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Re: Don't bash Carmack

Posted By: Jägermeister <kablam@edmail.com> Date: 2/14/00 1:32 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Don't bash Carmack (menace)

> I just want to sum up the problem I have with you:
> You start off by insulting your betters (usually based on less
> than the full body of evidence available to you), repeatedly,
> with sweeping statements like "id sucks, quake sucks, their
> artists have no talent, the game is senseless, mindless, stupid,
> takes no intelligence or thought
>(implication: the players of
> such games are idiots) etc. etc. blah blah blah"
Some are, but not all (sadly, all the ones that I know locally:(). I intended no such implication as "all."
> Then, when called on these various points, you backpedal little
> by little and by the end you claim that you never said any such
> thing.
I never said that I never said "Quake sucks" or "ID sucks (I KNOW I said some things to that effect...I should have been more specific)," I said that I didn't say OTHER things.
> I think you need to re-examine what you write before it goes out
> to make sure that it CLEARLY says what you really MEAN it to
> say, and that everything you say can be defended when it comes
> down to it. If what you're talking about is subject to opinion,
> then you need to be clear on it. If only some things about
> something bother you, you need to be clear on what those things
> are, and what things are ok. If you don't have a full measure of
> experience with somehting, you should disclose that from the
> beginning. I think there have been some misunderstandings based
> on you staying inflamatory stuff (wouldn't seem inflamatory in a
> club of pro-Mac pro-Marathon anti-id anti-PC folks but most
> other places SOMEONE is going to disagree with you...) that was
> more sweeping than you probably meant.
Um, is this meant as an insult, or an extension of peace?
If peace, peace is accepted. I think we both know this has gotten out of hand.;)
> Yes you did, you said in effect "I'm an artist, and unless
> you are too, my opinion is worth more than yours and you should
> shut up."
Artistic opinion, not full opinion. There's a big difference. Anyway, that's all based on your opinion too.
Besides, you completely ignored the nullifieing statement...
> Maybe you should look at yourself before you start criticizing
> others for their attitude. I believe this whole thing started
> with you flaming Q3 and id, so maybe it could have stopped
> before it even started had you been a little more polite and
> thougthful from the beginning. Don't try to shift all the blame
> to me (or others) now...
I believe it started with me stating my OPINION on the artwork in IDs games...that's still me, but it certainly wasn't worth this whole arguement.
Now if we can just get along, we can consider this arguement terminated. As Mark said, it's all based on opinion, so it'll never end...
***Hands menace an olive sprig***
(: Jägermeister :)

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Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? Louis Wu 2/9/00 12:58 p.m.

I think he's nuts Mark Levin 2/9/00 1:20 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Dead Glory 2/9/00 1:31 p.m.

Ego Man! Ragnarok 2/9/00 9:21 p.m.

SuperEgo. Hmmm. Freudian slip. (NT) Dispatcher 2/9/00 11:10 p.m.

Don't bash Carmack MacFury 2/10/00 12:08 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Ragnarok 2/10/00 12:57 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Maestro 2/10/00 4:30 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/10/00 4:57 a.m.

Actually, I think it's anything above 12b or so-nt David Oosha 2/10/00 7:42 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Ragnarok 2/10/00 1:10 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Johnny Rotten 2/10/00 1:35 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Mark Levin 2/10/00 2:04 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Johnny Rotten 2/10/00 3:00 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/10/00 8:06 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Redox 2/10/00 9:42 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Louis Wu 2/12/00 4:52 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/10/00 10:43 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Mark Levin 2/11/00 12:02 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Nijhazer 2/10/00 2:51 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/10/00 8:07 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/10/00 2:26 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Johnny Rotten 2/10/00 3:06 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/10/00 3:25 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Johnny Rotten 2/10/00 3:38 p.m.

UT has better skins, IMHO MacGuyver 2/10/00 4:54 p.m.

Re: UT has better skins, IMHO menace 2/10/00 9:46 p.m.

Re: Q3 may have better skins alone... Mark Levin 2/10/00 10:29 p.m.

good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone... menace 2/10/00 10:33 p.m.

Re: good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone. Jägermeister 2/11/00 2:20 p.m.

Re: good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone. menace 2/13/00 7:38 a.m.

Re: good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone. Jägermeister 2/13/00 3:34 p.m.

Cognitive Dissonance Redox 2/10/00 10:37 p.m.

Re: Cognitive Dissonance menace 2/10/00 10:53 p.m.

Re: Cognitive Dissonance Redox 2/10/00 11:04 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/11/00 2:26 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Johnny Rotten 2/11/00 4:43 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/11/00 4:58 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/11/00 11:42 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/13/00 6:27 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/13/00 7:52 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/13/00 7:59 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/13/00 11:28 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/10/00 10:30 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack PowerMan 2/10/00 4:46 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/10/00 10:07 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Giule 2/11/00 8:14 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/11/00 10:56 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack 8Delicious 2/11/00 11:33 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/13/00 6:45 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack 8Delicious 2/14/00 7:41 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/10/00 10:04 p.m.

*Sniff* people can be so mean... (NT) Iku-Turso 2/11/00 12:10 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/11/00 2:15 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/11/00 11:36 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/12/00 2:32 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/12/00 3:44 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/12/00 2:48 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/12/00 10:49 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/12/00 11:37 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/13/00 7:34 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/13/00 7:25 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/13/00 3:30 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/14/00 2:37 a.m.

Can we grow up now please? Mark Levin 2/14/00 9:12 a.m.

Not to mention... Nijhazer 2/14/00 9:24 a.m.

Re: Not to mention... menace 2/14/00 11:33 a.m.

OT Nijhazer 2/14/00 12:31 p.m.

thx Re: OT menace 2/14/00 11:45 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/14/00 1:32 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Nijhazer 2/9/00 2:22 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Desio 2/9/00 6:30 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts sarwat 2/9/00 2:40 p.m.

Re: I think he's upset - - [ - - - - - - Tycho - - - - - - ] - - 2/9/00 2:50 p.m.

Errr... Xian 2/9/00 3:24 p.m.

Re: well crap - - [ - - - - - - Tycho - - - - - - ] - - 2/9/00 5:56 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Mark Levin 2/9/00 3:33 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Daniel å•---- Transmission Er®-–*ß*¬°ßå 7 14 21 28 2/9/00 10:19 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Giule 2/9/00 2:47 p.m.

Re: About Id and Bungie.. Dalan Galma 2/9/00 6:05 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts David Oosha 2/9/00 8:33 p.m.

that guy Carmack Mad Pad 2/10/00 9:06 a.m.

Re: that guy Carmack menace 2/10/00 9:03 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Dan Rudolph 2/10/00 12:08 a.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Johnny Rotten 2/10/00 1:04 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Mark Levin 2/10/00 2:03 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Johnny Rotten 2/10/00 3:14 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Nijhazer 2/10/00 6:00 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Johnny Rotten 2/11/00 12:19 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Nijhazer 2/11/00 12:41 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? Br'fin 2/9/00 1:49 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? sarwat 2/9/00 2:30 p.m.

Wolf3D to Pathways? I think UU moreso menace 2/10/00 8:51 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo, I comment on Carmack 8Delicious 2/9/00 2:19 p.m.

Something that bothers me... Nijhazer 2/9/00 2:27 p.m.

Re: Something that bothers me... menace 2/10/00 8:44 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? Michael Ash 2/9/00 2:55 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? menace 2/10/00 8:38 p.m.

What do you guys expect him to say? Xian 2/9/00 3:07 p.m.

Re: What do you guys expect him to say? 8Delicious 2/10/00 6:11 a.m.

Re: What do you guys expect him to say? menace 2/10/00 8:27 p.m.

Re: What do you guys expect him to say? 8Delicious 2/11/00 10:58 a.m.

That's fair. Forensic 2/9/00 3:41 p.m.

Re: That's fair. Daniel å•---- Transmission Er®-–*ß*¬°ßå 7 14 21 28 2/9/00 10:31 p.m.

Re: That's fair. menace 2/10/00 8:19 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? Devil Warrior 2/9/00 3:55 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? menace 2/10/00 8:16 p.m.

Carmack comments on Halo AlphaNumeric 2/9/00 8:57 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo menace 2/10/00 8:10 p.m.

"ID's Mac Shadow"?! He's crazy. Daniel å•---- Transmission Er®-–*ß*¬°ßå 7 14 21 28 2/9/00 10:15 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? Maestro 2/9/00 10:40 p.m.

There are a few other types of games.... NT Sempiternity 2/10/00 12:23 p.m.

Bungie's Agenda Br'fin 2/10/00 2:09 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? Matt 2/10/00 11:52 a.m.

Werdup!(nt) Maestro 2/10/00 6:32 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? Forensic, Voodoo Extreme version. 2/10/00 9:35 p.m.

Next On Celeberty Deathmach, Caramac VS Jones n/t Adeamus 2/10/00 10:16 p.m.

Calm Down Case 2/10/00 8:29 p.m.

I agree, why is everyone getting into a huff? (nt) Freewill 2/11/00 12:24 a.m.

Cleanse with haiku! MacGuyver 2/11/00 11:44 a.m.

Cleanse with haiku! 8Delicious 2/11/00 12:50 p.m.

Re: Cleanse with haiku! Jägermeister 2/11/00 1:20 p.m.

beware of the iamb! 8Delicious 2/11/00 2:48 p.m.

Storied PC FPS: Ramses II 2/11/00 2:41 a.m.

Re: Storied PC FPS: Ragnarok 2/11/00 11:14 a.m.

Re: Calm Down Giule 2/11/00 6:56 a.m.

Re: Calm Down Giule 2/11/00 6:56 a.m.

Re: Calm Down Giule 2/11/00 6:58 a.m.

I did not write that... Jaime 2/11/00 10:03 a.m.

Who are You? 8Delicious 2/11/00 12:35 p.m.

Re: Who are You? Nijhazer 2/11/00 12:40 p.m.

Re: I did not write that... Case (non-Bungie) 2/11/00 8:20 p.m.

Apoligezs (Sp?) Ragnarok 2/11/00 11:22 a.m.

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Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	Louis Wu	2/9/00 12:58 p.m.
I think he's nuts	Mark Levin	2/9/00 1:20 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Dead Glory	2/9/00 1:31 p.m.
Ego Man!	Ragnarok	2/9/00 9:21 p.m.
SuperEgo. Hmmm. Freudian slip. (NT)	Dispatcher	2/9/00 11:10 p.m.
Don't bash Carmack	MacFury	2/10/00 12:08 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Ragnarok	2/10/00 12:57 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Maestro	2/10/00 4:30 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/10/00 4:57 a.m.
Actually, I think it's anything above 12b or so-nt	David Oosha	2/10/00 7:42 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Ragnarok	2/10/00 1:10 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Johnny Rotten	2/10/00 1:35 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Mark Levin	2/10/00 2:04 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Johnny Rotten	2/10/00 3:00 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/10/00 8:06 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Redox	2/10/00 9:42 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Louis Wu	2/12/00 4:52 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/10/00 10:43 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Mark Levin	2/11/00 12:02 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Nijhazer	2/10/00 2:51 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/10/00 8:07 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/10/00 2:26 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Johnny Rotten	2/10/00 3:06 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/10/00 3:25 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Johnny Rotten	2/10/00 3:38 p.m.
UT has better skins, IMHO	MacGuyver	2/10/00 4:54 p.m.
Re: UT has better skins, IMHO	menace	2/10/00 9:46 p.m.
Re: Q3 may have better skins alone...	Mark Levin	2/10/00 10:29 p.m.
good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone...	menace	2/10/00 10:33 p.m.
Re: good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone.	Jägermeister	2/11/00 2:20 p.m.
Re: good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone.	menace	2/13/00 7:38 a.m.
Re: good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone.	Jägermeister	2/13/00 3:34 p.m.
Cognitive Dissonance	Redox	2/10/00 10:37 p.m.
Re: Cognitive Dissonance	menace	2/10/00 10:53 p.m.
Re: Cognitive Dissonance	Redox	2/10/00 11:04 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/11/00 2:26 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Johnny Rotten	2/11/00 4:43 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/11/00 4:58 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/11/00 11:42 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/13/00 6:27 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/13/00 7:52 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/13/00 7:59 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/13/00 11:28 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/10/00 10:30 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	PowerMan	2/10/00 4:46 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/10/00 10:07 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Giule	2/11/00 8:14 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/11/00 10:56 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	8Delicious	2/11/00 11:33 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/13/00 6:45 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	8Delicious	2/14/00 7:41 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/10/00 10:04 p.m.
Sniff people can be so mean... (NT)	Iku-Turso	2/11/00 12:10 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/11/00 2:15 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/11/00 11:36 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/12/00 2:32 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/12/00 3:44 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/12/00 2:48 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/12/00 10:49 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/12/00 11:37 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/13/00 7:34 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/13/00 7:25 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/13/00 3:30 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/14/00 2:37 a.m.
Can we grow up now please?	Mark Levin	2/14/00 9:12 a.m.
Not to mention...	Nijhazer	2/14/00 9:24 a.m.
Re: Not to mention...	menace	2/14/00 11:33 a.m.
OT	Nijhazer	2/14/00 12:31 p.m.
thx Re: OT	menace	2/14/00 11:45 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/14/00 1:32 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Nijhazer	2/9/00 2:22 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Desio	2/9/00 6:30 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	sarwat	2/9/00 2:40 p.m.
Re: I think he's upset	- - [ - - - - - - Tycho - - - - - - ] - -	2/9/00 2:50 p.m.
Errr...	Xian	2/9/00 3:24 p.m.
Re: well crap	- - [ - - - - - - Tycho - - - - - - ] - -	2/9/00 5:56 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Mark Levin	2/9/00 3:33 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Daniel å•---- Transmission Er®-–ß¬°ßå 7 14 21 28	2/9/00 10:19 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Giule	2/9/00 2:47 p.m.
Re: About Id and Bungie..	Dalan Galma	2/9/00 6:05 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	David Oosha	2/9/00 8:33 p.m.
that guy Carmack	Mad Pad	2/10/00 9:06 a.m.
Re: that guy Carmack	menace	2/10/00 9:03 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Dan Rudolph	2/10/00 12:08 a.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Johnny Rotten	2/10/00 1:04 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Mark Levin	2/10/00 2:03 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Johnny Rotten	2/10/00 3:14 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Nijhazer	2/10/00 6:00 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Johnny Rotten	2/11/00 12:19 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Nijhazer	2/11/00 12:41 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	Br'fin	2/9/00 1:49 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	sarwat	2/9/00 2:30 p.m.
Wolf3D to Pathways? I think UU moreso	menace	2/10/00 8:51 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo, I comment on Carmack	8Delicious	2/9/00 2:19 p.m.
Something that bothers me...	Nijhazer	2/9/00 2:27 p.m.
Re: Something that bothers me...	menace	2/10/00 8:44 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	Michael Ash	2/9/00 2:55 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	menace	2/10/00 8:38 p.m.
What do you guys expect him to say?	Xian	2/9/00 3:07 p.m.
Re: What do you guys expect him to say?	8Delicious	2/10/00 6:11 a.m.
Re: What do you guys expect him to say?	menace	2/10/00 8:27 p.m.
Re: What do you guys expect him to say?	8Delicious	2/11/00 10:58 a.m.
That's fair.	Forensic	2/9/00 3:41 p.m.
Re: That's fair.	Daniel å•---- Transmission Er®-–ß¬°ßå 7 14 21 28	2/9/00 10:31 p.m.
Re: That's fair.	menace	2/10/00 8:19 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	Devil Warrior	2/9/00 3:55 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	menace	2/10/00 8:16 p.m.
Carmack comments on Halo	AlphaNumeric	2/9/00 8:57 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo	menace	2/10/00 8:10 p.m.
"ID's Mac Shadow"?! He's crazy.	Daniel å•---- Transmission Er®-–ß¬°ßå 7 14 21 28	2/9/00 10:15 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	Maestro	2/9/00 10:40 p.m.
There are a few other types of games.... NT	Sempiternity	2/10/00 12:23 p.m.
Bungie's Agenda	Br'fin	2/10/00 2:09 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	Matt	2/10/00 11:52 a.m.
Werdup!(nt)	Maestro	2/10/00 6:32 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	Forensic, Voodoo Extreme version.	2/10/00 9:35 p.m.
Next On Celeberty Deathmach, Caramac VS Jones n/t	Adeamus	2/10/00 10:16 p.m.
Calm Down	Case	2/10/00 8:29 p.m.
I agree, why is everyone getting into a huff? (nt)	Freewill	2/11/00 12:24 a.m.
Cleanse with haiku!	MacGuyver	2/11/00 11:44 a.m.
Cleanse with haiku!	8Delicious	2/11/00 12:50 p.m.
Re: Cleanse with haiku!	Jägermeister	2/11/00 1:20 p.m.
beware of the iamb!	8Delicious	2/11/00 2:48 p.m.
Storied PC FPS:	Ramses II	2/11/00 2:41 a.m.
Re: Storied PC FPS:	Ragnarok	2/11/00 11:14 a.m.
Re: Calm Down	Giule	2/11/00 6:56 a.m.
Re: Calm Down	Giule	2/11/00 6:56 a.m.
Re: Calm Down	Giule	2/11/00 6:58 a.m.
I did not write that...	Jaime	2/11/00 10:03 a.m.
Who are You?	8Delicious	2/11/00 12:35 p.m.
Re: Who are You?	Nijhazer	2/11/00 12:40 p.m.
Re: I did not write that...	Case (non-Bungie)	2/11/00 8:20 p.m.
Apoligezs (Sp?)	Ragnarok	2/11/00 11:22 a.m.