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Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...
Posted By: kapowaz <halo.bungie.org@kapowaz.net>	Date: 5/16/05 11:00 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"... (Count Zero) : "Intellectual property" is just an umbrella term for law regarding : valuable but intangible entities (patents, copyrights, trademarks) just : like "criminal" relates to acts involving specific breaches of : laws or codes (murder, theft, etc) and "tort" refers to disputes : between parties (trespass, slander/libel, negligence), and so on. : Attacking your opponent's terminology does not contribute to the debate, and : refusing to stand on common ground just makes it harder to argue against : the status quo. I can't see how this is true, given that intellectual property is an invented term created by corporations in the 1960s, and criminal and tort are terms of significantly greater age with origins in the judicial system. I would say that my point about misusing "intellectual property" in the original article was the crux of my complaint against it. That he was misunderstanding just what people were doing wrong (by his own definitions) highlighted how poor the term is, in any event. : Please don't bring up specific political issues. Straying into this territory : invites flamewars and locking. Granted, that can happen, but I was making an analogy which I thought worked reasonably well.

Message Index

Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	kapowaz	5/16/05 6:17 a.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	Flashman	5/16/05 6:47 a.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	kapowaz	5/16/05 7:26 a.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	Captain Spark	5/16/05 9:33 a.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	kapowaz	5/16/05 9:53 a.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	kapowaz	5/16/05 10:04 a.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	Sep7imus [subnova]	5/16/05 10:24 a.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	kapowaz	5/16/05 10:32 a.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	Sep7imus [subnova]	5/16/05 10:48 a.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	Count Zero	5/16/05 10:55 a.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	kapowaz	5/16/05 11:00 a.m.
Eh.	Louis Wu	5/16/05 7:28 a.m.
Re: Eh.	kapowaz	5/16/05 8:33 a.m.
Re: Eh.	Ma1agate	5/16/05 9:14 a.m.
Re: Eh.	kapowaz	5/16/05 9:33 a.m.
Re: Eh.	Louis Wu	5/16/05 9:59 a.m.
Oooh, rimshot! *NM* *NM*	The People	5/16/05 10:07 a.m.
Re: Eh.	kapowaz	5/16/05 10:23 a.m.
Re: Eh.	Ma1agate	5/16/05 10:27 a.m.
Re: Eh.	kapowaz	5/16/05 10:49 a.m.
"evil corporations"	mr_mcmurder	5/16/05 3:03 p.m.
Whoa, that's not what I said!	Flashman	5/16/05 4:55 p.m.
rationale for Copyright in the Constitution!!!	mr_mcmurder	5/16/05 6:30 p.m.
well you were doing ok for a while...	kapowaz	5/17/05 1:04 p.m.
Re: Whoa, that's not what I said!	kapowaz	5/17/05 12:52 p.m.
Where's the HTML gone? *NM*	kapowaz	5/17/05 1:16 p.m.
Re: Eh.	scarab	5/17/05 7:46 a.m.
Re: Eh.	kapowaz	5/17/05 1:12 p.m.
Re: Eh.	KP	5/16/05 9:22 a.m.
Re: Eh.	kapowaz	5/16/05 9:39 a.m.
Re: Eh.	Ma1agate	5/16/05 10:31 a.m.
The moral dilemmas of a fanfic author	Jillybean	5/16/05 10:38 a.m.
Re: The moral dilemmas of a fanfic author	kapowaz	5/16/05 10:55 a.m.
Re: The moral dilemmas of a fanfic author	Sep7imus [subnova]	5/16/05 11:01 a.m.
Re: The moral dilemmas of a fanfic author	kapowaz	5/16/05 11:08 a.m.
Re: The moral dilemmas of a fanfic author	Sep7imus [subnova]	5/16/05 1:09 p.m.
Re: The moral dilemmas of a fanfic author	Jillybean	5/16/05 11:08 a.m.
Re: The moral dilemmas of a fanfic author	Jillybean	5/16/05 11:05 a.m.
Re: The moral dilemmas of a fanfic author	ThorsHammer	5/16/05 12:07 p.m.
Re: The moral dilemmas of a fanfic author	Jillybean	5/16/05 1:30 p.m.
Re: The moral dilemmas of a fanfic author	mr_mcmurder	5/16/05 3:44 p.m.
Re: The moral dilemmas of a fanfic author	Gil Galahad	5/16/05 11:11 a.m.
She is so lucky/So why does she cry	Jillybean	5/16/05 11:16 a.m.
Re: The moral dilemmas of a fanfic author	mr_mcmurder	5/16/05 3:48 p.m.
Re: The moral dilemmas of a fanfic author	Gil Galahad	5/16/05 4:30 p.m.
Fair Use: Your fanfic is not illegal (law stuff)	mr_mcmurder	5/16/05 3:30 p.m.
Re: Fair Use: Your fanfic is not illegal (law stuf	Jillybean	5/16/05 3:36 p.m.
Re: Fair Use: Your fanfic is not illegal (law stuf	mr_mcmurder	5/16/05 3:52 p.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	Gil Galahad	5/16/05 10:56 a.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	kapowaz	5/16/05 11:05 a.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	Mattat	5/16/05 12:49 p.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	mr_mcmurder	5/16/05 3:55 p.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	Gil Galahad	5/16/05 4:36 p.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	Flashman	5/16/05 5:04 p.m.
Re: Halo Ripping and "Intellectual Property"...	kapowaz	5/17/05 1:15 p.m.
Of cars and software	ajenteks	5/16/05 3:56 p.m.
Re: Of cars and software	Gil Galahad	5/16/05 4:46 p.m.
Re: Of cars and software	ajenteks	5/16/05 5:38 p.m.
Re: Of cars and software	Gil Galahad	5/17/05 5:22 a.m.
Immatation is the sincerest form of flattery...	Gil Galahad	5/16/05 5:05 p.m.
Good artists copy; great artists steal. *NM*	kapowaz	5/17/05 1:06 p.m.
*OT* Lecturer censored for defending P2P networks	pile0nades	5/20/05 8:54 a.m.