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Deep breaths - vitriol free.
Posted By: Dazza	Date: 12/1/04 11:30 a.m.
In Response To: A few deep breaths *SP* (ragereset) Wow! It's been quite incredible to see the views expressed by people about Halo 2 since release. Some harsh words. Some great words of praise. But I think one question asked by many long-time fans of the game is - what is missing from Halo 2? That's the question, isn't it? Because most people agree that it is a great game but not a GREAT game. I imagine people remember that quote about 30 seconds of fun repeated over and over? That's precisely the problem - Halo 2 doesn't let you or the game breathe. Halo 2 is one battle after another with no chance to admire any of the detail of the game - it passes in a blur. Halo doesn't do this. For example - when you crash land on Halo in the original there is time to take in the splendour, see the waterfall, cross that bridge, look up at sky, marvel at the ring's arc - and all before the hordes descend. And even when you have cleared them there is still time to savour things. There is a relentlessness in Halo 2 that is not tied to any specific reason other than the pace of the game itself. When you encounter the first ever structure in Halo and the waves and waves of dropships come in the pace of the game is dictated by saving the crew members or running from one side of that base to the other. In Halo 2 there is a sense of being hurried along from one event to the next. People have commented on the fantastic comments the marines make - I hardly hear any of them because I'm shuffled on to the next battle. The much vaunted plot has disappointed many. Is this because there is too much plot detail? Halo inspired so many people because it created a believable framework which allowed fans to invest in and embroider. Halo 2 is so rammed with plot lines and storylines that the actual action can seem to sag and buckle. It's also clear from the DVD that Bungie struggled to articulate its vision for the game. So what are we left with? For my money the best video game ever made. Yes Halo's single player has a majesty that Halo 2 falls short of. But when you add in the multiplayer options it is a game with more to offer than any other I can think of.

Message Index

A few deep breaths *SP*	ragereset	11/30/04 1:19 a.m.
True, true *NM* *NM*	7h3_h0ck3y_w1z	11/30/04 2:10 a.m.
Re: more post-game carnage report	R.G.	11/30/04 5:44 a.m.
Re: more post-game carnage ^^^ *SP* above! ^^^ *NM*	R.G.	11/30/04 5:50 a.m.
Re: more post-game carnage report	ragereset	12/1/04 6:13 a.m.
Re: more post-game carnage report	Mr Sniggles	12/1/04 5:39 p.m.
Re: more post-game carnage report	Blitzwolf	12/1/04 8:19 p.m.
*chink* *NM*	rolando	12/1/04 12:04 p.m.
Re: more post-game carnage report	Viscily II	12/1/04 3:41 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Kermit	11/30/04 6:48 a.m.
I Only Have a Couple Sentences to Say About This..	Mintz08	11/30/04 7:31 a.m.
Ditto, both. :) *NM*	Blitzwolf	12/1/04 8:03 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Ross Mills [subnova]	11/30/04 8:43 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Louis Wu	11/30/04 10:57 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	ragereset	11/30/04 12:59 p.m.
Agreed.	MikeMan445	11/30/04 6:19 p.m.
Re: Agreed.	box	12/1/04 11:58 a.m.
BULLSEYE!	Siva Wr'k	12/1/04 1:41 p.m.
Re: BULLSEYE!	Siva Wr'k	12/1/04 1:44 p.m.
Re: BULLSEYE!	Qonas	12/1/04 10:41 p.m.
Couldn't have said it better myself *NM* *NM*	box	12/2/04 10:21 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Wado SG	11/30/04 4:38 p.m.
Yes, agreed. Too much story in one game to digest *NM*	Siva Wr'k	12/1/04 1:47 p.m.
Re: Yes, agreed. Too much story in one game to dig	Qonas	12/2/04 4:41 p.m.
Hmm... *SP*	Saint [lpn]	11/30/04 8:05 p.m.
EVERYTHING and BETTER	SuddenDark.com	12/1/04 11:45 a.m.
Re: EVERYTHING and BETTER	El Bastard	12/1/04 11:50 a.m.
Re: EVERYTHING and BETTER	SuddenDark.com	12/1/04 1:08 p.m.
Re: EVERYTHING and BETTER	mercury	12/1/04 4:34 p.m.
YES, YES, YES!	Blitzwolf	12/1/04 10:08 p.m.
Re: Why I think that happened *pseudo-review* *SP*	ThorsHammer	11/30/04 10:41 p.m.
Re: Why I think that happened *pseudo-review* *SP*	Sep7imus [subnova]	12/1/04 9:47 a.m.
Only on Xbox	ragereset	12/1/04 1:03 p.m.
What I felt was missing:	ChiperSoft	12/1/04 12:46 p.m.
Extension on that...	axman	12/1/04 1:07 p.m.
Bingo. *NM*	Siva Wr'k	12/1/04 1:52 p.m.
Re: Extension on that...	box	12/1/04 8:04 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	FriendlyFire	12/1/04 8:35 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Capain Spark	12/1/04 10:50 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Capo Rip	12/1/04 6:44 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	TD MasterChief	12/1/04 11:09 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	El Bastard	12/1/04 11:18 a.m.
the 'seek not to conquer.." factor...?	Zaknafein	12/1/04 2:05 p.m.
Re: the 'seek not to conquer.." factor...?	Sep7imus [subnova]	12/1/04 2:59 p.m.
My sentiments exactly. Well said. =D *NM*	Zaknafein	12/1/04 3:42 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Stuart	12/1/04 2:25 p.m.
Remember where in the game you enjoyed it the most	MthdDirector	12/1/04 2:26 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Viscily II	12/1/04 4:15 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	'Nosolee	12/1/04 5:33 p.m.
I think, I've figured out what's missing. *SP*	Blitzwolf	12/1/04 8:43 p.m.
Re: I think, I've figured out what's missing. *SP*	igniter	12/1/04 11:17 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Ducain	12/1/04 10:13 p.m.
Re: Analog plasma pistol	ragereset	12/1/04 11:09 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	ThorsHammer	12/1/04 11:15 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* True!	Ducain	12/2/04 3:51 p.m.
I just can't help but point out....	Konrad	12/2/04 8:27 p.m.
Burn. *NM*	Zero Flaw (E Nomini Patri)	12/2/04 8:35 p.m.
bad second quote	gspawn	12/2/04 8:39 p.m.
Re: Of Repetition *SP*	Sep7imus [subnova]	11/30/04 5:06 p.m.
my two cents. *sp*	B-Sharp	11/30/04 6:34 p.m.
Two more cents	ragereset	11/30/04 11:14 p.m.
Re: Two more cents to your two more cents	paladin2007	12/1/04 11:24 a.m.
Re: Two more cents	chaosknight514	12/1/04 4:36 p.m.
Something else to think about...	B-Sharp	12/1/04 4:59 p.m.
My Opinion	jac170sd	12/1/04 4:48 p.m.
Re: My Opinion	B-Sharp	12/1/04 5:46 p.m.
I have a few legitimate critiques	Noir	12/1/04 10:25 a.m.
Another $0.02	Smitty	12/1/04 2:41 p.m.
keep taking those deep breaths	MasterGrunt_Yayap-117	12/1/04 10:50 a.m.
Re: keep taking those deep breaths	bungiefan	12/1/04 11:35 a.m.
Deep breaths - vitriol free.	Dazza	12/1/04 11:30 a.m.
Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free.	Sep7imus [subnova]	12/1/04 11:41 a.m.
Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free.	Dazza	12/1/04 11:46 a.m.
Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free.	Sep7imus [subnova]	12/1/04 11:49 a.m.
Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free.	Dazza	12/1/04 11:51 a.m.
Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free.	Capain Spark	12/1/04 11:55 a.m.
What do/did we want from Halo 2.. and forH3 *long*	3Suns	12/2/04 9:15 p.m.
Noteable "community" figures	WRATHofGOD	12/1/04 1:10 p.m.
Hrm...	El Bastard	12/1/04 1:54 p.m.
Re: Hrm...	GhaleonEB	12/1/04 2:44 p.m.
Re: Hrm...	WRATHofGOD	12/1/04 3:49 p.m.
Re: Noteable "community" figs & rampant fanboism	R.G.	12/1/04 4:30 p.m.
Sounds like someone has a bone to pick. :)	Louis Wu	12/1/04 7:27 p.m.
Re: Sounds like someone has a bone to pick. :)	WRATHofGOD	12/2/04 7:57 a.m.
Re: Noteable "community" figures	Capo Rip	12/2/04 1:39 a.m.
A great but imperfect game	FoolsRun	12/1/04 2:53 p.m.
Said perfectly! Minor gripes from me below! *NM*	Jamirus99	12/1/04 3:28 p.m.
Re: A great but imperfect game	bungiefan	12/1/04 3:30 p.m.
The sum of its parts are greater than the whole	FoolsRun	12/1/04 5:34 p.m.
Great post! True, this will make Halo 3 better. *NM*	Siva Wr'k	12/1/04 4:08 p.m.
Re: A great but imperfect game	Inky	12/1/04 9:57 p.m.
Excellent Review. thanks for posting it. *NM*	R.G.	12/2/04 12:51 a.m.
A Final Note to Bungie	Vadcol	12/2/04 12:53 a.m.
My thoughts on Halo 2 (To boot) *SP*	Jamirus99	12/1/04 3:23 p.m.
Better the second time around	KilgoreTrout XL	12/1/04 3:25 p.m.
Absolutely Brilliant. I Totally Agree... *NM*	Bluestone	12/1/04 3:42 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Capo Rip	12/1/04 4:07 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Arc	12/1/04 5:10 p.m.
So true...	Capo Rip	12/1/04 6:18 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Seraph	12/1/04 5:09 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	MthdDirector	12/1/04 7:10 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Hieros	12/1/04 5:58 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	comicbookguy	12/1/04 6:19 p.m.
in regard to MP *img*	retsamolah	12/1/04 6:49 p.m.
Not All the Way, Spray and Pray:	Jamirus99	12/1/04 7:43 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Knight Premier	12/1/04 6:53 p.m.
it's smarter than me	spaartan117	12/1/04 7:43 p.m.
Randy Glass and Halo 2 haters	Bey Bey Bey	12/1/04 7:48 p.m.
Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 haters	Sep7imus [subnova]	12/1/04 8:16 p.m.
Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 haters	R.G.	12/1/04 11:13 p.m.
OK, I'm done, gotta call it a nite	Miguel Chavez	12/2/04 1:16 a.m.
Ditto,...	Ross Mills [subnova]	12/2/04 8:12 a.m.
Auteur! Auteur! Magnifique! *NM*	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	12/2/04 7:53 a.m.
Re: Bravo! *NM*	Sep7imus [subnova]	12/2/04 9:01 a.m.
Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 haters	Qonas	12/2/04 4:43 p.m.
Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 haters	Mothergoat	12/3/04 8:47 a.m.
what everyone should do is...	fludblud	12/2/04 7:08 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Dundre	12/1/04 8:44 p.m.
All I want for christmas	Trevor Austin	12/1/04 9:47 p.m.
I think that we're out of focus here.	*THASF* A.K.A. The Halo and Sonic Fan	12/1/04 10:17 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Traize	12/2/04 7:49 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Chaka	12/2/04 7:03 p.m.