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Re: Hah.
Posted By: Omega	Date: 11/4/07 11:04 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Hah. (58) : A fleet is not all the ships in the navy, but it is a representation of it - : if you have fifty thousand ships available, you damn well do not guard : your species' last worldship-containing-the-entire-population-of-your-race : with five hundred of them. High Charity had most of the prophet population living in it, with 500 Covenant capital ships (Cruisers and Supercarriers) surrounding it. Earth is the humans last world (if Lord Hood's words in Halo 3 are to be trusted), and only had 75 ships around it (as far as we know for sure), only eight of which were Cruisers. Remember that the fleet around High Charity wasn't the only large Covenant fleet we've seen. The fleet around the Unyielding Hierophant had 500 ships, and the fleet that attacked Reach had 300 ships. When the Unyielding Hierophant and its fleet were destroyed, the Prophet of Truth considered it an insignificant loss. : There is no standing garison at the UNSC colonies - recall that the Iroquois : was the only ship in-system at Sigma Octanus, and that was by chance? Keyes requests all ships in-system rendezvous with the Iroquois, and that all ships in neighboring systems make best speed there (FoR p.143). The Frigates Alliance and Gettysburg are at the system's edge just after Keyes makes the request, so are mostly likely patrolling the system at the same time as the Iroquois (FoR p.145). : Admiral Cole had fewer than thirty ships at his command, if I recall : correctly (the fleet that eventually arrived at Sigma Octanus was around : thirty ships, yes? It was larger than Cole's). Admiral Cole led an entire : campaign with those ships - Sigma Octanus was one of the largest battles : of the entire war. Four dozen ships joined the Iroquois at Sigma Octanus IV, so Cole probably had about 30-40 ships (at least 20 of which were lost). Additionally, the fleet that the Master Chief is part of during the prologue of Fall of Reach consists of 'dozens' of ships, could this be the remains of Admiral Cole's fleet? : The Covenant, which we all know was quite devout in its attempts to acquire : Forerunner artifacts, only committed about eight ships to that battle. If : they had thousands more, don't you think they would have used them? The Covenant dedicated 20 ships to that battle, and they got what they came for. : If they had thousands more, the war wouldn't have taken thirty years, it : would have taken a month. Even with the Cole Protocol, if you have that : many ships, you just dispatch a couple to each star until you find all the : planets and burn them. We don't know how much space the Covenant control. They might have a fleet of thousands spread across tens of thousands of conquered systems. A quick victory doesn't seem to be a very high priority of theirs. : The fact that there are only twenty Cruisers in the UNSC is enough to show : that the fleets are not as massive as they would be if there were eight : hundred populated colonies. : As I said before, I'm willing to accept there being eight hundred worlds with : humans on them, but actual colonies, I can't concieve of more than a : hundred or so. I'll agree to that. I was using the word 'colony' a little too loosely. What I meant was that the humans had an established settlement on over 800 worlds (even if that settlement was no more than a group of scientists in a dome). I would still reckon the total number of colonies to be up in the hundreds, though.

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Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	kr-1426	11/4/07 11:05 a.m.
Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	Cthulhu117	11/4/07 11:06 a.m.
Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	kr-1426	11/4/07 2:00 p.m.
Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	VVM	11/4/07 3:04 p.m.
Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	Cthulhu117	11/4/07 3:07 p.m.
Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	VVM	11/4/07 3:22 p.m.
Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	Cthulhu117	11/4/07 3:46 p.m.
Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	VVM	11/4/07 4:08 p.m.
Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	58	11/4/07 5:36 p.m.
Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	Bry	11/4/07 11:59 p.m.
Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	Deckard	11/5/07 12:36 a.m.
Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	kr-1426	11/5/07 5:33 a.m.
Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	Deckard	11/5/07 12:46 p.m.
Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	kr-1426	11/5/07 2:50 p.m.
Dekard was a real asshole	SinisterSamurai	11/6/07 1:35 a.m.
Yes, but was he human?	Narcogen	11/6/07 10:54 p.m.
Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	Louis Wu	11/4/07 6:53 p.m.
Hmm... that's really low...	Walshicus	11/4/07 11:14 a.m.
From the Halo timeline:	Jordan117	11/4/07 11:30 a.m.
Re: From the Halo timeline:	Dundradal	11/4/07 1:00 p.m.
Thanks *NM*	Jordan117	11/4/07 1:25 p.m.
Re: From the Halo timeline:	kr-1426	11/4/07 2:04 p.m.
Hah.	58	11/4/07 11:30 a.m.
Re: Hah.	BirDMaN	11/4/07 11:41 a.m.
Re: Hah.	58	11/4/07 1:09 p.m.
Re: Hah.	Thanatos119	11/4/07 1:15 p.m.
Re: Hah.	Orpheus	11/4/07 2:43 p.m.
Re: Hah.	kr-1426	11/4/07 3:08 p.m.
Re: Hah.	gspawn	11/4/07 3:12 p.m.
Re: Hah.	kr-1426	11/4/07 3:23 p.m.
Re: Hah.	Omega	11/4/07 5:23 p.m.
Re: Hah.	kr-1426	11/4/07 5:32 p.m.
Re: Hah.	58	11/4/07 5:47 p.m.
Re: Hah.	dude2	11/4/07 9:18 p.m.
Re: Hah.	58	11/4/07 9:27 p.m.
Re: Hah.	dude2	11/4/07 10:15 p.m.
Re: Hah.	Omega	11/4/07 11:04 p.m.
Re: Hah.	Walshicus	11/4/07 2:08 p.m.
Re: Hah.	VVM	11/4/07 3:08 p.m.
Re: Hah.	kr-1426	11/4/07 3:11 p.m.
Re: Hah.	58	11/4/07 3:33 p.m.
Re: Hah.	kr-1426	11/4/07 5:10 p.m.
That, I can believe. *NM*	58	11/4/07 5:35 p.m.
Re: Hah.	Orpheus	11/4/07 6:01 p.m.
Re: Hah.	kr-1426	11/4/07 6:18 p.m.
Re: Hah.	dude2	11/4/07 9:08 p.m.
Re: Hah.	Omega	11/4/07 10:26 p.m.
Um... not quite	Walshicus	11/6/07 1:26 p.m.
Re: Um... not quite	Omega	11/6/07 4:38 p.m.
Re: Hah.	Peptuck	11/4/07 7:40 p.m.
Re: Hah.	58	11/4/07 8:37 p.m.
Re: Hah.	Peptuck	11/5/07 1:01 a.m.
Re: Hah.	58	11/5/07 12:29 p.m.
Re: Hah.	Peptuck	11/5/07 8:11 p.m.
I assumed it was semantics.	Funkmon	11/4/07 4:55 p.m.
Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest	Korsriddare	11/5/07 9:47 p.m.
800 FTW	Devrous	11/12/07 3:18 p.m.
Contact Harvest *Spoilers* Above *NM*	Simpsons Rule	11/12/07 4:24 p.m.
Re: 800 FTW *sp*	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	11/12/07 7:07 p.m.
Re: 800 FTW *sp*	Devrous	11/13/07 12:36 a.m.
More! (+calculations) *Spoilers*	Devrous	11/13/07 3:34 a.m.
Re: More! (+calculations) *Spoilers*	kr-1426	11/13/07 2:31 p.m.