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Re: whining about Del Rio
Posted By: Jabberwok <funkycaribou@aim.com>	Date: 2/16/13 6:40 p.m.
In Response To: Re: whining about Del Rio (Bry) Some of these are very good points that should have been addressed in game. I haven't played Sp Ops yet, but there is little to no mention in the campaign of the fact that Infinity was caught because they detected Cortana's signal. Things would have made a lot more sense if that had been mentioned when the Chief meets up with the Infinity. In fact, a five minute debriefing about where he's been for four years would have made a whole lot of sense, but instead it's just,"Oh you're back? Then save my ship a couple times while I yell at you." Also, I think the behavior I was referring to also takes place before Cortana's breakdown, but I'm having trouble remembering specifics right now. He just says stuff that doesn't quite make sense if you think about it for like 5 seconds. I'm not saying that there may not be reasons for his disposition, but since no attempt is made to show those reasons, I can't identify with his reactions at all. If they had spent more time on that, I might have enjoyed learning about his character, but instead they just made him consistently unpleasant. And that seems unnecessary to me. In game terms, even if it's realistic, it's not much fun to be surrounded by jerks. What's my motivation to help these people? It might be more excusable if there were more counterpoint, but the only characters in the game who aren't jerks are just fairly boring. If I have no interest in the characters they created, then interrupting my gameplay to make me talk to those characters is like forcing me to eat a bowl of crap if I want to ride the ferris wheel. Personally, I think this attempt to be more dramatic and 'filmy' is misguided, but I can appreciate what they're trying to do. But if that's the case, I'm so far not impressed with the cast they've introduced. : Try putting yourself in his shoes. : His ship has just been pulled inside a hollow planet and is trapped. : Here's a big one: the reason the ship was put into a position that allowed it : to be sucked in was because he was responding to a distress call which, to : his knowledge at the time, was originating from Cortana and the Master : Chief . : It was knocked to the ground and damaged, whereupon it came under mass attack : by Covenant and a completely unknown hostile force that would come to be : known as Prometheans. : This also puts them into a First Contact scenario. : He knows his ship is damaged and vulnerable, and it's the pride of the UNSC. : There is a huge responsibility on his shoulders, both lives and equipment. : He knows Cortana has exceeded her lifespan, but let's note that he doesn't : order her decommissioned immediately. : Actually, he let's her data chip be inserted into Infinity ! : The Master Chief might be a hero, but he's also been MIA for 5 years. Del Rio : doesn't know him personally and a certain caution is quite justified. : Anything could have happened in that time which may have affected his : mental stability. : He's actually quite reasonable to start with, about saying they have to : follow protocol and leave. : Then Cortana has her little rampancy fit, sending a surge throughout the : bridge. : That was a tipping point. Only then does he order her decommissioned. Why : wouldn't he after that? : Then John refuses the firm, but not rabid, order to give him Cortana's chip. : Only now do things really tip over and starts screaming. : Let's remember again that he probably blames the two of them for getting his : ship in this position to start with because of the distress signal. : Then his own crew starts hesitating to carry out his orders, which just : exacerbates things. : In short, I think there are quite a few reasons why he acts the way he does. : He's also not as outright unaccommodating as we tend to think either. : Massive stress can explain why he's not a barrel of laughs. : Cortana's evident instability takes things to the boiling point, but it's : John's refusal to surrender her (Both disobeying an order in the most : direct sense, but also in breach of UNSC Regulations regarding AI's) that : makes him explode. : It's not good form that he flips like that, absolutely not... : ...but it's also kind of understandable.

Message Index

whining about Del Rio	Jabberwok	2/16/13 2:37 p.m.
So to sum it up.	gamerguy2002	2/16/13 3:22 p.m.
Re: So to sum it up.	Schooly D	2/16/13 3:30 p.m.
Perhaps the goods sold are OK.	Arithmomaniac	2/16/13 3:51 p.m.
Re: So to sum it up.	Bry	2/16/13 3:54 p.m.
Re: So to sum it up.	uberfoop	2/16/13 3:55 p.m.
Hate him	SonGoharotto	2/16/13 3:26 p.m.
Re: Hate him	Jabberwok	2/16/13 3:38 p.m.
I enjoyed him	serpx	2/16/13 3:40 p.m.
Re: I enjoyed him	Jabberwok	2/16/13 3:59 p.m.
Re: I enjoyed him	SonGoharotto	2/16/13 4:26 p.m.
Re: I enjoyed him	Bry	2/16/13 5:24 p.m.
Re: I enjoyed him	Jabberwok	2/16/13 6:12 p.m.
Re: I enjoyed him	davidfuchs	2/17/13 3:26 p.m.
Re: I enjoyed him	uberfoop	2/17/13 3:29 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	uberfoop	2/16/13 3:54 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	Quirel	2/16/13 6:02 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	Bry	2/16/13 4:05 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	SonGoharotto	2/16/13 4:23 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	Bry	2/16/13 5:31 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	uberfoop	2/16/13 5:47 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	SonGoharotto	2/16/13 7:09 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	Bry	2/16/13 7:53 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	Jabberwok	2/16/13 4:30 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	Bry	2/16/13 5:57 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	Jabberwok	2/16/13 6:40 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	uberfoop	2/16/13 7:02 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	Jabberwok	2/16/13 7:14 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	scarab	2/16/13 7:57 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	uberfoop	2/16/13 8:03 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	scarab	2/16/13 8:44 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	Def Guru 7777	2/16/13 8:39 p.m.
Re: whining about Del Rio	Quirel	2/17/13 11:05 p.m.
They just used him for 'Infinity, exit stage left'	kornman00	2/16/13 10:30 p.m.
Whoa there.	uberfoop	2/16/13 10:37 p.m.
That game looks amazing!!! *NM*	RC Master	2/17/13 8:32 a.m.