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Re: Is that your best response? | |
Posted By: Stephen L. (SoundEffect) <soundeffect@hotmail.com> | Date: 3/7/10 10:44 a.m. |
In Response To: Re: Is that your best response? (scarab) : Don't even try to put words into my mouth. : Are you arguing that acceptance of a religion absolves you from any
: It sounds like a moral get-out-of-jail-free card and is itself an innately
: And we are talking about whether people have valid reasons to dislike the
: We know from the conversations booklet that some Elites questioned the
: So his religion and culture can not be claimed to be totally deterministic of
: It is doubtful that the Arbiter openly questioned the genocide because he
: I think that it is untenable to suggest that he was really a secret Human
: That is not the important event because he could have been acting out of self
: We will never know if he would have made a similar action in the original
: No doubt? : I don't have a copy of the book so I can't review it to form an opinion. : We have to know that there were children there and that the Spartans knew
: I don't remember the book that well. : If you manage to establish that the Chief knowingly murdered children then
: But you will not have increased my respect for the Arbiter. : How could he have saved the people on the asteroid? Was the asteroid
: They were agents of a totalitarian (or at least oppressive) regime. I have
: I was unaware of this side of the story when I played Halo and h2. It does
: That didn't help much when I was plodding through the early Arbiter levels in
: I also had to kill the one Elite that I would have had some interest in
: And I was never interested in the Arbiter's redemption. Why should it be all
: Why should I feel a warm glow if he gets to feel a bit better about himself
: Did he learn that genocide is bad or did he learn that this particular
: Did he ask Half-Jaw to forgo the glassing of Earth because he had become a
: -PS : I hope that this message isn't too long for Eiii Just to throw in a different perspective than has been tossed around...genocide, I have come to understand, is a term used when one group completely wipes out another group. This is normall a racial or ethnic distinction of groups, but in our sci-fi realm of Halo, it would extend to one species wiping out another. I don't think one would typically use the word genocide to refer to a child stomping on an anthill and completely wiping out that subspecies of ants. I would make the explicit comparison that to the Covenant in general, humans were not placed in any higher regard than ants. They weren't viewed as equals and were probably barely acknowledged as sentient.
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