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Re: BULLSEYE! | |
Posted By: Qonas <qonas1@excite.com> | Date: 12/1/04 10:41 p.m. |
In Response To: Re: BULLSEYE! (Siva Wr'k) The reason why the Halo 2 campaign feels different at a gut level is not because of the Arbiter, is not because the plot got even bigger, it is simply because there was no foreboding sense of universal danger. Think about it. "But Qonas, the delta Halo could've been fired! The Gravemind is one evil dude controlling the nigh-unstoppable Flood!" Yes, this is true. But what made the Halo campaign so much fun and immersive, that we forgot it was a video game while playing, was the fact that we (as Master Chief) were fighting for humanity's survival. We were one man, with a scattered band of Marines, against the overwhelming Covenant. There was a very real sense of danger, a sense that in the plot, should we fail Earth could be kissed goodbye. Humanity would be no more. We were fighting a one-man war for our people, and that struck some unconscious, gut-level desire. We got sucked in with that, and as the rich plot unfolded around that we became even more a part of the Halo universe. Now while the story for Halo 2 is bloody awesome and a great continuation of Halo, we don't have that same "one-man war" danger feeling anymore. We're on the offensive. Sure, we were salivating for it but c'mon, fighting with more than a .01% chance of winning isn't that much fun. While I in no way question or dislike the fact the Covenant "invasion" of Earth was one battle group jumping the gun, the fact that Earth and mankind was not in imminent, deathly danger caused the campaign to no longer "feel like Halo, but like any other video game". |
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A few deep breaths *SP* | ragereset | 11/30/04 1:19 a.m. |
True, true *NM* *NM* | 7h3_h0ck3y_w1z | 11/30/04 2:10 a.m. |
Re: more post-game carnage report | R.G. | 11/30/04 5:44 a.m. |
Re: more post-game carnage ^^^ *SP* above! ^^^ *NM* | R.G. | 11/30/04 5:50 a.m. |
Re: more post-game carnage report | ragereset | 12/1/04 6:13 a.m. |
Re: more post-game carnage report | Mr Sniggles | 12/1/04 5:39 p.m. |
Re: more post-game carnage report | Blitzwolf | 12/1/04 8:19 p.m. |
*chink* *NM* | rolando | 12/1/04 12:04 p.m. |
Re: more post-game carnage report | Viscily II | 12/1/04 3:41 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Kermit | 11/30/04 6:48 a.m. |
I Only Have a Couple Sentences to Say About This.. | Mintz08 | 11/30/04 7:31 a.m. |
Ditto, both. :) *NM* | Blitzwolf | 12/1/04 8:03 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Ross Mills [subnova] | 11/30/04 8:43 a.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Louis Wu | 11/30/04 10:57 a.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | ragereset | 11/30/04 12:59 p.m. |
Agreed. | MikeMan445 | 11/30/04 6:19 p.m. |
Re: Agreed. | box | 12/1/04 11:58 a.m. |
BULLSEYE! | Siva Wr'k | 12/1/04 1:41 p.m. |
Re: BULLSEYE! | Siva Wr'k | 12/1/04 1:44 p.m. |
Re: BULLSEYE! | Qonas | 12/1/04 10:41 p.m. |
Couldn't have said it better myself *NM* *NM* | box | 12/2/04 10:21 a.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Wado SG | 11/30/04 4:38 p.m. |
Yes, agreed. Too much story in one game to digest *NM* | Siva Wr'k | 12/1/04 1:47 p.m. |
Re: Yes, agreed. Too much story in one game to dig | Qonas | 12/2/04 4:41 p.m. |
Hmm... *SP* | Saint [lpn] | 11/30/04 8:05 p.m. |
EVERYTHING and BETTER | SuddenDark.com | 12/1/04 11:45 a.m. |
Re: EVERYTHING and BETTER | El Bastard | 12/1/04 11:50 a.m. |
Re: EVERYTHING and BETTER | SuddenDark.com | 12/1/04 1:08 p.m. |
Re: EVERYTHING and BETTER | mercury | 12/1/04 4:34 p.m. |
YES, YES, YES! | Blitzwolf | 12/1/04 10:08 p.m. |
Re: Why I think that happened *pseudo-review* *SP* | ThorsHammer | 11/30/04 10:41 p.m. |
Re: Why I think that happened *pseudo-review* *SP* | Sep7imus [subnova] | 12/1/04 9:47 a.m. |
Only on Xbox | ragereset | 12/1/04 1:03 p.m. |
What I felt was missing: | ChiperSoft | 12/1/04 12:46 p.m. |
Extension on that... | axman | 12/1/04 1:07 p.m. |
Bingo. *NM* | Siva Wr'k | 12/1/04 1:52 p.m. |
Re: Extension on that... | box | 12/1/04 8:04 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | FriendlyFire | 12/1/04 8:35 a.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Capain Spark | 12/1/04 10:50 a.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Capo Rip | 12/1/04 6:44 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | TD MasterChief | 12/1/04 11:09 a.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | El Bastard | 12/1/04 11:18 a.m. |
the 'seek not to conquer.." factor...? | Zaknafein | 12/1/04 2:05 p.m. |
Re: the 'seek not to conquer.." factor...? | Sep7imus [subnova] | 12/1/04 2:59 p.m. |
My sentiments exactly. Well said. =D *NM* | Zaknafein | 12/1/04 3:42 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Stuart | 12/1/04 2:25 p.m. |
Remember where in the game you enjoyed it the most | MthdDirector | 12/1/04 2:26 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Viscily II | 12/1/04 4:15 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | 'Nosolee | 12/1/04 5:33 p.m. |
I think, I've figured out what's missing. *SP* | Blitzwolf | 12/1/04 8:43 p.m. |
Re: I think, I've figured out what's missing. *SP* | igniter | 12/1/04 11:17 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Ducain | 12/1/04 10:13 p.m. |
Re: Analog plasma pistol | ragereset | 12/1/04 11:09 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | ThorsHammer | 12/1/04 11:15 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* True! | Ducain | 12/2/04 3:51 p.m. |
I just can't help but point out.... | Konrad | 12/2/04 8:27 p.m. |
Burn. *NM* | Zero Flaw (E Nomini Patri) | 12/2/04 8:35 p.m. |
bad second quote | gspawn | 12/2/04 8:39 p.m. |
Re: Of Repetition *SP* | Sep7imus [subnova] | 11/30/04 5:06 p.m. |
my two cents. *sp* | B-Sharp | 11/30/04 6:34 p.m. |
Two more cents | ragereset | 11/30/04 11:14 p.m. |
Re: Two more cents to your two more cents | paladin2007 | 12/1/04 11:24 a.m. |
Re: Two more cents | chaosknight514 | 12/1/04 4:36 p.m. |
Something else to think about... | B-Sharp | 12/1/04 4:59 p.m. |
My Opinion | jac170sd | 12/1/04 4:48 p.m. |
Re: My Opinion | B-Sharp | 12/1/04 5:46 p.m. |
I have a few legitimate critiques | Noir | 12/1/04 10:25 a.m. |
Another $0.02 | Smitty | 12/1/04 2:41 p.m. |
keep taking those deep breaths | MasterGrunt_Yayap-117 | 12/1/04 10:50 a.m. |
Re: keep taking those deep breaths | bungiefan | 12/1/04 11:35 a.m. |
Deep breaths - vitriol free. | Dazza | 12/1/04 11:30 a.m. |
Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free. | Sep7imus [subnova] | 12/1/04 11:41 a.m. |
Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free. | Dazza | 12/1/04 11:46 a.m. |
Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free. | Sep7imus [subnova] | 12/1/04 11:49 a.m. |
Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free. | Dazza | 12/1/04 11:51 a.m. |
Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free. | Capain Spark | 12/1/04 11:55 a.m. |
What do/did we want from Halo 2.. and forH3 *long* | 3Suns | 12/2/04 9:15 p.m. |
Noteable "community" figures | WRATHofGOD | 12/1/04 1:10 p.m. |
Hrm... | El Bastard | 12/1/04 1:54 p.m. |
Re: Hrm... | GhaleonEB | 12/1/04 2:44 p.m. |
Re: Hrm... | WRATHofGOD | 12/1/04 3:49 p.m. |
Re: Noteable "community" figs & rampant fanboism | R.G. | 12/1/04 4:30 p.m. |
Sounds like someone has a bone to pick. :) | Louis Wu | 12/1/04 7:27 p.m. |
Re: Sounds like someone has a bone to pick. :) | WRATHofGOD | 12/2/04 7:57 a.m. |
Re: Noteable "community" figures | Capo Rip | 12/2/04 1:39 a.m. |
A great but imperfect game | FoolsRun | 12/1/04 2:53 p.m. |
Said perfectly! Minor gripes from me below! *NM* | Jamirus99 | 12/1/04 3:28 p.m. |
Re: A great but imperfect game | bungiefan | 12/1/04 3:30 p.m. |
The sum of its parts are greater than the whole | FoolsRun | 12/1/04 5:34 p.m. |
Great post! True, this will make Halo 3 better. *NM* | Siva Wr'k | 12/1/04 4:08 p.m. |
Re: A great but imperfect game | Inky | 12/1/04 9:57 p.m. |
Excellent Review. thanks for posting it. *NM* | R.G. | 12/2/04 12:51 a.m. |
A Final Note to Bungie | Vadcol | 12/2/04 12:53 a.m. |
My thoughts on Halo 2 (To boot) *SP* | Jamirus99 | 12/1/04 3:23 p.m. |
Better the second time around | KilgoreTrout XL | 12/1/04 3:25 p.m. |
Absolutely Brilliant. I Totally Agree... *NM* | Bluestone | 12/1/04 3:42 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Capo Rip | 12/1/04 4:07 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Arc | 12/1/04 5:10 p.m. |
So true... | Capo Rip | 12/1/04 6:18 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Seraph | 12/1/04 5:09 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | MthdDirector | 12/1/04 7:10 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Hieros | 12/1/04 5:58 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | comicbookguy | 12/1/04 6:19 p.m. |
in regard to MP *img* | retsamolah | 12/1/04 6:49 p.m. |
Not All the Way, Spray and Pray: | Jamirus99 | 12/1/04 7:43 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Knight Premier | 12/1/04 6:53 p.m. |
it's smarter than me | spaartan117 | 12/1/04 7:43 p.m. |
Randy Glass and Halo 2 haters | Bey Bey Bey | 12/1/04 7:48 p.m. |
Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 haters | Sep7imus [subnova] | 12/1/04 8:16 p.m. |
Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 haters | R.G. | 12/1/04 11:13 p.m. |
OK, I'm done, gotta call it a nite | Miguel Chavez | 12/2/04 1:16 a.m. |
Ditto,... | Ross Mills [subnova] | 12/2/04 8:12 a.m. |
Auteur! Auteur! Magnifique! *NM* | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 12/2/04 7:53 a.m. |
Re: Bravo! *NM* | Sep7imus [subnova] | 12/2/04 9:01 a.m. |
Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 haters | Qonas | 12/2/04 4:43 p.m. |
Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 haters | Mothergoat | 12/3/04 8:47 a.m. |
what everyone should do is... | fludblud | 12/2/04 7:08 a.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Dundre | 12/1/04 8:44 p.m. |
All I want for christmas | Trevor Austin | 12/1/04 9:47 p.m. |
I think that we're out of focus here. | *THASF* A.K.A. The Halo and Sonic Fan | 12/1/04 10:17 p.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Traize | 12/2/04 7:49 a.m. |
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* | Chaka | 12/2/04 7:03 p.m. |
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