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Re: Don't bash Carmack

Posted By: Jägermeister <kablam@edmail.com> Date: 2/13/00 7:52 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Don't bash Carmack (menace)

> Heh, well since you admitted in another post you've never even
> played Quake, it should be no surprse that you don't know how
> these games are really played.
I didn't say ONCE I've never played Quake...I played 1 and 2 enough to realize I didn't enjoy IDs games any more than I enjoyed Doom when they made that...I'm simply not really eager to PLAY Q3...
> Actually Q1 had much more colorful textures in general than Q2.
> Q2 was more colorful only due to the colored lights.
Agreed.
>(And Q1 had
> a lot of color--at least as much as M1, for instance-
This statement simply isn't true.
>-which
> you'd know if you actually played it.
Have. Did. Glad to put it down.
>There are whole levels
> that are blue, for instance, and plenty of green and red, as
> well as the well-known brown, black, and gray.)
"Whole levels that are blue..."
What does THAT seem to say??
(To make sure this is clear)IN MY OPINION, the quake 1 textures we pretty much same ol' same ol'...very dull, drab, and uninteresting. This can be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on how it's done...unobtrusive is one thing, but dull and ugly is another...
> M1's textures were kind of a joke, they really don't stand up
> well today (for instance, there isn't a single M1 texture that
> would look good in a modern game engine).
This is false.
Map viewer isn't a good example, but it shows how good these textures DO look in an engine with more modern graphics-rendering abilities...and voids your above statement.
>M2 had some decent
> textures, and a lot of crap.
I concur. I thought it was TOO bright (in the same basic area where quake is too dull IN MY OPINION)
>M Inf has the best textures of the
> Marathon series, and they are really quite nice, though often
> more abstract than realistic looking. But they do look good in
> the game, and transplant fairly well to other engines.
Agreed.
> Hehe, I see that you are pretty much only aware of the games
> from one single company,
Hehe, I see that you enjoy skewing comments so you can draw false conclusions from them. ;P
FYI, those are just the only games I've played a LOT of in awhile. I've played LOTS of other games, but haven't enjoyed them and as such, they don't stick in my mind, and I wouldn't put them in a list like this.
Excuse me for talking about how much I enjoy BUNGIE games on a BUNGIE fan forum...
>and are forced to drag them up to
> "prove" a point.
You haven't exactly "proven" anything either.
>Let's not even drag unreleased games
> into this no matter how near release you think thy are. That
> leaves the marathon games (which had very simple, cartoonish 2D
> sprites for characters with very rough animations,
"Cartoonish" is going a bit far. I'd like to see someone make a pfhor-anything model in 3d for one of the modern engines, and have it look good.
>NOT any 3D
> player models or skins in sight)
THE GAME IS ALSO 4+ YEARS OLD!!! Doesn't the fact that it has a dated engine, and people still really, REALLY enjoy it mean anything to you?? If you aren't going to care about that, then I don't see why I should care about how GREAT Quake is just because SO many people play it, and it has a well-programmed engine. THAT'S IT'S STRONG POINT, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!
>and Abuse (ditto, and it wasn't
> even made by Bungie, just published-
I already knew this...Crack dot Com...
>-Abuse was made by a
> hardcore PC and Linux-oriented game company run by, get this,
> ex-id employees...betcha didn't know that, now, did you?)
Ex, huh?
Wonder what happened...they probably just quit. Or maybe they wanted to make a game with a compelling story and believable, well-merged graphics, and they got fired j/k
> Heh, that's the first sensible and generally accurate statement
> I've EVER seen you make, in like a year or two of reading your
> posts in various places. Go figure, maybe you're growing up or
> something? Or maybe it's just the only non-Bungie game you've
> ever played so you felt the need to say something good about
> it...
No.
If you read the rest of this message, you will realize you are wrong (unless you choose not to believe me...but if you keep rambling about how "inexperienced" I am, I'll just bring this up every time and suggest you read it again.
BTW, I've NEVER seen YOU post anything "sensible" or "intelligent" in a long, correction, EVER.
Maybe if you'd drop the disgruntled, 14-year-old attitude, you'd change that, though.
(: Jägermeister :)

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Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? Louis Wu 2/9/00 12:58 p.m.

I think he's nuts Mark Levin 2/9/00 1:20 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Dead Glory 2/9/00 1:31 p.m.

Ego Man! Ragnarok 2/9/00 9:21 p.m.

SuperEgo. Hmmm. Freudian slip. (NT) Dispatcher 2/9/00 11:10 p.m.

Don't bash Carmack MacFury 2/10/00 12:08 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Ragnarok 2/10/00 12:57 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Maestro 2/10/00 4:30 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/10/00 4:57 a.m.

Actually, I think it's anything above 12b or so-nt David Oosha 2/10/00 7:42 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Ragnarok 2/10/00 1:10 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Johnny Rotten 2/10/00 1:35 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Mark Levin 2/10/00 2:04 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Johnny Rotten 2/10/00 3:00 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/10/00 8:06 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Redox 2/10/00 9:42 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Louis Wu 2/12/00 4:52 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/10/00 10:43 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Mark Levin 2/11/00 12:02 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Nijhazer 2/10/00 2:51 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/10/00 8:07 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/10/00 2:26 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Johnny Rotten 2/10/00 3:06 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/10/00 3:25 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Johnny Rotten 2/10/00 3:38 p.m.

UT has better skins, IMHO MacGuyver 2/10/00 4:54 p.m.

Re: UT has better skins, IMHO menace 2/10/00 9:46 p.m.

Re: Q3 may have better skins alone... Mark Levin 2/10/00 10:29 p.m.

good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone... menace 2/10/00 10:33 p.m.

Re: good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone. Jägermeister 2/11/00 2:20 p.m.

Re: good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone. menace 2/13/00 7:38 a.m.

Re: good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone. Jägermeister 2/13/00 3:34 p.m.

Cognitive Dissonance Redox 2/10/00 10:37 p.m.

Re: Cognitive Dissonance menace 2/10/00 10:53 p.m.

Re: Cognitive Dissonance Redox 2/10/00 11:04 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/11/00 2:26 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Johnny Rotten 2/11/00 4:43 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/11/00 4:58 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/11/00 11:42 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/13/00 6:27 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/13/00 7:52 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/13/00 7:59 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/13/00 11:28 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/10/00 10:30 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack PowerMan 2/10/00 4:46 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/10/00 10:07 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Giule 2/11/00 8:14 a.m.

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Re: Don't bash Carmack 8Delicious 2/11/00 11:33 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/13/00 6:45 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack 8Delicious 2/14/00 7:41 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/10/00 10:04 p.m.

*Sniff* people can be so mean... (NT) Iku-Turso 2/11/00 12:10 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/11/00 2:15 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/11/00 11:36 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/12/00 2:32 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/12/00 3:44 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/12/00 2:48 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Dan Rudolph 2/12/00 10:49 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/12/00 11:37 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/13/00 7:34 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/13/00 7:25 a.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/13/00 3:30 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack menace 2/14/00 2:37 a.m.

Can we grow up now please? Mark Levin 2/14/00 9:12 a.m.

Not to mention... Nijhazer 2/14/00 9:24 a.m.

Re: Not to mention... menace 2/14/00 11:33 a.m.

OT Nijhazer 2/14/00 12:31 p.m.

thx Re: OT menace 2/14/00 11:45 p.m.

Re: Don't bash Carmack Jägermeister 2/14/00 1:32 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Nijhazer 2/9/00 2:22 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Desio 2/9/00 6:30 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts sarwat 2/9/00 2:40 p.m.

Re: I think he's upset - - [ - - - - - - Tycho - - - - - - ] - - 2/9/00 2:50 p.m.

Errr... Xian 2/9/00 3:24 p.m.

Re: well crap - - [ - - - - - - Tycho - - - - - - ] - - 2/9/00 5:56 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Mark Levin 2/9/00 3:33 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Daniel å•---- Transmission Er®-–*ß*¬°ßå 7 14 21 28 2/9/00 10:19 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Giule 2/9/00 2:47 p.m.

Re: About Id and Bungie.. Dalan Galma 2/9/00 6:05 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts David Oosha 2/9/00 8:33 p.m.

that guy Carmack Mad Pad 2/10/00 9:06 a.m.

Re: that guy Carmack menace 2/10/00 9:03 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Dan Rudolph 2/10/00 12:08 a.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Johnny Rotten 2/10/00 1:04 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Mark Levin 2/10/00 2:03 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Johnny Rotten 2/10/00 3:14 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Nijhazer 2/10/00 6:00 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Johnny Rotten 2/11/00 12:19 p.m.

Re: I think he's nuts Nijhazer 2/11/00 12:41 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? Br'fin 2/9/00 1:49 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? sarwat 2/9/00 2:30 p.m.

Wolf3D to Pathways? I think UU moreso menace 2/10/00 8:51 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo, I comment on Carmack 8Delicious 2/9/00 2:19 p.m.

Something that bothers me... Nijhazer 2/9/00 2:27 p.m.

Re: Something that bothers me... menace 2/10/00 8:44 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? Michael Ash 2/9/00 2:55 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? menace 2/10/00 8:38 p.m.

What do you guys expect him to say? Xian 2/9/00 3:07 p.m.

Re: What do you guys expect him to say? 8Delicious 2/10/00 6:11 a.m.

Re: What do you guys expect him to say? menace 2/10/00 8:27 p.m.

Re: What do you guys expect him to say? 8Delicious 2/11/00 10:58 a.m.

That's fair. Forensic 2/9/00 3:41 p.m.

Re: That's fair. Daniel å•---- Transmission Er®-–*ß*¬°ßå 7 14 21 28 2/9/00 10:31 p.m.

Re: That's fair. menace 2/10/00 8:19 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? Devil Warrior 2/9/00 3:55 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? menace 2/10/00 8:16 p.m.

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Re: Carmack comments on Halo menace 2/10/00 8:10 p.m.

"ID's Mac Shadow"?! He's crazy. Daniel å•---- Transmission Er®-–*ß*¬°ßå 7 14 21 28 2/9/00 10:15 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? Maestro 2/9/00 10:40 p.m.

There are a few other types of games.... NT Sempiternity 2/10/00 12:23 p.m.

Bungie's Agenda Br'fin 2/10/00 2:09 p.m.

Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? Matt 2/10/00 11:52 a.m.

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Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think? Forensic, Voodoo Extreme version. 2/10/00 9:35 p.m.

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I agree, why is everyone getting into a huff? (nt) Freewill 2/11/00 12:24 a.m.

Cleanse with haiku! MacGuyver 2/11/00 11:44 a.m.

Cleanse with haiku! 8Delicious 2/11/00 12:50 p.m.

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beware of the iamb! 8Delicious 2/11/00 2:48 p.m.

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Re: Who are You? Nijhazer 2/11/00 12:40 p.m.

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Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	Louis Wu	2/9/00 12:58 p.m.
I think he's nuts	Mark Levin	2/9/00 1:20 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Dead Glory	2/9/00 1:31 p.m.
Ego Man!	Ragnarok	2/9/00 9:21 p.m.
SuperEgo. Hmmm. Freudian slip. (NT)	Dispatcher	2/9/00 11:10 p.m.
Don't bash Carmack	MacFury	2/10/00 12:08 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Ragnarok	2/10/00 12:57 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Maestro	2/10/00 4:30 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/10/00 4:57 a.m.
Actually, I think it's anything above 12b or so-nt	David Oosha	2/10/00 7:42 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Ragnarok	2/10/00 1:10 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Johnny Rotten	2/10/00 1:35 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Mark Levin	2/10/00 2:04 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Johnny Rotten	2/10/00 3:00 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/10/00 8:06 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Redox	2/10/00 9:42 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Louis Wu	2/12/00 4:52 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/10/00 10:43 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Mark Levin	2/11/00 12:02 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Nijhazer	2/10/00 2:51 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/10/00 8:07 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/10/00 2:26 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Johnny Rotten	2/10/00 3:06 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/10/00 3:25 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Johnny Rotten	2/10/00 3:38 p.m.
UT has better skins, IMHO	MacGuyver	2/10/00 4:54 p.m.
Re: UT has better skins, IMHO	menace	2/10/00 9:46 p.m.
Re: Q3 may have better skins alone...	Mark Levin	2/10/00 10:29 p.m.
good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone...	menace	2/10/00 10:33 p.m.
Re: good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone.	Jägermeister	2/11/00 2:20 p.m.
Re: good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone.	menace	2/13/00 7:38 a.m.
Re: good point Re: Q3 may have better skins alone.	Jägermeister	2/13/00 3:34 p.m.
Cognitive Dissonance	Redox	2/10/00 10:37 p.m.
Re: Cognitive Dissonance	menace	2/10/00 10:53 p.m.
Re: Cognitive Dissonance	Redox	2/10/00 11:04 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/11/00 2:26 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Johnny Rotten	2/11/00 4:43 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/11/00 4:58 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/11/00 11:42 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/13/00 6:27 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/13/00 7:52 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/13/00 7:59 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/13/00 11:28 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/10/00 10:30 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	PowerMan	2/10/00 4:46 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/10/00 10:07 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Giule	2/11/00 8:14 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/11/00 10:56 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	8Delicious	2/11/00 11:33 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/13/00 6:45 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	8Delicious	2/14/00 7:41 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/10/00 10:04 p.m.
Sniff people can be so mean... (NT)	Iku-Turso	2/11/00 12:10 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/11/00 2:15 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/11/00 11:36 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/12/00 2:32 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/12/00 3:44 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/12/00 2:48 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Dan Rudolph	2/12/00 10:49 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/12/00 11:37 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/13/00 7:34 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/13/00 7:25 a.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/13/00 3:30 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	menace	2/14/00 2:37 a.m.
Can we grow up now please?	Mark Levin	2/14/00 9:12 a.m.
Not to mention...	Nijhazer	2/14/00 9:24 a.m.
Re: Not to mention...	menace	2/14/00 11:33 a.m.
OT	Nijhazer	2/14/00 12:31 p.m.
thx Re: OT	menace	2/14/00 11:45 p.m.
Re: Don't bash Carmack	Jägermeister	2/14/00 1:32 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Nijhazer	2/9/00 2:22 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Desio	2/9/00 6:30 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	sarwat	2/9/00 2:40 p.m.
Re: I think he's upset	- - [ - - - - - - Tycho - - - - - - ] - -	2/9/00 2:50 p.m.
Errr...	Xian	2/9/00 3:24 p.m.
Re: well crap	- - [ - - - - - - Tycho - - - - - - ] - -	2/9/00 5:56 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Mark Levin	2/9/00 3:33 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Daniel å•---- Transmission Er®-–ß¬°ßå 7 14 21 28	2/9/00 10:19 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Giule	2/9/00 2:47 p.m.
Re: About Id and Bungie..	Dalan Galma	2/9/00 6:05 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	David Oosha	2/9/00 8:33 p.m.
that guy Carmack	Mad Pad	2/10/00 9:06 a.m.
Re: that guy Carmack	menace	2/10/00 9:03 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Dan Rudolph	2/10/00 12:08 a.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Johnny Rotten	2/10/00 1:04 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Mark Levin	2/10/00 2:03 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Johnny Rotten	2/10/00 3:14 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Nijhazer	2/10/00 6:00 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Johnny Rotten	2/11/00 12:19 p.m.
Re: I think he's nuts	Nijhazer	2/11/00 12:41 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	Br'fin	2/9/00 1:49 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	sarwat	2/9/00 2:30 p.m.
Wolf3D to Pathways? I think UU moreso	menace	2/10/00 8:51 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo, I comment on Carmack	8Delicious	2/9/00 2:19 p.m.
Something that bothers me...	Nijhazer	2/9/00 2:27 p.m.
Re: Something that bothers me...	menace	2/10/00 8:44 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	Michael Ash	2/9/00 2:55 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	menace	2/10/00 8:38 p.m.
What do you guys expect him to say?	Xian	2/9/00 3:07 p.m.
Re: What do you guys expect him to say?	8Delicious	2/10/00 6:11 a.m.
Re: What do you guys expect him to say?	menace	2/10/00 8:27 p.m.
Re: What do you guys expect him to say?	8Delicious	2/11/00 10:58 a.m.
That's fair.	Forensic	2/9/00 3:41 p.m.
Re: That's fair.	Daniel å•---- Transmission Er®-–ß¬°ßå 7 14 21 28	2/9/00 10:31 p.m.
Re: That's fair.	menace	2/10/00 8:19 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	Devil Warrior	2/9/00 3:55 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	menace	2/10/00 8:16 p.m.
Carmack comments on Halo	AlphaNumeric	2/9/00 8:57 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo	menace	2/10/00 8:10 p.m.
"ID's Mac Shadow"?! He's crazy.	Daniel å•---- Transmission Er®-–ß¬°ßå 7 14 21 28	2/9/00 10:15 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	Maestro	2/9/00 10:40 p.m.
There are a few other types of games.... NT	Sempiternity	2/10/00 12:23 p.m.
Bungie's Agenda	Br'fin	2/10/00 2:09 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	Matt	2/10/00 11:52 a.m.
Werdup!(nt)	Maestro	2/10/00 6:32 p.m.
Re: Carmack comments on Halo... what do you think?	Forensic, Voodoo Extreme version.	2/10/00 9:35 p.m.
Next On Celeberty Deathmach, Caramac VS Jones n/t	Adeamus	2/10/00 10:16 p.m.
Calm Down	Case	2/10/00 8:29 p.m.
I agree, why is everyone getting into a huff? (nt)	Freewill	2/11/00 12:24 a.m.
Cleanse with haiku!	MacGuyver	2/11/00 11:44 a.m.
Cleanse with haiku!	8Delicious	2/11/00 12:50 p.m.
Re: Cleanse with haiku!	Jägermeister	2/11/00 1:20 p.m.
beware of the iamb!	8Delicious	2/11/00 2:48 p.m.
Storied PC FPS:	Ramses II	2/11/00 2:41 a.m.
Re: Storied PC FPS:	Ragnarok	2/11/00 11:14 a.m.
Re: Calm Down	Giule	2/11/00 6:56 a.m.
Re: Calm Down	Giule	2/11/00 6:56 a.m.
Re: Calm Down	Giule	2/11/00 6:58 a.m.
I did not write that...	Jaime	2/11/00 10:03 a.m.
Who are You?	8Delicious	2/11/00 12:35 p.m.
Re: Who are You?	Nijhazer	2/11/00 12:40 p.m.
Re: I did not write that...	Case (non-Bungie)	2/11/00 8:20 p.m.
Apoligezs (Sp?)	Ragnarok	2/11/00 11:22 a.m.