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Re: lol feminism
Posted By: slothboy <slothomatic@gmail.com>Date: 10/2/09 12:51 p.m.

In Response To: lol feminism (Cody Miller)


I didn't find the sexist comments to be out of character. I know feminists like to envision a world where everyone wears bulky unitards and nobody knows who is a boy or girl until they get naked, but the reality of the situation is that there will always be sexist men who will oogle an attractive woman. I'm not saying that is good, but I'm saying it's realistic and portraying it doesn't necessarily glorify it. I think you are supposed to feel like Mickey is an idiot for saying that. At least I did.

The running sexual tension between Buck and Dare is also something that is expected and will probably become more of an issue as women become more prevalent in the military. You can try to enforce "No Dating" policies as much as you want, but the simple fact is that there will be situations where a man and a woman have had relations and now one or the other of them is in a position of leadership above the other. This will not go smoothly all the time. Especially if the relationship did not end well.

Buck's comments and interaction with Dare were unprofessional from a military standpoint, but expected from a human standpoint. I feel like Dare is a strong character with a specific mission that she will go to great lengths to accomplish. She has probably had to overcome hurdles to get where she is but when push comes to shove she gives orders and people follow them.

If Buck got too gooey over her and felt like he wanted to "rescue" her, well, he's got some obvious emotional baggage. I think that reflects more poorly on him than it does Dare as a character. She can't control the fact that he wants to "save" her. And she doesn't rely on him alone. When the rookie shows up she doesn't say "Sorry, we have to wait for Buck." she says, "OK, I didn't expect to see you but let's go finish this mission." It wasn't that she needed Buck to retrieve the SI, it was that she needed some kind of backup. Based on history she assumed it would be Buck that responded first to her distress call, but she was more than happy to work with whatever assets she acquired.


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lol feminismCody Miller 10/2/09 12:03 p.m.
     Re: lol feminismEiii 10/2/09 12:34 p.m.
           Re: lol feminismPhat Bob 10/2/09 12:48 p.m.
                 Re: lol feminismslothboy 10/2/09 12:56 p.m.
                       DudeJillybean 10/2/09 12:59 p.m.
                             Beat me to itEiii 10/2/09 1:00 p.m.
                             Re: Dudeslothboy 10/2/09 1:08 p.m.
                                   Re: DudeEiii 10/2/09 1:10 p.m.
                                         Re: Dudeslothboy 10/2/09 1:19 p.m.
                                               Re: DudeBry 10/2/09 1:22 p.m.
                                                     Re: DudeEiii 10/2/09 1:25 p.m.
                                                     Re: Dudeslothboy 10/2/09 1:33 p.m.
                                                           Re: DudeBry 10/2/09 2:12 p.m.
                                                                 Does anybody like Miranda? *NM*scarab 10/3/09 6:24 a.m.
                                                           Re: Dudekanbo 10/2/09 3:09 p.m.
                                                                 This is a good postMiguel Chavez 10/2/09 11:48 p.m.
                                                                 Her leader power is frigidity! Nuff Said *NM*scarab 10/3/09 6:25 a.m.
                                   Dude where's my AINarcogen 10/2/09 9:36 p.m.
                                         This is a good postMiguel Chavez 10/2/09 11:48 p.m.
                                               I agreeJillybean 10/3/09 4:38 a.m.
                                         Re: Excellently putThorsHammer 10/3/09 10:30 a.m.
           In response to the articleDustbunny27 10/3/09 4:49 p.m.
     Re: lol feminismslothboy 10/2/09 12:51 p.m.
           Re: lol feminism *poss SPBry 10/2/09 1:04 p.m.
                 But she needed help! That's weak! *NM*Eiii 10/2/09 1:12 p.m.
     Re: lol feminismkanbo 10/2/09 12:54 p.m.
           Re: lol feminismslothboy 10/2/09 12:58 p.m.
           Re: lol feminismDojorkan 10/2/09 1:32 p.m.
     Re: lol feminismGeneral Vagueness 10/2/09 12:57 p.m.
     Re: lol feminismCaptain Spark 10/2/09 1:01 p.m.
           Re: lol feminismJillybean 10/2/09 1:11 p.m.
                 Re: lol feminismEiii 10/2/09 1:24 p.m.
                       Re: lol feminismJillybean 10/2/09 1:31 p.m.
                             Re: lol feminismEiii 10/2/09 2:05 p.m.
                             Re: lol feminismGeneral Vagueness 10/2/09 2:22 p.m.
                                   Re: lol feminismkanbo 10/2/09 3:12 p.m.
                                         Can't rape what isn't there! *NM*Eiii 10/2/09 3:40 p.m.
                                               Re: Can't rape what isn't there!Hawaiian Pig 10/2/09 4:55 p.m.
                                                     Re: Can't rape what isn't there!Ze Moose 10/2/09 5:31 p.m.
                                                     Re: Can't rape what isn't there!Jillybean 10/2/09 6:37 p.m.
                                                           Re: Can't rape what isn't there!Hawaiian Pig 10/2/09 6:57 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Can't rape what isn't there!Jillybean 10/2/09 7:07 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Can't rape what isn't there!ThorsHammer 10/3/09 11:05 a.m.
                 Re: lol feminismCaptain Spark 10/2/09 2:32 p.m.
                       Re: lol feminismMiguel Chavez 10/2/09 4:18 p.m.
                             Re: lol feminismGeneral Vagueness 10/2/09 4:48 p.m.
                             Re: lol feminismCaptain Spark 10/2/09 6:17 p.m.
                             Re: END THIS THREAD PLEASEHedgemony 10/2/09 6:36 p.m.
                                   Re: END THIS THREAD PLEASEEiii 10/2/09 7:09 p.m.
                                   Re: END THIS THREAD PLEASECody Miller 10/2/09 7:23 p.m.
                                         r-really? *NM*Hawaiian Pig 10/2/09 7:29 p.m.
                                         You are dumb *NM*Eiii 10/2/09 7:30 p.m.
                                               Oh crap now it just looks like I'm agreeing with h *NM*Eiii 10/2/09 7:34 p.m.
                                                     with hp, captain handsome awesome. *NM*Hawaiian Pig 10/2/09 7:45 p.m.
                                         Re:CodyHedgemony 10/2/09 7:57 p.m.
                                               Re:CodyCody Miller 10/2/09 8:08 p.m.
                                                     Re:Cody who?Hedgemony 10/2/09 8:51 p.m.
                                                           Re:Cody who?Hawaiian Pig 10/2/09 9:08 p.m.
                                                                 Re:Cody who?Hawaiian Pig 10/2/09 9:13 p.m.
                                                                       Re:CodyHedgemony 10/2/09 9:53 p.m.
           Re: lol feminismUNSC_Trooper 10/2/09 1:12 p.m.
                 Re: lol feminismJillybean 10/2/09 1:14 p.m.
                       Re: lol feminismUNSC_Trooper 10/2/09 1:27 p.m.
     lol equality for allJillybean 10/2/09 1:51 p.m.
           Re: lol equality for allUNSC_Trooper 10/2/09 2:32 p.m.
                 pleaseGeneral Vagueness 10/2/09 4:54 p.m.
                       Re: pleaseHawaiian Pig 10/2/09 4:57 p.m.
           Re: lol equality for allHunt3r 10/2/09 2:39 p.m.
           Re: lol equality for allCody Miller 10/2/09 2:42 p.m.
                 Re: lol equality for allkanbo 10/2/09 3:03 p.m.
                       Re: lol equality for allJillybean 10/2/09 6:22 p.m.
                             Re: lol equality for allDHalo 10/2/09 6:39 p.m.
                 Re: lol equality for allJillybean 10/2/09 6:19 p.m.
           Re: lol equality for allPhotolysis 10/2/09 3:16 p.m.
     For her next article...Bones153 10/2/09 4:41 p.m.
           Re: For her next article...Eiii 10/2/09 5:41 p.m.
                 That's sarcasm, right? *NM* *NM*Bones153 10/2/09 5:45 p.m.
           I am totally guilty of thisJillybean 10/2/09 6:24 p.m.
                 Re: I am totally guilty of thisHawaiian Pig 10/2/09 6:35 p.m.
                       Re: I am totally guilty of thisJillybean 10/2/09 6:38 p.m.
                             Re: I am totally guilty of thisTex 10/2/09 6:46 p.m.
                                   Stop helping me *NM*Jillybean 10/2/09 6:51 p.m.
                                         I wish I could quit you.Tex 10/2/09 6:56 p.m.
                                               Re: I wish I could quit you.Jillybean 10/2/09 7:08 p.m.
                             Re: I am totally guilty of thisCody Miller 10/2/09 6:47 p.m.
                 Re: I am totally guilty of thisMiguel Chavez 10/3/09 12:42 a.m.
                       Re: I am totally guilty of thisCthulhu117 10/3/09 11:32 a.m.
     People think Dare was sexualized? LOL!Dustbunny27 10/3/09 11:27 a.m.
           Re: People think Dare was sexualized? LOL!Jillybean 10/3/09 3:10 p.m.
                 Re: People think Dare was sexualized? LOL!Dustbunny27 10/3/09 3:37 p.m.
     Re: lol feminismpsychophan7 10/3/09 11:37 a.m.
     I have a hard time grasping this, personally *IMG*Leviathan 10/3/09 12:18 p.m.
     Serious Question for the ladies... or maybe menDustbunny27 10/3/09 2:23 p.m.
           Re: Serious Question for the ladies... or maybe meLeviathan 10/3/09 3:02 p.m.
                 Okay, make a game for everyone then.Dustbunny27 10/3/09 3:34 p.m.
                       Re: Okay, make a game for everyone then.Leviathan 10/3/09 5:50 p.m.
           A couple that stand out for meJillybean 10/3/09 3:16 p.m.
                 Re: A couple that stand out for meCody Miller 10/3/09 4:01 p.m.
                       Re: A couple that stand out for meJillybean 10/3/09 4:40 p.m.
           Re: Serious Question for the ladies... or maybe meDocument 10/4/09 12:17 a.m.



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