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Re: Hah.
Posted By: 58 <gundamx@adelphia.net>Date: 11/4/07 9:27 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Hah. (dude2)


: Forgive me but I can't totally understand whether you're considering that
: "a fleet" is not ALL the ships in the Navy. The largest Covenant
: fleet assembled was 500 ships, meaning a muster out of an indeterminately
: larger number more - no need to say that either the Covenant or the UNSC
: only have 500 ships. I might say at least 4 ships per colony for basic
: defense, making a base fleet of 3200, plus the 70ish at Earth alone
: (forgot the Reach defense stats...), we'll say maybe 4000 vessels counting
: less than 10 planets of Earth magnitude of importance. Sound reasonable?

: --dude

A fleet is not all the ships in the navy, but it is a representation of it - if you have fifty thousand ships available, you damn well do not guard your species' last worldship-containing-the-entire-population-of-your-race with five hundred of them.

There is no standing garison at the UNSC colonies - recall that the Iroquois was the only ship in-system at Sigma Octanus, and that was by chance?

Admiral Cole had fewer than thirty ships at his command, if I recall correctly (the fleet that eventually arrived at Sigma Octanus was around thirty ships, yes? It was larger than Cole's). Admiral Cole led an entire campaign with those ships - Sigma Octanus was one of the largest battles of the entire war.

The Covenant, which we all know was quite devout in its attempts to acquire Forerunner artifacts, only committed about eight ships to that battle. If they had thousands more, don't you think they would have used them?

If they had thousands more, the war wouldn't have taken thirty years, it would have taken a month. Even with the Cole Protocol, if you have that many ships, you just dispatch a couple to each star until you find all the planets and burn them.

The fact that there are only twenty Cruisers in the UNSC is enough to show that the fleets are not as massive as they would be if there were eight hundred populated colonies.

As I said before, I'm willing to accept there being eight hundred worlds with humans on them, but actual colonies, I can't concieve of more than a hundred or so.


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Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvestkr-1426 11/4/07 11:05 a.m.
     Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestCthulhu117 11/4/07 11:06 a.m.
           Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvestkr-1426 11/4/07 2:00 p.m.
                 Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestVVM 11/4/07 3:04 p.m.
                       Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestCthulhu117 11/4/07 3:07 p.m.
                             Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestVVM 11/4/07 3:22 p.m.
                                   Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestCthulhu117 11/4/07 3:46 p.m.
                                         Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestVVM 11/4/07 4:08 p.m.
                                               Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest58 11/4/07 5:36 p.m.
                                               Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestBry 11/4/07 11:59 p.m.
                                                     Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestDeckard 11/5/07 12:36 a.m.
                                                           Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvestkr-1426 11/5/07 5:33 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestDeckard 11/5/07 12:46 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvestkr-1426 11/5/07 2:50 p.m.
                                                                       Dekard was a real assholeSinisterSamurai 11/6/07 1:35 a.m.
                                                                             Yes, but was he human?Narcogen 11/6/07 10:54 p.m.
                                   Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestLouis Wu 11/4/07 6:53 p.m.
     Hmm... that's really low...Walshicus 11/4/07 11:14 a.m.
           From the Halo timeline:Jordan117 11/4/07 11:30 a.m.
                 Re: From the Halo timeline:Dundradal 11/4/07 1:00 p.m.
                       Thanks *NM*Jordan117 11/4/07 1:25 p.m.
                 Re: From the Halo timeline:kr-1426 11/4/07 2:04 p.m.
           Hah.58 11/4/07 11:30 a.m.
                 Re: Hah.BirDMaN 11/4/07 11:41 a.m.
                       Re: Hah.58 11/4/07 1:09 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.Thanatos119 11/4/07 1:15 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.Orpheus 11/4/07 2:43 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 3:08 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.gspawn 11/4/07 3:12 p.m.
                                         Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 3:23 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.Omega 11/4/07 5:23 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 5:32 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.58 11/4/07 5:47 p.m.
                                         Re: Hah.dude2 11/4/07 9:18 p.m.
                                               Re: Hah.58 11/4/07 9:27 p.m.
                                                     Re: Hah.dude2 11/4/07 10:15 p.m.
                                                     Re: Hah.Omega 11/4/07 11:04 p.m.
                 Re: Hah.Walshicus 11/4/07 2:08 p.m.
                 Re: Hah.VVM 11/4/07 3:08 p.m.
                       Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 3:11 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.58 11/4/07 3:33 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 5:10 p.m.
                                         That, I can believe. *NM*58 11/4/07 5:35 p.m.
                                         Re: Hah.Orpheus 11/4/07 6:01 p.m.
                                               Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 6:18 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.dude2 11/4/07 9:08 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.Omega 11/4/07 10:26 p.m.
                                         Um... not quiteWalshicus 11/6/07 1:26 p.m.
                                               Re: Um... not quiteOmega 11/6/07 4:38 p.m.
                 Re: Hah.Peptuck 11/4/07 7:40 p.m.
                       Re: Hah.58 11/4/07 8:37 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.Peptuck 11/5/07 1:01 a.m.
                                   Re: Hah.58 11/5/07 12:29 p.m.
                                         Re: Hah.Peptuck 11/5/07 8:11 p.m.
     I assumed it was semantics.Funkmon 11/4/07 4:55 p.m.
     Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestKorsriddare 11/5/07 9:47 p.m.
     800 FTWDevrous 11/12/07 3:18 p.m.
           Contact Harvest *Spoilers* Above *NM*Simpsons Rule 11/12/07 4:24 p.m.
           Re: 800 FTW *sp*Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 11/12/07 7:07 p.m.
                 Re: 800 FTW *sp*Devrous 11/13/07 12:36 a.m.
           More! (+calculations) *Spoilers*Devrous 11/13/07 3:34 a.m.
                 Re: More! (+calculations) *Spoilers*kr-1426 11/13/07 2:31 p.m.



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