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Re: Different reaction
Posted By: Avateur <avateur@gmail.com>Date: 11/19/09 2:20 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Different reaction (newguy2445)


: Because more is better than less? They can début it on the awards show and
: then put it on Waypoint... Which means they get combined viewership...

: And just because you find it to be some "garbage awards show" does
: not mean everybody who watches it finds it to be that way, and it doesn't
: necessarily effect anything, it's not like Bungie/MS is turning down a
: better option...

We don't know if they're turning down or not considering a better option. Like I said, in my opinion they could have plugged this on TV in a lot of better places, or even made one big special Bungie event and advertised for it all over the place for the same price they may have paid to do this at the Spike VGAs. Again, we don't know how much was spent, what alternatives were named (or not), or anything else. So it looks like a weak compromise or idea to me.

: Because the debut trailer isn't necessarily to hook new people into the Halo
: realm, that'll likely be left to the later trailers for example the
: Believe and ODST ads. I doubt much will be shown, and so I doubt what is
: shown could really hook in people who have never heard of Halo or Halo
: Reach.

The Believe and ODST ads, that were awesome, I loved, and showed absolutely nothing about the game. Didn't make anyone watching them say "Holy shit that game looks awesome! Those graphics, and that gameplay! Damn! I have GOT to go buy that!" Maybe they should be plugging a Halo movie. And if this isn't meant to hook in people who don't already know about any of this, then what was the point in the first place of even spending the who knows how much money to put it on TV? If it's just there to target people like us who are already quite aware, then they just wasted a boatload of cash that could have been used to market Reach better in the future.

And considering the game is practically a year away until release, showing this on Spike now still won't do much to keep it in the minds of players who aren't Halo-driven and are all about BioShock 2, Mass Effect 2, and any other big release coming out early. E3 is still the "main" time to do a huge reveal to a mass market, even on TV. E3 basically set up my "Christmas list" of games for the year, even though a lot have now been bumped to 2010, so now that list carries over. I'm pretty sure the majority of gamers feel the same way, otherwise E3 would have no purpose and wouldn't continue.

: Advertisements are generally about selling a product, sometimes they barely
: even touch upon what the product is / what it does. For the Halo series,
: I'd say that the trailers are to show people what the product is, the tv
: spots are just to hook new people in. Which I'd say they did quite
: effectively.

I agree. The TV spots absolutely hooked new people in quite effectively. Hands down. Putting this ad in the Spike VGAs? Coulda found a bigger audience and paid an equal amount (doesn't necessarily have to be a commercial during a football game), or paid a bit more for more mass market appeal.


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Reach Spike PremiereZaneZavin 11/18/09 10:29 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike Premiereserpx 11/18/09 10:35 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremieredCon V 11/18/09 10:42 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremiereGeneral Vagueness 11/18/09 10:45 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike Premiereoddworld 11/18/09 11:03 a.m.
     Different reactionAvateur 11/18/09 11:06 a.m.
           Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/18/09 11:07 a.m.
                 Re: Different reactionpete_the_duck 11/18/09 11:15 a.m.
           Re: Different reactionDani 11/18/09 11:12 a.m.
                 Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/18/09 11:22 a.m.
                       Re: Different reactionFyreWulff 11/18/09 11:42 a.m.
                             I can assure you...stan 11/18/09 11:45 a.m.
                                   Re: I can assure you...Chris101b 11/18/09 12:37 p.m.
                                         Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?Avateur 11/18/09 1:50 p.m.
                                               Re: Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?rolandk73 11/18/09 5:25 p.m.
                                               Re: Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?serpx 11/18/09 7:13 p.m.
                                                     Re: Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?Avateur 11/18/09 7:54 p.m.
                             Re: Different reactionsketchfactor 11/18/09 1:56 p.m.
                                   Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/18/09 2:08 p.m.
                                         Re: Different reactionLouis Wu 11/18/09 2:22 p.m.
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                                                                                   Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/20/09 1:15 a.m.
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                                                                                               Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/20/09 1:38 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Different reactionHedgemony 11/20/09 1:52 a.m.
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                                                                                                                       Re: Different reactionBry 11/20/09 6:55 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Different reactionLouis Wu 11/20/09 5:52 a.m.
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                       Re: Different reactionGeneral Vagueness 11/18/09 11:51 a.m.
           Re: Different reactionBry 11/18/09 12:27 p.m.
           Bad idearolandk73 11/18/09 12:55 p.m.
                 Re: Bad ideaBry 11/18/09 1:34 p.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremiereT07WRX5 11/18/09 11:08 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike Premiereelessar787 11/18/09 11:13 a.m.
           Re: Reach Spike PremiereSonofMacPhisto 11/18/09 11:27 a.m.
           Re: Reach Spike PremiereSpartan Jag 11/18/09 11:33 a.m.
     Re: GT VidCrab 11/18/09 11:28 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremiereFyreWulff 11/18/09 11:43 a.m.
           All Aboard! *NM*ZaneZavin 11/18/09 11:58 a.m.
     it's the opening levelElzarTheBam 11/18/09 1:42 p.m.
     Who thinks they'll cut to commercial?SPARTAN-034 11/18/09 3:14 p.m.
     Spike is in need of an EDITORrolandk73 11/18/09 4:14 p.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremiereGeneral Vagueness 11/19/09 10:04 a.m.
           Re: Reach Spike PremiereLouis Wu 11/19/09 10:38 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremiereGeoff Keighley 11/20/09 1:20 a.m.
           Re: Reach Spike PremiereAvateur 11/20/09 2:29 a.m.
                 Re: Reach Spike PremiereGeoff Keighley 11/20/09 11:14 a.m.
                       Where was wars then?rolandk73 11/20/09 11:26 a.m.
                             Re: Where was wars then?Leviathan 11/20/09 12:24 p.m.
                                   Re: Where was wars then?rolandk73 11/20/09 1:31 p.m.
                                         Re: Where was wars then?Leviathan 11/20/09 1:58 p.m.
                             Re: Where was wars then?Bry 11/20/09 1:37 p.m.
                                   Re: Where was wars then?rolandk73 11/20/09 1:49 p.m.
                                   Re: Where was wars then?Dani 11/20/09 2:04 p.m.
                             ^Give it up, Wars was crap. They made the right ca *NM*MasterChief2829 11/20/09 2:33 p.m.
                                   Re: ^Give it up, Wars was crap. They made the righFyreWulff 11/20/09 5:46 p.m.
                                         ^ Played it, I hate RTS games. Cutscenes were good *NM*MasterChief2829 11/20/09 7:08 p.m.
                                               Just because you hate it doesn't mean its bad. *NM*Riceatron 11/20/09 8:37 p.m.
                             Re: Where was wars then?Geoff Keighley 11/21/09 12:07 a.m.
           Needs more Def LeppardThe BS Police 11/20/09 2:40 p.m.
     Recapsketchfactor 11/20/09 1:54 p.m.
           Thanks!Avateur 11/20/09 2:03 p.m.
           ^^^SPOILERS^^^ *NM*urk 11/20/09 3:00 p.m.
                 There's a reason they call you jurk... *NM*Louis Wu 11/20/09 3:09 p.m.
           Re: Recapzofinda 11/20/09 4:32 p.m.
                 Re: RecapMetalingus627 11/20/09 4:55 p.m.
                       Re: Recapsketchfactor 11/20/09 5:11 p.m.
                             Riceatron *NM*Riceatron 11/20/09 5:19 p.m.
                                   FffffffffffffffffRiceatron 11/20/09 5:21 p.m.
                                         Re: Fffffffffffffffffvlad3163 11/20/09 5:53 p.m.
                             Re: RecapMetalingus627 11/20/09 11:23 p.m.
           Re: RecapHedgemony 11/20/09 6:42 p.m.
           Re: RecapRoss Mills 11/22/09 9:00 a.m.



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