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Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 Summary
Posted By: Quirel <I_am_quirel@hotmail.com>Date: 1/21/13 3:49 p.m.

In Response To: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 Summary (Postmortem)


: It would seem that every new round that I post ends up with less and less
: participants each week. This time around, we received two submissions, one
: of which - while amazing - didn't cover the subject matter, and the other
: which covered only the most basic of ideas visually, while the rest went
: down in writing.

Here's some thoughts, probably not shared by the HBO community:

Week one was the Didact.
Week four was Precursers.
Week five was Forerunner Mutations.

Honestly, it's just not that interesting.
Forerunner act more as a backdrop to the Halo story, and that's how they work the best.
A few years ago, we had the Forerunner's artefacts to work with. We knew that they, or at least some of them, had six-fingered hands. We knew that they wore combat skins. Back then, I think we could have gotten some good results from this round of the competition. But now, we know what Forerunner look like, and it's nothing special.

And what's a Precursor look like? Hell if I know. And it doesn't leave much room for debate if there literally is no answer.

Your best contests were #1, #2 and #3.
The first one was Didact, who we knew from the books. At the time, he was a pretty hot topic, and it was also the first round of the contest.

The other two were, well, more familiar.
I absolutely loved the second round. Not just because I won or because I'm a hardware junkie, but because we had to look at the comics and books, and explore the universe just a few steps outside the scope of the stories. And that's my favorite darn thing to do.

The third round was similar: envision the female counterpart of a well-known species. Better yet, because of the kvetching over that one Legends episode, plenty of people had their own idea of what a female Sangheili looked like.

: I was hoping to see Forerunners with six arms, Forerunners with diminutive
: forms for working in tight quarters, Forerunners adapted to a lifetime of
: piloting vehicles in deep space or Forerunners mutated in order to become
: caretakers of aquatic life. I was expecting and hoping to see new forms,
: and what we've got are essentially 'basic' Forerunner forms. Two arms, two
: legs, all the features we've already seen on Forerunners before now, and
: no real sense of scale.

Hope to have satisfied you, somewhat.
But honestly, I feel that this should have gone in the original post."Design a Forerunner that doesn't look like a Human" is a much better start than "Design a version of a Forerunner... yeah, those rubber-forehead aliens that grow fangs for no gorram reason."

You might have picked this up from my entry, but I'm getting tired of anthropocentrism in science fiction.

Anyhow, you showed us a line of Forerunner models that are really just taller/shorter humanoids with different helmets. Then you said "Your goal is to create your own form that could sit comfortably in this line."

*Shrugs*
I think that was a mistake.

: Perhaps I was correct in assuming that removing any incentive for
: participation was a bad decision.

Perhaps. Perhaps not.

: Things started out pretty well for this little idea I had. It got featured on
: the Waypoint blog by BSAngel, it received support from another member of
: 343 Industries with physical prizes of the limited sort to give away
: (which I never made it to before people suggested removing prizes), it was
: spread throughout the waypoint forums and other Halo websites... and now
: it's fallen down to two submissions per week.

Have you tried advertising it on the Waypoint forums, or are you not yet that desperate?

: Of all the subjects, I thought for sure that one which required less
: attention to the canon and more flow of creativity would have been a lot
: of fun for people to participate in.

Sometimes, creativity needs structure to be built upon.
In fact, the worst turnout was for the round which required the least attention to canon.

: What am I doing wrong?

: Please let me know.

Something that's been on my mind for a while:

You give us two weeks to make this art, which is definitely enough time. But there's a dead week where there's not much to do besides look ahead to the next contest.

I think that, in the summary post for each contest, you should state the general topic of the next round. That way, even if we don't know the rules, we're thinking about the general idea.


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Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Postmortem 1/6/13 11:21 p.m.
     Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5TDSpiral 1/6/13 11:34 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Postmortem 1/6/13 11:45 p.m.
     Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Hedgemony 1/6/13 11:50 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5SonGoharotto 1/6/13 11:59 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Ragashingo 1/7/13 12:34 a.m.
                       Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5padraig08 1/7/13 11:13 a.m.
                             *shrubbery *NM*padraig08 1/7/13 11:14 a.m.
                                   One that looks nice and not too expensive. *NM*SonGoharotto 1/7/13 1:25 p.m.
                                         Ni! *NM*Ragashingo 1/7/13 1:43 p.m.
                                               ^ Fixed.Chewbaccawakka 1/7/13 2:17 p.m.
                                                     Nuuuuuuuuuu! *NM*thebruce0 1/8/13 9:07 a.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5The Lionheart 1/7/13 12:59 a.m.
     Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5The Lionheart 1/7/13 1:04 a.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5TDSpiral 1/7/13 2:24 a.m.
                 Very true! Very true.The Lionheart 1/7/13 4:38 a.m.
     Visualizing the Halo Universe ReminderPostmortem 1/18/13 10:09 a.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe ReminderQuirel 1/20/13 4:45 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe ReminderPostmortem 1/20/13 4:48 p.m.
                       Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe ReminderQuirel 1/20/13 5:00 p.m.
                             Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe ReminderPostmortem 1/20/13 6:21 p.m.
     Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5davidfuchs 1/20/13 8:43 a.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Postmortem 1/21/13 5:43 p.m.
     Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5TDSpiral 1/20/13 2:00 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Quirel 1/21/13 3:39 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Postmortem 1/21/13 6:00 p.m.
                 Changes to how this is run.PriorMarcus 1/21/13 9:06 p.m.
                       Re: Changes to how this is run.Postmortem 1/21/13 10:10 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5The Lionheart 1/24/13 3:27 a.m.
     Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Quirel 1/21/13 2:05 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Postmortem 1/21/13 2:22 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Quirel 1/21/13 3:37 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Postmortem 1/21/13 6:12 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Quirel 1/22/13 1:53 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5scarab 1/30/13 5:45 a.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5General Vagueness 1/30/13 5:09 p.m.
                       Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5scarab 1/31/13 2:50 a.m.
                             Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5General Vagueness 1/31/13 12:18 p.m.
                                   Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5scarab 1/31/13 1:38 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Quirel 2/2/13 7:28 p.m.
                       Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5scarab 2/3/13 10:52 a.m.
     Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPostmortem 1/21/13 2:20 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryQuirel 1/21/13 3:49 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPostmortem 1/21/13 5:26 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 Summarythebruce0 1/21/13 5:35 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 Summarythebruce0 1/22/13 9:25 a.m.
                       Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPostmortem 1/22/13 10:50 a.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryTDSpiral 1/21/13 8:32 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPostmortem 1/21/13 10:13 p.m.
                       Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryTDSpiral 1/22/13 2:17 a.m.
                             Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPriorMarcus 1/22/13 9:48 a.m.
                                   Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPostmortem 1/22/13 10:43 a.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryGeneral Vagueness 1/21/13 9:44 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPostmortem 1/21/13 10:20 p.m.
           My thoughtsSl'askia 1/21/13 10:24 p.m.
                 Re: My thoughtsPostmortem 1/21/13 10:30 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryMacGyver10 1/22/13 1:06 p.m.
                 Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe Round 5 SummaryPostmortem 1/22/13 1:10 p.m.
           Hmph.The Lionheart 1/24/13 3:41 a.m.
     Orator of the Mantle *IMG*TDSpiral 1/22/13 5:41 a.m.
           Re: Orator of the Mantle *IMG*Grizzlei 1/22/13 5:46 a.m.
                 Re: Orator of the Mantle *IMG*TDSpiral 1/22/13 5:51 a.m.
           This is badass.Postmortem 1/22/13 11:06 a.m.
                 ^This.^ *NM*The Lionheart 1/24/13 3:02 a.m.
           Re: Orator of the Mantle UpdatedTDSpiral 1/22/13 5:56 p.m.
                 Re: Orator of the Mantle UpdatedGrimBrother One 1/22/13 6:15 p.m.
                 Now has a faceTDSpiral 1/23/13 3:15 a.m.
                       Re: Now has a facePostmortem 1/23/13 10:52 a.m.
                             Again, this.^^The Lionheart 1/24/13 3:09 a.m.
           Re: Orator of the Mantle *IMG*Padraig08 1/22/13 7:37 p.m.
     Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Vincent 1/22/13 1:16 p.m.
           Re: Visualizing the Halo Universe: Round 5Postmortem 1/22/13 1:18 p.m.



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