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Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5
Posted By: Quirel <I_am_quirel@hotmail.com>Date: 1/22/13 1:53 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5 (Postmortem)


: Now this... this is just damn interesting. And not similar to anything I
: expected to come out of this round. But I like it.

=D

: In the Forerunner trilogy, there's been a lot said about the Forerunner's
: attention to aesthetics. In fact, Bear even went out of his way to tell us
: that the Forerunners like wearing hats for different purposes and
: occasions, to accentuate their appearances and function.

Great. Now I've got a mental image of a Forerunner cosplaying as a Pandaren. Don't know where that came from. But now that you mention it, I do remember reading something like that in Cryptum, and I had a mental image of Forerunner wearing a Vietnamese hat and Chinese-style robes. But even though I enjoyed Cryptum, I didn't pour through the details like I would have with a UNSC or Covenant-centric novel. Maybe it's time to read Cryptum again.

: So how would they treat individuals who choose to almost entirely reject
: appearances and focus solely on the bare necessities? I imagine they'd
: have a lot of respect for them, but that at the same time they wouldn't be
: highlighted for all other Forerunners to see. In fact, I see it being a
: lot like the Guild Navigators from Dune. Respected to no end, vitally
: important to the continuation of society... but hidden from view, rarely
: seen because their physical forms are so hideous that most people prefer
: not to see them.

I think that it would be hard to tell if a Forerunner has gone through this mutation if he didn't want it to be known. Even if you disregard Hardlight, there's regular holographics and the Forerunner body-assist armor to cover the prosthesis and keep the Warrior-Servant 'normal' looking. Come to think of it, they might also socialize via telepresence.
But you have a point. I didn't think that this would be a mutation desired by sociable Forerunner. In fact, I thought that they would stay secluded within their vehicles for years or decades at a time.
If a higher ranking Warrior-Servant rate can get their opinion, he'll probably listen to it, but nobody's going to be inviting them to formal ceremonies unless they have to.

: That would be how I'd see it if these Forerunners - who I think should be
: labeled "Operators", not Warrior-Servants (because the
: Warrior-Servants I think have to be physically capable without the
: assistance of technology as well) - were to push this idea further even
: than you've depicted it.

I only referred to them as “Warrior-Servants” because that's the rate they would fall under, like a gardener would probably be a Lifeworker. Operators would be a good term for them. I also like “Directors” or “Overseers”, because they would definitely be coordinating a Sentinel escort in combat. “Foremen” works perfectly, but it's a little too close to “Forerunner” for my taste.

: But you did go out of your way to indicate that
: they do still favor aesthetics, thus keeping their head, eyes, and other
: organs to assist with communicating and socializing.

Credit also goes to Ghosts in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex: 2nd Gig. In that season, they mentioned that people with a full-body prosthetic will often get custom faces made, and some sculptors have made a career out of that.
And there's also that one picture of Kusinagi hooked up to a dozen data cables. =D

Come to think of it, part of the genesis for the whole “Overseer” idea lies with Ghost in the Shell: Innocence. There were security officers in the Locus Solus factory that Kusinagi killed, but all we ever saw of them were these suits that were plugged into the factory's hardware. It didn't look like they could ever physically leave their posts. Were they humans, or were they automatons given the spark of life though the same barbaric practices the company used to manufacture their gynoid models?

: Personally, I really want to see one of these guys with all the prosthetic
: limbs attached, walking across a Forerunner structure with a bunch of
: other forms surrounding him. Maybe some different variations on that as
: well.

I had an idea for a scene on the deck of a Forerunner cruiser. Remember in District 9, how Wikus was piloting the Prawn exoskeleton, and the chest split open so he could talk to Christopher? Something like that, with an Overseer conversing face-to-face with the Didact.

: I just find it very fitting to think about 343's Forerunner
: borrowing a few design choices from the Protoss. I think it would mesh
: very well.

Couldn't hurt.
I also used the cover to “Shadow Hunters” as a reference for the proportions of a humanoid head, so there's another StarCraft connection. On the other hand, a certain edition to “The Man in the High Castle” was great inspiration for the torso.

: The only issue I have with this is that I don't see them communicating
: telepathically like the Protoss... oh wait, the Didact did that in Halo 4.
: Yeah... nevermind.

The prosthesis would let them communicate over the radio, and whatever else the Forerunner use to send messages. So no, no midichlorians involved.
I imagine that their combat skin would take up the slack, letting them talk much in the same way that a Hunter does. I hope so, at least. It would suck to pilot a Forerunner Tank and not be able to shout “POWER OVERWHELMING!”

: Anyways, good job on this. I like it, because it gets my thoughts rolling. :)

Glad you liked it!


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Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Postmortem 1/6/13 11:21 p.m.
     Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5TDSpiral 1/6/13 11:34 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Postmortem 1/6/13 11:45 p.m.
     Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Hedgemony 1/6/13 11:50 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5SonGoharotto 1/6/13 11:59 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Ragashingo 1/7/13 12:34 a.m.
                       Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5padraig08 1/7/13 11:13 a.m.
                             *shrubbery *NM*padraig08 1/7/13 11:14 a.m.
                                   One that looks nice and not too expensive. *NM*SonGoharotto 1/7/13 1:25 p.m.
                                         Ni! *NM*Ragashingo 1/7/13 1:43 p.m.
                                               ^ Fixed.Chewbaccawakka 1/7/13 2:17 p.m.
                                                     Nuuuuuuuuuu! *NM*thebruce0 1/8/13 9:07 a.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5The Lionheart 1/7/13 12:59 a.m.
     Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5The Lionheart 1/7/13 1:04 a.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5TDSpiral 1/7/13 2:24 a.m.
                 Very true! Very true.The Lionheart 1/7/13 4:38 a.m.
     Visualizing the Halo Universe ReminderPostmortem 1/18/13 10:09 a.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe ReminderQuirel 1/20/13 4:45 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe ReminderPostmortem 1/20/13 4:48 p.m.
                       Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe ReminderQuirel 1/20/13 5:00 p.m.
                             Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe ReminderPostmortem 1/20/13 6:21 p.m.
     Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5davidfuchs 1/20/13 8:43 a.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Postmortem 1/21/13 5:43 p.m.
     Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5TDSpiral 1/20/13 2:00 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Quirel 1/21/13 3:39 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Postmortem 1/21/13 6:00 p.m.
                 Changes to how this is run.PriorMarcus 1/21/13 9:06 p.m.
                       Re: Changes to how this is run.Postmortem 1/21/13 10:10 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5The Lionheart 1/24/13 3:27 a.m.
     Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Quirel 1/21/13 2:05 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Postmortem 1/21/13 2:22 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Quirel 1/21/13 3:37 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Postmortem 1/21/13 6:12 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Quirel 1/22/13 1:53 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5scarab 1/30/13 5:45 a.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5General Vagueness 1/30/13 5:09 p.m.
                       Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5scarab 1/31/13 2:50 a.m.
                             Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5General Vagueness 1/31/13 12:18 p.m.
                                   Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5scarab 1/31/13 1:38 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Quirel 2/2/13 7:28 p.m.
                       Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5scarab 2/3/13 10:52 a.m.
     Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPostmortem 1/21/13 2:20 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryQuirel 1/21/13 3:49 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPostmortem 1/21/13 5:26 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 Summarythebruce0 1/21/13 5:35 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 Summarythebruce0 1/22/13 9:25 a.m.
                       Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPostmortem 1/22/13 10:50 a.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryTDSpiral 1/21/13 8:32 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPostmortem 1/21/13 10:13 p.m.
                       Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryTDSpiral 1/22/13 2:17 a.m.
                             Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPriorMarcus 1/22/13 9:48 a.m.
                                   Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPostmortem 1/22/13 10:43 a.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryGeneral Vagueness 1/21/13 9:44 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPostmortem 1/21/13 10:20 p.m.
           My thoughtsSl'askia 1/21/13 10:24 p.m.
                 Re: My thoughtsPostmortem 1/21/13 10:30 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryMacGyver10 1/22/13 1:06 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPostmortem 1/22/13 1:10 p.m.
           Hmph.The Lionheart 1/24/13 3:41 a.m.
     Orator of the Mantle *IMG*TDSpiral 1/22/13 5:41 a.m.
           Re: Orator of the Mantle *IMG*Grizzlei 1/22/13 5:46 a.m.
                 Re: Orator of the Mantle *IMG*TDSpiral 1/22/13 5:51 a.m.
           This is badass.Postmortem 1/22/13 11:06 a.m.
                 ^This.^ *NM*The Lionheart 1/24/13 3:02 a.m.
           Re: Orator of the Mantle UpdatedTDSpiral 1/22/13 5:56 p.m.
                 Re: Orator of the Mantle UpdatedGrimBrother One 1/22/13 6:15 p.m.
                 Now has a faceTDSpiral 1/23/13 3:15 a.m.
                       Re: Now has a facePostmortem 1/23/13 10:52 a.m.
                             Again, this.^^The Lionheart 1/24/13 3:09 a.m.
           Re: Orator of the Mantle *IMG*Padraig08 1/22/13 7:37 p.m.
     Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Vincent 1/22/13 1:16 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Postmortem 1/22/13 1:18 p.m.



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