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Re: Different reaction
Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net>Date: 11/20/09 1:35 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Different reaction (Avateur)


: I really hope so. If they aren't getting paid to release this stuff, that
: doesn't sit right with me. Wasn't H3 the first and only time Microsoft
: Xbox went into the black? You'd think incentives to Bungie would be
: "if you produce this trailer for us, we'll give you an awesome spiff
: for it." Hell, that would probably be cheaper than paying people to
: make live-action ODST commercials or Believe dioramas. I just don't like
: feeling that Bungie's getting used out of all of this.

I don't think anyone who actually knows the details will ever agree to divulge them, but Bungie pulled off something special by letting Microsoft swallow them, eating their lunch, and cutting their way out of the beast's belly from the inside to emerge largely unscathed, and by unscathed I mean with a reputation as a AAA maker of console first person shooters rather than as an RTS developer on the Mac, which is what they were before.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. Myth was and is awesome.

In the context of that, I think there's very little Microsoft could ask Bungie to do in the course of helping sell games published by Microsoft and developed by Bungie that would qualify as "getting used". If anyone's been used here, it's Microsoft, although clearly they don't think so.

This was the second time Bungie traded a franchise they were essentially done with for the resources they needed to go on and make something new. The funny part is that while MS paid lip service to the idea that their real interest when they buy studios is in people, rather than assets, ultimately they let the people go and kept the assets, which either means they're a lot more altruistic than anybody gives them credit for or else a great deal more cynical.

In short, I think MS can get a few Halo videos from Bungie now and again, and Bungie will still respect them in the morning. Or at least won't make a sad face over coffee.

Anger, Sadness & Envy Episode 11: Halo



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Reach Spike PremiereZaneZavin 11/18/09 10:29 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike Premiereserpx 11/18/09 10:35 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremieredCon V 11/18/09 10:42 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremiereGeneral Vagueness 11/18/09 10:45 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike Premiereoddworld 11/18/09 11:03 a.m.
     Different reactionAvateur 11/18/09 11:06 a.m.
           Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/18/09 11:07 a.m.
                 Re: Different reactionpete_the_duck 11/18/09 11:15 a.m.
           Re: Different reactionDani 11/18/09 11:12 a.m.
                 Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/18/09 11:22 a.m.
                       Re: Different reactionFyreWulff 11/18/09 11:42 a.m.
                             I can assure you...stan 11/18/09 11:45 a.m.
                                   Re: I can assure you...Chris101b 11/18/09 12:37 p.m.
                                         Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?Avateur 11/18/09 1:50 p.m.
                                               Re: Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?rolandk73 11/18/09 5:25 p.m.
                                               Re: Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?serpx 11/18/09 7:13 p.m.
                                                     Re: Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?Avateur 11/18/09 7:54 p.m.
                             Re: Different reactionsketchfactor 11/18/09 1:56 p.m.
                                   Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/18/09 2:08 p.m.
                                         Re: Different reactionLouis Wu 11/18/09 2:22 p.m.
                                               Re: Different reactionStephen L. (SoundEffect) 11/18/09 2:36 p.m.
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                                               Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/18/09 5:58 p.m.
                                                     Re: Different reactionMiguel Chavez 11/19/09 1:40 a.m.
                                                           Re: Different reactionAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 11/19/09 9:26 a.m.
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                                                                                               Re: Different reactionAvateur 11/20/09 1:38 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Different reactionHedgemony 11/20/09 1:52 a.m.
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                                                                                                           Re: Different reactionLouis Wu 11/20/09 5:52 a.m.
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                                                                                                           Re: Different reactionChris101b 11/20/09 1:03 p.m.
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                       Re: Different reactionGeneral Vagueness 11/18/09 11:51 a.m.
           Re: Different reactionBry 11/18/09 12:27 p.m.
           Bad idearolandk73 11/18/09 12:55 p.m.
                 Re: Bad ideaBry 11/18/09 1:34 p.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremiereT07WRX5 11/18/09 11:08 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike Premiereelessar787 11/18/09 11:13 a.m.
           Re: Reach Spike PremiereSonofMacPhisto 11/18/09 11:27 a.m.
           Re: Reach Spike PremiereSpartan Jag 11/18/09 11:33 a.m.
     Re: GT VidCrab 11/18/09 11:28 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremiereFyreWulff 11/18/09 11:43 a.m.
           All Aboard! *NM*ZaneZavin 11/18/09 11:58 a.m.
     it's the opening levelElzarTheBam 11/18/09 1:42 p.m.
     Who thinks they'll cut to commercial?SPARTAN-034 11/18/09 3:14 p.m.
     Spike is in need of an EDITORrolandk73 11/18/09 4:14 p.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremiereGeneral Vagueness 11/19/09 10:04 a.m.
           Re: Reach Spike PremiereLouis Wu 11/19/09 10:38 a.m.
     Re: Reach Spike PremiereGeoff Keighley 11/20/09 1:20 a.m.
           Re: Reach Spike PremiereAvateur 11/20/09 2:29 a.m.
                 Re: Reach Spike PremiereGeoff Keighley 11/20/09 11:14 a.m.
                       Where was wars then?rolandk73 11/20/09 11:26 a.m.
                             Re: Where was wars then?Leviathan 11/20/09 12:24 p.m.
                                   Re: Where was wars then?rolandk73 11/20/09 1:31 p.m.
                                         Re: Where was wars then?Leviathan 11/20/09 1:58 p.m.
                             Re: Where was wars then?Bry 11/20/09 1:37 p.m.
                                   Re: Where was wars then?rolandk73 11/20/09 1:49 p.m.
                                   Re: Where was wars then?Dani 11/20/09 2:04 p.m.
                             ^Give it up, Wars was crap. They made the right ca *NM*MasterChief2829 11/20/09 2:33 p.m.
                                   Re: ^Give it up, Wars was crap. They made the righFyreWulff 11/20/09 5:46 p.m.
                                         ^ Played it, I hate RTS games. Cutscenes were good *NM*MasterChief2829 11/20/09 7:08 p.m.
                                               Just because you hate it doesn't mean its bad. *NM*Riceatron 11/20/09 8:37 p.m.
                             Re: Where was wars then?Geoff Keighley 11/21/09 12:07 a.m.
           Needs more Def LeppardThe BS Police 11/20/09 2:40 p.m.
     Recapsketchfactor 11/20/09 1:54 p.m.
           Thanks!Avateur 11/20/09 2:03 p.m.
           ^^^SPOILERS^^^ *NM*urk 11/20/09 3:00 p.m.
                 There's a reason they call you jurk... *NM*Louis Wu 11/20/09 3:09 p.m.
           Re: Recapzofinda 11/20/09 4:32 p.m.
                 Re: RecapMetalingus627 11/20/09 4:55 p.m.
                       Re: Recapsketchfactor 11/20/09 5:11 p.m.
                             Riceatron *NM*Riceatron 11/20/09 5:19 p.m.
                                   FffffffffffffffffRiceatron 11/20/09 5:21 p.m.
                                         Re: Fffffffffffffffffvlad3163 11/20/09 5:53 p.m.
                             Re: RecapMetalingus627 11/20/09 11:23 p.m.
           Re: RecapHedgemony 11/20/09 6:42 p.m.
           Re: RecapRoss Mills 11/22/09 9:00 a.m.



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