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Re: Different reaction
Posted By: Avateur <avateur@gmail.com>	Date: 11/20/09 1:48 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Different reaction (Narcogen) : I don't think anyone who actually knows the details will ever agree to : divulge them, but Bungie pulled off something special by letting Microsoft : swallow them, eating their lunch, and cutting their way out of the beast's : belly from the inside to emerge largely unscathed, and by unscathed I mean : with a reputation as a AAA maker of console first person shooters rather : than as an RTS developer on the Mac, which is what they were before. : Not that there's anything wrong with that. Myth was and is awesome. : In the context of that, I think there's very little Microsoft could ask : Bungie to do in the course of helping sell games published by Microsoft : and developed by Bungie that would qualify as "getting used". If : anyone's been used here, it's Microsoft, although clearly they don't think : so. : This was the second time Bungie traded a franchise they were essentially done : with for the resources they needed to go on and make something new. The : funny part is that while MS paid lip service to the idea that their real : interest when they buy studios is in people, rather than assets, : ultimately they let the people go and kept the assets, which either means : they're a lot more altruistic than anybody gives them credit for or else a : great deal more cynical. : In short, I think MS can get a few Halo videos from Bungie now and again, and : Bungie will still respect them in the morning. Or at least won't make a : sad face over coffee. I really like this post. That makes me feel a lot better about all of this, and really does make it look like Bungie's the winning party here. I don't know. I'm a Bungie apologist, and I don't like seeing things done wrongly by Bungie. If it's a matter of Microsoft or Bungie paying for the marketing, then I think a lot of it could be handled better and made to plug the actual games. God forbid a live-action ODST short is made on top of something that shows how bad ass the game itself is. And if it's Spike paying Bungie or Microsoft, then I hope Bungie got a cut and I'm all for it. Why not get paid to put your baby's name in lights?

Message Index

Reach Spike Premiere	ZaneZavin	11/18/09 10:29 a.m.
Re: Reach Spike Premiere	serpx	11/18/09 10:35 a.m.
Re: Reach Spike Premiere	dCon V	11/18/09 10:42 a.m.
Re: Reach Spike Premiere	General Vagueness	11/18/09 10:45 a.m.
Re: Reach Spike Premiere	oddworld	11/18/09 11:03 a.m.
Different reaction	Avateur	11/18/09 11:06 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Avateur	11/18/09 11:07 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	pete_the_duck	11/18/09 11:15 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Dani	11/18/09 11:12 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Avateur	11/18/09 11:22 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	FyreWulff	11/18/09 11:42 a.m.
I can assure you...	stan	11/18/09 11:45 a.m.
Re: I can assure you...	Chris101b	11/18/09 12:37 p.m.
Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?	Avateur	11/18/09 1:50 p.m.
Re: Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?	rolandk73	11/18/09 5:25 p.m.
Re: Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?	serpx	11/18/09 7:13 p.m.
Re: Did everyone forget the Spike VGAs are trash?	Avateur	11/18/09 7:54 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	sketchfactor	11/18/09 1:56 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	Avateur	11/18/09 2:08 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	Louis Wu	11/18/09 2:22 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	11/18/09 2:36 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	sketchfactor	11/18/09 4:38 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	T51b	11/18/09 6:16 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	T51b	11/18/09 6:18 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	Hedgemony	11/18/09 6:28 p.m.
Wild...	stan	11/19/09 10:57 a.m.
Re: Wild...	T51b	11/19/09 12:25 p.m.
Re: Wild...	Louis Wu	11/19/09 1:28 p.m.
Re: Wild...	XMixMasterX	11/19/09 3:28 p.m.
Re: Wild...	Arkesane	11/20/09 3:49 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	Avateur	11/18/09 5:58 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	Miguel Chavez	11/19/09 1:40 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	11/19/09 9:26 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Bry	11/19/09 9:49 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Avateur	11/19/09 2:11 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	Leviathan	11/19/09 10:39 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	newguy2445	11/19/09 1:43 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Avateur	11/19/09 2:20 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	Louis Wu	11/19/09 3:09 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	newguy2445	11/19/09 3:49 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	Narcogen	11/19/09 8:53 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	Avateur	11/19/09 9:32 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	Narcogen	11/20/09 12:55 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Avateur	11/20/09 1:15 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Bry	11/20/09 1:23 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Avateur	11/20/09 1:38 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Hedgemony	11/20/09 1:52 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Avateur	11/20/09 2:00 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Narcogen	11/20/09 3:46 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Hedgemony	11/20/09 6:49 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Bry	11/20/09 6:55 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Louis Wu	11/20/09 5:52 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Hedgemony	11/20/09 6:20 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Louis Wu	11/20/09 7:04 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Chris101b	11/20/09 1:03 p.m.
Re: Different reaction	Bry	11/20/09 2:24 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Avateur	11/20/09 2:34 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Bry	11/20/09 2:46 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Narcogen	11/20/09 1:35 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Avateur	11/20/09 1:48 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Narcogen	11/20/09 3:52 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Avateur	11/20/09 4:07 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	General Vagueness	11/18/09 11:51 a.m.
Re: Different reaction	Bry	11/18/09 12:27 p.m.
Bad idea	rolandk73	11/18/09 12:55 p.m.
Re: Bad idea	Bry	11/18/09 1:34 p.m.
Re: Reach Spike Premiere	T07WRX5	11/18/09 11:08 a.m.
Re: Reach Spike Premiere	elessar787	11/18/09 11:13 a.m.
Re: Reach Spike Premiere	SonofMacPhisto	11/18/09 11:27 a.m.
Re: Reach Spike Premiere	Spartan Jag	11/18/09 11:33 a.m.
Re: GT Vid	Crab	11/18/09 11:28 a.m.
Re: Reach Spike Premiere	FyreWulff	11/18/09 11:43 a.m.
All Aboard! *NM*	ZaneZavin	11/18/09 11:58 a.m.
it's the opening level	ElzarTheBam	11/18/09 1:42 p.m.
Who thinks they'll cut to commercial?	SPARTAN-034	11/18/09 3:14 p.m.
Spike is in need of an EDITOR	rolandk73	11/18/09 4:14 p.m.
Re: Reach Spike Premiere	General Vagueness	11/19/09 10:04 a.m.
Re: Reach Spike Premiere	Louis Wu	11/19/09 10:38 a.m.
Re: Reach Spike Premiere	Geoff Keighley	11/20/09 1:20 a.m.
Re: Reach Spike Premiere	Avateur	11/20/09 2:29 a.m.
Re: Reach Spike Premiere	Geoff Keighley	11/20/09 11:14 a.m.
Where was wars then?	rolandk73	11/20/09 11:26 a.m.
Re: Where was wars then?	Leviathan	11/20/09 12:24 p.m.
Re: Where was wars then?	rolandk73	11/20/09 1:31 p.m.
Re: Where was wars then?	Leviathan	11/20/09 1:58 p.m.
Re: Where was wars then?	Bry	11/20/09 1:37 p.m.
Re: Where was wars then?	rolandk73	11/20/09 1:49 p.m.
Re: Where was wars then?	Dani	11/20/09 2:04 p.m.
^Give it up, Wars was crap. They made the right ca *NM*	MasterChief2829	11/20/09 2:33 p.m.
Re: ^Give it up, Wars was crap. They made the righ	FyreWulff	11/20/09 5:46 p.m.
^ Played it, I hate RTS games. Cutscenes were good *NM*	MasterChief2829	11/20/09 7:08 p.m.
Just because you hate it doesn't mean its bad. *NM*	Riceatron	11/20/09 8:37 p.m.
Re: Where was wars then?	Geoff Keighley	11/21/09 12:07 a.m.
Needs more Def Leppard	The BS Police	11/20/09 2:40 p.m.
Recap	sketchfactor	11/20/09 1:54 p.m.
Thanks!	Avateur	11/20/09 2:03 p.m.
^^^SPOILERS^^^ *NM*	urk	11/20/09 3:00 p.m.
There's a reason they call you jurk... *NM*	Louis Wu	11/20/09 3:09 p.m.
Re: Recap	zofinda	11/20/09 4:32 p.m.
Re: Recap	Metalingus627	11/20/09 4:55 p.m.
Re: Recap	sketchfactor	11/20/09 5:11 p.m.
Riceatron *NM*	Riceatron	11/20/09 5:19 p.m.
Fffffffffffffffff	Riceatron	11/20/09 5:21 p.m.
Re: Fffffffffffffffff	vlad3163	11/20/09 5:53 p.m.
Re: Recap	Metalingus627	11/20/09 11:23 p.m.
Re: Recap	Hedgemony	11/20/09 6:42 p.m.
Re: Recap	Ross Mills	11/22/09 9:00 a.m.