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Re: A few deep breaths *SP*
Posted By: Stuart	Date: 12/1/04 2:25 p.m.
In Response To: Re: A few deep breaths *SP* (Louis Wu) :... - I think that's because it's really hard to pin down what's :wrong. It's not any one thing - it's a feeling. I once saw/heard Stephen King talking about what makes something scary. It wasn't the writter, but instead the imagination. He commented that the imagination was capable of some very "grusome" things and its true. Example: Jaws wasn't scary becasue you could see the shark. What does this have to do with Halo 2 and this "feeling"? The feeling I think is the remains of our imagination not being fullfilled by reality. It never could have been fullfilled as that is not the way things work. The opposite is only true where reality can only be fulfilled by our imagination. Its a paradox and a rule that the hype of Halo 2 did not follow. Fundamentally all the hype took place in our minds. Information on halo 2 was limited. Bungie only gave us little tid bits and our imaginations ran with it. The problem occurs in reality where the requirements of our imagination can never be fulfilled. Reality is limited by such things as time, money, pain, etc. The only thing that can take place successfully is the opposite where the imagination fulfills the requirements of reality. This is exactly where Halo CE differed from Halo 2. HaloCE came first supplying only vague information and leaving behind only questions not answers. Our imagination then tried to fill in the holes thus, a popular game was born. This is how we as humans like things to work. It creates tension and excitement outside of reality and let's face it, reality sucks. We live day to day not facing the facts of life so as to make life easier. It's the Victorian way. Not trying to get too lofty here : ), but we escape into video games or alternate realities as one way to accomplish this. It is the modivating factor for making games. One of the most popular things to do during the Great Depression was to see a movie, yet people had very little money. So here is where my thesis is restated and I draw it all to a conclusion: HaloCE, the actual game first exsisted in reality and became popular in our imaginations. On the other hand, Halo 2 first exsisted in our imaginations and then secondly in reality. This is not the formula for success as we desire to be delivered away from reality, not to it. This is where Halo 2 went wrong. Overall it is a good game, but it forced us to face reality as it worked backwards through the formula. This problem has left us with this "feeling", the "feeling" you have about your own true reality. I hope that this does not make everyone angery, but instead allows them to see the beauty in experiencing something that they don't usually experience. One more thing: People who currently are focused on criticising or pointing out ONLY certain technicalities and not this overall major effect of the hype are only still in denial. Reality is, simply a hard thing to deal with. Suggested reading; Albert Camus's "The Stranger".

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A few deep breaths *SP*	ragereset	11/30/04 1:19 a.m.
True, true *NM* *NM*	7h3_h0ck3y_w1z	11/30/04 2:10 a.m.
Re: more post-game carnage report	R.G.	11/30/04 5:44 a.m.
Re: more post-game carnage ^^^ *SP* above! ^^^ *NM*	R.G.	11/30/04 5:50 a.m.
Re: more post-game carnage report	ragereset	12/1/04 6:13 a.m.
Re: more post-game carnage report	Mr Sniggles	12/1/04 5:39 p.m.
Re: more post-game carnage report	Blitzwolf	12/1/04 8:19 p.m.
*chink* *NM*	rolando	12/1/04 12:04 p.m.
Re: more post-game carnage report	Viscily II	12/1/04 3:41 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Kermit	11/30/04 6:48 a.m.
I Only Have a Couple Sentences to Say About This..	Mintz08	11/30/04 7:31 a.m.
Ditto, both. :) *NM*	Blitzwolf	12/1/04 8:03 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Ross Mills [subnova]	11/30/04 8:43 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Louis Wu	11/30/04 10:57 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	ragereset	11/30/04 12:59 p.m.
Agreed.	MikeMan445	11/30/04 6:19 p.m.
Re: Agreed.	box	12/1/04 11:58 a.m.
BULLSEYE!	Siva Wr'k	12/1/04 1:41 p.m.
Re: BULLSEYE!	Siva Wr'k	12/1/04 1:44 p.m.
Re: BULLSEYE!	Qonas	12/1/04 10:41 p.m.
Couldn't have said it better myself *NM* *NM*	box	12/2/04 10:21 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Wado SG	11/30/04 4:38 p.m.
Yes, agreed. Too much story in one game to digest *NM*	Siva Wr'k	12/1/04 1:47 p.m.
Re: Yes, agreed. Too much story in one game to dig	Qonas	12/2/04 4:41 p.m.
Hmm... *SP*	Saint [lpn]	11/30/04 8:05 p.m.
EVERYTHING and BETTER	SuddenDark.com	12/1/04 11:45 a.m.
Re: EVERYTHING and BETTER	El Bastard	12/1/04 11:50 a.m.
Re: EVERYTHING and BETTER	SuddenDark.com	12/1/04 1:08 p.m.
Re: EVERYTHING and BETTER	mercury	12/1/04 4:34 p.m.
YES, YES, YES!	Blitzwolf	12/1/04 10:08 p.m.
Re: Why I think that happened *pseudo-review* *SP*	ThorsHammer	11/30/04 10:41 p.m.
Re: Why I think that happened *pseudo-review* *SP*	Sep7imus [subnova]	12/1/04 9:47 a.m.
Only on Xbox	ragereset	12/1/04 1:03 p.m.
What I felt was missing:	ChiperSoft	12/1/04 12:46 p.m.
Extension on that...	axman	12/1/04 1:07 p.m.
Bingo. *NM*	Siva Wr'k	12/1/04 1:52 p.m.
Re: Extension on that...	box	12/1/04 8:04 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	FriendlyFire	12/1/04 8:35 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Capain Spark	12/1/04 10:50 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Capo Rip	12/1/04 6:44 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	TD MasterChief	12/1/04 11:09 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	El Bastard	12/1/04 11:18 a.m.
the 'seek not to conquer.." factor...?	Zaknafein	12/1/04 2:05 p.m.
Re: the 'seek not to conquer.." factor...?	Sep7imus [subnova]	12/1/04 2:59 p.m.
My sentiments exactly. Well said. =D *NM*	Zaknafein	12/1/04 3:42 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Stuart	12/1/04 2:25 p.m.
Remember where in the game you enjoyed it the most	MthdDirector	12/1/04 2:26 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Viscily II	12/1/04 4:15 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	'Nosolee	12/1/04 5:33 p.m.
I think, I've figured out what's missing. *SP*	Blitzwolf	12/1/04 8:43 p.m.
Re: I think, I've figured out what's missing. *SP*	igniter	12/1/04 11:17 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Ducain	12/1/04 10:13 p.m.
Re: Analog plasma pistol	ragereset	12/1/04 11:09 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	ThorsHammer	12/1/04 11:15 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP* True!	Ducain	12/2/04 3:51 p.m.
I just can't help but point out....	Konrad	12/2/04 8:27 p.m.
Burn. *NM*	Zero Flaw (E Nomini Patri)	12/2/04 8:35 p.m.
bad second quote	gspawn	12/2/04 8:39 p.m.
Re: Of Repetition *SP*	Sep7imus [subnova]	11/30/04 5:06 p.m.
my two cents. *sp*	B-Sharp	11/30/04 6:34 p.m.
Two more cents	ragereset	11/30/04 11:14 p.m.
Re: Two more cents to your two more cents	paladin2007	12/1/04 11:24 a.m.
Re: Two more cents	chaosknight514	12/1/04 4:36 p.m.
Something else to think about...	B-Sharp	12/1/04 4:59 p.m.
My Opinion	jac170sd	12/1/04 4:48 p.m.
Re: My Opinion	B-Sharp	12/1/04 5:46 p.m.
I have a few legitimate critiques	Noir	12/1/04 10:25 a.m.
Another $0.02	Smitty	12/1/04 2:41 p.m.
keep taking those deep breaths	MasterGrunt_Yayap-117	12/1/04 10:50 a.m.
Re: keep taking those deep breaths	bungiefan	12/1/04 11:35 a.m.
Deep breaths - vitriol free.	Dazza	12/1/04 11:30 a.m.
Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free.	Sep7imus [subnova]	12/1/04 11:41 a.m.
Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free.	Dazza	12/1/04 11:46 a.m.
Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free.	Sep7imus [subnova]	12/1/04 11:49 a.m.
Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free.	Dazza	12/1/04 11:51 a.m.
Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free.	Capain Spark	12/1/04 11:55 a.m.
What do/did we want from Halo 2.. and forH3 *long*	3Suns	12/2/04 9:15 p.m.
Noteable "community" figures	WRATHofGOD	12/1/04 1:10 p.m.
Hrm...	El Bastard	12/1/04 1:54 p.m.
Re: Hrm...	GhaleonEB	12/1/04 2:44 p.m.
Re: Hrm...	WRATHofGOD	12/1/04 3:49 p.m.
Re: Noteable "community" figs & rampant fanboism	R.G.	12/1/04 4:30 p.m.
Sounds like someone has a bone to pick. :)	Louis Wu	12/1/04 7:27 p.m.
Re: Sounds like someone has a bone to pick. :)	WRATHofGOD	12/2/04 7:57 a.m.
Re: Noteable "community" figures	Capo Rip	12/2/04 1:39 a.m.
A great but imperfect game	FoolsRun	12/1/04 2:53 p.m.
Said perfectly! Minor gripes from me below! *NM*	Jamirus99	12/1/04 3:28 p.m.
Re: A great but imperfect game	bungiefan	12/1/04 3:30 p.m.
The sum of its parts are greater than the whole	FoolsRun	12/1/04 5:34 p.m.
Great post! True, this will make Halo 3 better. *NM*	Siva Wr'k	12/1/04 4:08 p.m.
Re: A great but imperfect game	Inky	12/1/04 9:57 p.m.
Excellent Review. thanks for posting it. *NM*	R.G.	12/2/04 12:51 a.m.
A Final Note to Bungie	Vadcol	12/2/04 12:53 a.m.
My thoughts on Halo 2 (To boot) *SP*	Jamirus99	12/1/04 3:23 p.m.
Better the second time around	KilgoreTrout XL	12/1/04 3:25 p.m.
Absolutely Brilliant. I Totally Agree... *NM*	Bluestone	12/1/04 3:42 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Capo Rip	12/1/04 4:07 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Arc	12/1/04 5:10 p.m.
So true...	Capo Rip	12/1/04 6:18 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Seraph	12/1/04 5:09 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	MthdDirector	12/1/04 7:10 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Hieros	12/1/04 5:58 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	comicbookguy	12/1/04 6:19 p.m.
in regard to MP *img*	retsamolah	12/1/04 6:49 p.m.
Not All the Way, Spray and Pray:	Jamirus99	12/1/04 7:43 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Knight Premier	12/1/04 6:53 p.m.
it's smarter than me	spaartan117	12/1/04 7:43 p.m.
Randy Glass and Halo 2 haters	Bey Bey Bey	12/1/04 7:48 p.m.
Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 haters	Sep7imus [subnova]	12/1/04 8:16 p.m.
Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 haters	R.G.	12/1/04 11:13 p.m.
OK, I'm done, gotta call it a nite	Miguel Chavez	12/2/04 1:16 a.m.
Ditto,...	Ross Mills [subnova]	12/2/04 8:12 a.m.
Auteur! Auteur! Magnifique! *NM*	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	12/2/04 7:53 a.m.
Re: Bravo! *NM*	Sep7imus [subnova]	12/2/04 9:01 a.m.
Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 haters	Qonas	12/2/04 4:43 p.m.
Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 haters	Mothergoat	12/3/04 8:47 a.m.
what everyone should do is...	fludblud	12/2/04 7:08 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Dundre	12/1/04 8:44 p.m.
All I want for christmas	Trevor Austin	12/1/04 9:47 p.m.
I think that we're out of focus here.	*THASF* A.K.A. The Halo and Sonic Fan	12/1/04 10:17 p.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Traize	12/2/04 7:49 a.m.
Re: A few deep breaths *SP*	Chaka	12/2/04 7:03 p.m.