 a.m.
                                         Re: Whoa. Awesome. *opens google.*SonofMacPhisto 3/5/11 11:11 a.m.
                             That's a MythNarcogen 3/4/11 11:33 p.m.
                                   Re: That's a MythCody Miller 3/5/11 12:04 a.m.
           Re: Just for my own clarification...Narcogen 3/4/11 11:27 p.m.
     Well I'm excitedJillybean 3/4/11 11:30 a.m.
     Insufficient data for meaningful response.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/4/11 12:33 p.m.
           Re: Insufficient data for meaningful response.SonofMacPhisto 3/4/11 1:08 p.m.
                 Re:We'll see at E3 if the game really worth itCanineThewolvie 3/4/11 4:33 p.m.
                       Re:We'll see at E3 if the game really worth itHedgemony 3/4/11 4:54 p.m.
     Re: Its Official Bungie MMO in the worksGeneral Vagueness 3/4/11 12:35 p.m.
     I've never really played an MMO...Leviathan 3/4/11 12:55 p.m.
           Re: I've never really played an MMO...Ze Moose 3/4/11 1:10 p.m.
           Re: I've never really played an MMO...Quirel 3/4/11 1:46 p.m.
           Re: I've never really played an MMO...Beckx 3/4/11 1:57 p.m.
                 Re: I've never really played an MMO...Lurono 3/4/11 2:35 p.m.
           Chromehounds, Phantasy Star OnlineNsU Soldier 3/4/11 6:13 p.m.
                 Re: Chromehounds, Phantasy Star OnlineBeckx 3/4/11 6:32 p.m.



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