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Re: I think he's nuts
Posted By: sarwat <sarwat@spam-me-you-die-sarwat.net>Date: 2/9/00 2:40 p.m.

In Response To: I think he's nuts (Mark Levin)

> Regarding his specific comment on the Halo engine:

> "any halfway competent rendering engine can render any
> given scene."

> This is one of the silliest things I've ever heard said by a top
> gaming industry figure.

Uh, no, he's right on this one. I can take the time to make an OpenGL app to render a Halo screenshot. I don't think he's seen much of Halo (specifically the movies or the MWNY demo), as he often says that he's had his nose stuck in Q3A for the last year. I'm starting to wonder if anyone's seen the MWNY demo...

Myth isn't even OpenGL based, he's talking about true 3D engines (albiet the Quake engine doesn't stand a chance, but if you're talking about what you can do with current tech, he's right). The movies are the things that make you pick up your jaw off the floor and bring out the mop to clean up the drool.

And on another topic, I was just looking out the window and saw a bird on a branch on a tree right there. "Ooh, that's nice, maybe I should get my camera." Then it crapped. Which brings me back to Halo; I'm kind of sick about how much people are pushing realism in Halo... I don't want a bird crapping on me while I'm hunting down a Covenant.

Then again, maybe Bungie does.


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Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?Louis Wu 2/9/00 12:58 p.m.
     I think he's nutsMark Levin 2/9/00 1:20 p.m.
           Re: I think he's nutsDead Glory 2/9/00 1:31 p.m.
                 Ego Man!Ragnarok 2/9/00 9:21 p.m.
                       SuperEgo. Hmmm. Freudian slip. (NT)Dispatcher 2/9/00 11:10 p.m.
                             Don't bash CarmackMacFury 2/10/00 12:08 a.m.
                                   Re: Don't bash CarmackRagnarok 2/10/00 12:57 a.m.
                                         Re: Don't bash CarmackMaestro 2/10/00 4:30 a.m.
                                               Re: Don't bash CarmackDan Rudolph 2/10/00 4:57 a.m.
                                                     Actually, I think it's anything above 12b or so-ntDavid Oosha 2/10/00 7:42 a.m.
                                                     Re: Don't bash CarmackRagnarok 2/10/00 1:10 p.m.
                                                           Re: Don't bash CarmackJohnny Rotten 2/10/00 1:35 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Don't bash CarmackMark Levin 2/10/00 2:04 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Don't bash CarmackJohnny Rotten 2/10/00 3:00 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Don't bash CarmackDan Rudolph 2/10/00 8:06 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Don't bash CarmackRedox 2/10/00 9:42 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Don't bash CarmackLouis Wu 2/12/00 4:52 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Don't bash Carmackmenace 2/10/00 10:43 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Don't bash CarmackMark Levin 2/11/00 12:02 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Don't bash CarmackNijhazer 2/10/00 2:51 p.m.
                                                           Re: Don't bash CarmackDan Rudolph 2/10/00 8:07 p.m.
                                               Re: Don't bash CarmackJägermeister 2/10/00 2:26 p.m.
                                                     Re: Don't bash CarmackJohnny Rotten 2/10/00 3:06 p.m.
                                                           Re: Don't bash CarmackJägermeister 2/10/00 3:25 p.m.
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                                                                       UT has better skins, IMHOMacGuyver 2/10/00 4:54 p.m.
                                                                             Re: UT has better skins, IMHOmenace 2/10/00 9:46 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Q3 may have better skins alone...Mark Levin 2/10/00 10:29 p.m.
                                                                                         good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone...menace 2/10/00 10:33 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone.Jägermeister 2/11/00 2:20 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone.menace 2/13/00 7:38 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone.Jägermeister 2/13/00 3:34 p.m.
                                                                                   Cognitive DissonanceRedox 2/10/00 10:37 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Cognitive Dissonancemenace 2/10/00 10:53 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Cognitive DissonanceRedox 2/10/00 11:04 p.m.
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                                                                             Re: Don't bash CarmackJohnny Rotten 2/11/00 4:43 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Don't bash CarmackJägermeister 2/11/00 4:58 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Don't bash CarmackDan Rudolph 2/11/00 11:42 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Don't bash Carmackmenace 2/13/00 6:27 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Don't bash CarmackJägermeister 2/13/00 7:52 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Don't bash CarmackJägermeister 2/13/00 7:59 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Don't bash CarmackDan Rudolph 2/13/00 11:28 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Don't bash Carmackmenace 2/10/00 10:30 p.m.
                                                     Re: Don't bash CarmackPowerMan 2/10/00 4:46 p.m.
                                                           Re: Don't bash Carmackmenace 2/10/00 10:07 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Don't bash CarmackGiule 2/11/00 8:14 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Don't bash Carmackmenace 2/11/00 10:56 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Don't bash Carmack8Delicious 2/11/00 11:33 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Don't bash Carmackmenace 2/13/00 6:45 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: Don't bash Carmack8Delicious 2/14/00 7:41 a.m.
                                                     Re: Don't bash Carmackmenace 2/10/00 10:04 p.m.
                                                           *Sniff* people can be so mean... (NT)Iku-Turso 2/11/00 12:10 a.m.
                                                           Re: Don't bash CarmackJägermeister 2/11/00 2:15 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Don't bash CarmackDan Rudolph 2/11/00 11:36 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Don't bash CarmackJägermeister 2/12/00 2:32 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Don't bash CarmackDan Rudolph 2/12/00 3:44 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: Don't bash CarmackJägermeister 2/12/00 2:48 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Don't bash CarmackDan Rudolph 2/12/00 10:49 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Don't bash CarmackJägermeister 2/12/00 11:37 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Don't bash Carmackmenace 2/13/00 7:34 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Don't bash Carmackmenace 2/13/00 7:25 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Don't bash CarmackJägermeister 2/13/00 3:30 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Don't bash Carmackmenace 2/14/00 2:37 a.m.
                                                                                   Can we grow up now please?Mark Levin 2/14/00 9:12 a.m.
                                                                                         Not to mention...Nijhazer 2/14/00 9:24 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: Not to mention...menace 2/14/00 11:33 a.m.
                                                                                                     OTNijhazer 2/14/00 12:31 p.m.
                                                                                                           thx Re: OTmenace 2/14/00 11:45 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Don't bash CarmackJägermeister 2/14/00 1:32 p.m.
           Re: I think he's nutsNijhazer 2/9/00 2:22 p.m.
                 Re: I think he's nutsDesio 2/9/00 6:30 p.m.
           Re: I think he's nutssarwat 2/9/00 2:40 p.m.
                 Re: I think he's upset- - [ - - - - - - Tycho - - - - - - ] - - 2/9/00 2:50 p.m.
                       Errr...Xian 2/9/00 3:24 p.m.
                             Re: well crap- - [ - - - - - - Tycho - - - - - - ] - - 2/9/00 5:56 p.m.
                 Re: I think he's nutsMark Levin 2/9/00 3:33 p.m.
                       Re: I think he's nutsDaniel å•---- Transmission Er®-–*ß*¬°ßå 7 14 21 28 2/9/00 10:19 p.m.
           Re: I think he's nutsGiule 2/9/00 2:47 p.m.
           Re: About Id and Bungie..Dalan Galma 2/9/00 6:05 p.m.
           Re: I think he's nutsDavid Oosha 2/9/00 8:33 p.m.
                 that guy CarmackMad Pad 2/10/00 9:06 a.m.
                       Re: that guy Carmackmenace 2/10/00 9:03 p.m.
           Re: I think he's nutsDan Rudolph 2/10/00 12:08 a.m.
           Re: I think he's nutsJohnny Rotten 2/10/00 1:04 p.m.
                 Re: I think he's nutsMark Levin 2/10/00 2:03 p.m.
                       Re: I think he's nutsJohnny Rotten 2/10/00 3:14 p.m.
                             Re: I think he's nutsNijhazer 2/10/00 6:00 p.m.
                                   Re: I think he's nutsJohnny Rotten 2/11/00 12:19 p.m.
                                         Re: I think he's nutsNijhazer 2/11/00 12:41 p.m.
     Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?Br'fin 2/9/00 1:49 p.m.
           Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?sarwat 2/9/00 2:30 p.m.
           Wolf3D to Pathways? I think UU moresomenace 2/10/00 8:51 p.m.
     Re: Carmack comments on Halo, I comment on Carmack8Delicious 2/9/00 2:19 p.m.
     Something that bothers me...Nijhazer 2/9/00 2:27 p.m.
           Re: Something that bothers me...menace 2/10/00 8:44 p.m.
     Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?Michael Ash 2/9/00 2:55 p.m.
           Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?menace 2/10/00 8:38 p.m.
     What do you guys expect him to say?Xian 2/9/00 3:07 p.m.
           Re: What do you guys expect him to say?8Delicious 2/10/00 6:11 a.m.
                 Re: What do you guys expect him to say?menace 2/10/00 8:27 p.m.
                       Re: What do you guys expect him to say?8Delicious 2/11/00 10:58 a.m.
     That's fair.Forensic 2/9/00 3:41 p.m.
           Re: That's fair.Daniel å•---- Transmission Er®-–*ß*¬°ßå 7 14 21 28 2/9/00 10:31 p.m.
                 Re: That's fair.menace 2/10/00 8:19 p.m.
     Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?Devil Warrior 2/9/00 3:55 p.m.
           Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?menace 2/10/00 8:16 p.m.
     Carmack comments on HaloAlphaNumeric 2/9/00 8:57 p.m.
           Re: Carmack comments on Halomenace 2/10/00 8:10 p.m.
     "ID's Mac Shadow"?! He's crazy.Daniel å•---- Transmission Er®-–*ß*¬°ßå 7 14 21 28 2/9/00 10:15 p.m.
     Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?Maestro 2/9/00 10:40 p.m.
           There are a few other types of games.... NTSempiternity 2/10/00 12:23 p.m.
           Bungie's AgendaBr'fin 2/10/00 2:09 p.m.
     Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?Matt 2/10/00 11:52 a.m.
           Werdup!(nt)Maestro 2/10/00 6:32 p.m.
           Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?Forensic, Voodoo Extreme version. 2/10/00 9:35 p.m.
                 Next On Celeberty Deathmach, Caramac VS Jones n/tAdeamus 2/10/00 10:16 p.m.
     Calm DownCase 2/10/00 8:29 p.m.
           I agree, why is everyone getting into a huff? (nt)Freewill 2/11/00 12:24 a.m.
                 Cleanse with haiku!MacGuyver 2/11/00 11:44 a.m.
                       Cleanse with haiku!8Delicious 2/11/00 12:50 p.m.
                             Re: Cleanse with haiku!Jägermeister 2/11/00 1:20 p.m.
                                   beware of the iamb!8Delicious 2/11/00 2:48 p.m.
           Storied PC FPS:Ramses II 2/11/00 2:41 a.m.
                 Re: Storied PC FPS:Ragnarok 2/11/00 11:14 a.m.
           Re: Calm DownGiule 2/11/00 6:56 a.m.
                 Re: Calm DownGiule 2/11/00 6:56 a.m.
           Re: Calm DownGiule 2/11/00 6:58 a.m.
           I did not write that...Jaime 2/11/00 10:03 a.m.
                 Who are You?8Delicious 2/11/00 12:35 p.m.
                       Re: Who are You?Nijhazer 2/11/00 12:40 p.m.
                 Re: I did not write that...Case (non-Bungie) 2/11/00 8:20 p.m.
           Apoligezs (Sp?)Ragnarok 2/11/00 11:22 a.m.



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