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Re: Different reaction
Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net>Date: 11/20/09 3:52 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Different reaction (Avateur)


: I really like this post. That makes me feel a lot better about all of this,
: and really does make it look like Bungie's the winning party here. I don't
: know. I'm a Bungie apologist, and I don't like seeing things done wrongly
: by Bungie. If it's a matter of Microsoft or Bungie paying for the
: marketing, then I think a lot of it could be handled better and made to
: plug the actual games. God forbid a live-action ODST short is made on top
: of something that shows how bad ass the game itself is. And if it's Spike
: paying Bungie or Microsoft, then I hope Bungie got a cut and I'm all for
: it. Why not get paid to put your baby's name in lights?

Frankly I don't think it is customary practice for any developer to get paid for promotional materials. If the publisher wants it, it is because the distributor wants it, which is because the retailer wants it, and if you don't help your retailers move product, product won't move, and you won't get paid.

Now, certainly the series of positive-feedback loops around the Halo franchise do short-circuit that a bit. Word of mouth is a great system of promotion, if you can get it to work for you, but it's hard to just summon up when people don't know you already. Halo games sell now because they're Halo, but only because the first Halo already was Halo. So it's perhaps less true in this case that Bungie really needs to cater to every whim of the Microsoft marketing operation, but less true doesn't mean false.

If Bungie wasn't making this sort of thing for Microsoft to put on Spike, they'd be making it themselves and putting it on the website-- and who's paying them for that?

Anger, Sadness & Envy Episode 11: Halo



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Reach Spike PremiereZaneZavin 11/18/09 10:29 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike Premiereserpx 11/18/09 10:35 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremieredCon V 11/18/09 10:42 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremiereGeneral Vagueness 11/18/09 10:45 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike Premiereoddworld 11/18/09 11:03 a.m.
     Different reactionAvateur 11/18/09 11:06 a.m.
           Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/18/09 11:07 a.m.
                 Re: Different reactionpete_the_duck 11/18/09 11:15 a.m.
           Re: Different reactionDani 11/18/09 11:12 a.m.
                 Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/18/09 11:22 a.m.
                       Re: Different reactionFyreWulff 11/18/09 11:42 a.m.
                             I can assure you...stan 11/18/09 11:45 a.m.
                                   Re: I can assure you...Chris101b 11/18/09 12:37 p.m.
                                         Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?Avateur 11/18/09 1:50 p.m.
                                               Re: Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?rolandk73 11/18/09 5:25 p.m.
                                               Re: Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?serpx 11/18/09 7:13 p.m.
                                                     Re: Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?Avateur 11/18/09 7:54 p.m.
                             Re: Different reactionsketchfactor 11/18/09 1:56 p.m.
                                   Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/18/09 2:08 p.m.
                                         Re: Different reactionLouis Wu 11/18/09 2:22 p.m.
                                               Re: Different reactionStephen L. (SoundEffect) 11/18/09 2:36 p.m.
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                                               Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/18/09 5:58 p.m.
                                                     Re: Different reactionMiguel Chavez 11/19/09 1:40 a.m.
                                                           Re: Different reactionAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 11/19/09 9:26 a.m.
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                                                           Re: Different reactionLeviathan 11/19/09 10:39 a.m.
                                                     Re: Different reactionnewguy2445 11/19/09 1:43 a.m.
                                                           Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/19/09 2:20 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Different reactionLouis Wu 11/19/09 3:09 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Different reactionnewguy2445 11/19/09 3:49 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Different reactionNarcogen 11/19/09 8:53 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/19/09 9:32 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Different reactionNarcogen 11/20/09 12:55 a.m.
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                                                                                               Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/20/09 1:38 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Different reactionHedgemony 11/20/09 1:52 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/20/09 2:00 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Different reactionNarcogen 11/20/09 3:46 a.m.
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                                                                                                                       Re: Different reactionBry 11/20/09 6:55 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Different reactionLouis Wu 11/20/09 5:52 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Different reactionHedgemony 11/20/09 6:20 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: Different reactionLouis Wu 11/20/09 7:04 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Different reactionChris101b 11/20/09 1:03 p.m.
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                                                                                                           Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/20/09 2:34 a.m.
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                                                                                               Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/20/09 1:48 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Different reactionNarcogen 11/20/09 3:52 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/20/09 4:07 a.m.
                       Re: Different reactionGeneral Vagueness 11/18/09 11:51 a.m.
           Re: Different reactionBry 11/18/09 12:27 p.m.
           Bad idearolandk73 11/18/09 12:55 p.m.
                 Re: Bad ideaBry 11/18/09 1:34 p.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremiereT07WRX5 11/18/09 11:08 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike Premiereelessar787 11/18/09 11:13 a.m.
           Re: Reach Spike PremiereSonofMacPhisto 11/18/09 11:27 a.m.
           Re: Reach Spike PremiereSpartan Jag 11/18/09 11:33 a.m.
     Re: GT VidCrab 11/18/09 11:28 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremiereFyreWulff 11/18/09 11:43 a.m.
           All Aboard! *NM*ZaneZavin 11/18/09 11:58 a.m.
     it's the opening levelElzarTheBam 11/18/09 1:42 p.m.
     Who thinks they'll cut to commercial?SPARTAN-034 11/18/09 3:14 p.m.
     Spike is in need of an EDITORrolandk73 11/18/09 4:14 p.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremiereGeneral Vagueness 11/19/09 10:04 a.m.
           Re: Reach Spike PremiereLouis Wu 11/19/09 10:38 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremiereGeoff Keighley 11/20/09 1:20 a.m.
           Re: Reach Spike PremiereAvateur 11/20/09 2:29 a.m.
                 Re: Reach Spike PremiereGeoff Keighley 11/20/09 11:14 a.m.
                       Where was wars then?rolandk73 11/20/09 11:26 a.m.
                             Re: Where was wars then?Leviathan 11/20/09 12:24 p.m.
                                   Re: Where was wars then?rolandk73 11/20/09 1:31 p.m.
                                         Re: Where was wars then?Leviathan 11/20/09 1:58 p.m.
                             Re: Where was wars then?Bry 11/20/09 1:37 p.m.
                                   Re: Where was wars then?rolandk73 11/20/09 1:49 p.m.
                                   Re: Where was wars then?Dani 11/20/09 2:04 p.m.
                             ^Give it up, Wars was crap. They made the right ca *NM*MasterChief2829 11/20/09 2:33 p.m.
                                   Re: ^Give it up, Wars was crap. They made the righFyreWulff 11/20/09 5:46 p.m.
                                         ^ Played it, I hate RTS games. Cutscenes were good *NM*MasterChief2829 11/20/09 7:08 p.m.
                                               Just because you hate it doesn't mean its bad. *NM*Riceatron 11/20/09 8:37 p.m.
                             Re: Where was wars then?Geoff Keighley 11/21/09 12:07 a.m.
           Needs more Def LeppardThe BS Police 11/20/09 2:40 p.m.
     Recapsketchfactor 11/20/09 1:54 p.m.
           Thanks!Avateur 11/20/09 2:03 p.m.
           ^^^SPOILERS^^^ *NM*urk 11/20/09 3:00 p.m.
                 There's a reason they call you jurk... *NM*Louis Wu 11/20/09 3:09 p.m.
           Re: Recapzofinda 11/20/09 4:32 p.m.
                 Re: RecapMetalingus627 11/20/09 4:55 p.m.
                       Re: Recapsketchfactor 11/20/09 5:11 p.m.
                             Riceatron *NM*Riceatron 11/20/09 5:19 p.m.
                                   FffffffffffffffffRiceatron 11/20/09 5:21 p.m.
                                         Re: Fffffffffffffffffvlad3163 11/20/09 5:53 p.m.
                             Re: RecapMetalingus627 11/20/09 11:23 p.m.
           Re: RecapHedgemony 11/20/09 6:42 p.m.
           Re: RecapRoss Mills 11/22/09 9:00 a.m.



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