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| Re: Many HBO peeps have blocked out the truth | |
| Posted By: scarab | Date: 3/25/12 5:06 a.m. |
In Response To: Re: Many HBO peeps have blocked out the truth (yakaman) : The Haloverse moved on though, and I moved with it in order to enjoy it. I : think part of your point here is extremely prescient: I can no longer : muster the fervor for story speculation I once did. Part of that could be that we have been at this for YEARS, its over a decade now. But I think that there is more to it. With the Forerunner books we are either rehashing a solved mystery or the canon has been broken. If the canon has been broken then we can rely on nothing - anything that was said can be disappeared. Why speculate or why build a chain of evidence when some of that evidence can be invalidated by fiat? (Those Italian car makers can be such bastards ;-)) But if 343i are just trying to go into the H==F idea in detail and if they were trying to keep it mysterious then they would have to make it possible for Fs and Hs to not know the truth. So Bear would have to write the story in such a way that he could avoid having Fs and Hs look stupid. So the Forerunner trilogy could be a good faith attempt to tell the F==H story. Note: back in the day I genuinely believed that F==H, not because I was wedded to the idea, it was because I genuinely believed that it was Bungie's intention. With the new trilogy I genuinely don't know where it will go and I only mention this alternate because its one of the possibilities and I want to see what I think about it. And discuss general Halo story stuff. I may have missed some stuff in the books that absolutely shows that F!=H (Forerunner NOT equal Humans). If anyone knows of anything that definitely shows F!=H then please post it in a reply. It would save time that could be wasted going down an unproductive path. I haven't really gotten into the Forerunner books. The geas idea and the multiple personalities have been a real turn off for me. The multiple personalities within one body mean that you can never know a character or what the character/meat-unit could/will do. You can't make predictions about possible behavior - it totally depends on which character is in the driving seat an any given time. We can't even list all the characters within one body because, I think that, there was a time for each host where the host was unaware that it contained a character. So new characters can be added at any time, new needs/drives can be added at will in order to serve plot. This helps an author drive plot without worrying about consistency or verisimilitude but its such a cheap cop-out. Its no good for the reader. The geas just compounds the problem. The 'characters' are just meat robots that can be moved about at the author's whim. Want your chess pieces to go over there? Can't be arsed working out why they would do that? No problem: just say that the geas made them do it. I can't get engaged in the characters or their motivations. Maybe I am wrong to think that the inner-voices are there to provide motivation. Maybe that's the geas' role and the role of the inner-voices is exposition. For me, the combination of the two things makes the Forerunner books a dry exercise in exposition which is why I resent spending any time in non-exposition, bothering about what the characters/inner-voices inside the meat units may be thinking or feeling. Or wasting ink in telling us how many days they walked in direction X. What do the Geth call their bodies? Mobile units? What about the Chief's geas - it explains his ability to press X. But did we need to invent a magic compulsion? Maybe the light-bridge activation button was the biggest thing on that panel. Maybe it had a blink tag. If the Chief has a geas and if he has inner-voices then both of Cortana's roles become redundant. She can bugger off and become rampant and the Chief will still have guidance.
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