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Re: Here's a novel concept...
Posted By: yakamanDate: 10/2/06 4:19 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Here's a novel concept... (Marine Corps 117)

The main problem I had with your post (and others within similar veins) is that it drew wide-ranging conclusions based on a couple minor items.

The HGN, while acknowledged as "canon", seems largely an artistic endeavor, and included stories meant to expand the universe and entertain. Although we all strive to draw concrete rules and laws, the whole deal is somewhat fluid.

Your basic point (that the guys and gals at Bungie have sold out, lost sight of the end goal, made large-scale errors in judgement, etc, etc, etc) is what really bothers me, but not because it is an affront to my opinions or that I'm not open to disagreements. It's that you are questioning the judgment and/or ability of world-class talent, people who are the best in the world at what they do. It's called loyalty.

I know everyone is entitled to an opinion. What I cannot get past is the arrogance of someone presuming to know better. Bungie is the best and they have proven it over and over and over. Peter Jackson is the best. Ensemble is the best. You have no idea about the big picture, but you feel you can bash away freely. It's not that you don't have a right - it's that I feel you're not even vaguely qualified to make such statements.

Of course you can say "I am qualified because I am the consumer"...that's always a convenient fall-back position. It just doesn't feel right in this context.

Lastly, I get upset because I'm guessing that sentiments like yours, made so damn early, make Bungie think their fans are a bunch of spoiled-rotten, thankless, entitled kids. They have provided me with the best games I have played - I will trust their judgement and ability.

Your post was civil, and I did not mean to insult.


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Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filmMarineCorps117 10/1/06 4:42 p.m.
     Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filGrunt_Lover 10/1/06 5:18 p.m.
           Um.Peptuck 10/1/06 5:42 p.m.
                 Re: Um.Sep7imus [subnova] 10/1/06 5:43 p.m.
                       worst typo ever *NM*Document 10/1/06 6:37 p.m.
                             Worst? or best? *NM*Peptuck 10/1/06 6:54 p.m.
                                   Best Placed *NM*Unsc Trafalgar 10/1/06 6:59 p.m.
                             Re: worst typo everSep7imus [subnova] 10/1/06 7:05 p.m.
                       Damn, Sept.Shishka 10/1/06 7:12 p.m.
                             Re: Damn, Sept.Sep7imus [subnova] 10/1/06 7:37 p.m.
                             Re: Damn, Sept.MarineCorps117 10/1/06 7:37 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.raptor117 10/1/06 7:51 p.m.
                                         "racism in science fiction" *NM*Document 10/1/06 8:27 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/1/06 8:08 p.m.
                                         Re: Damn, Sept.Count Zero 10/1/06 8:10 p.m.
                                               Re: Damn, Sept.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/1/06 8:14 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.Sir Blunt 10/1/06 8:12 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.Peptuck 10/1/06 8:37 p.m.
                                         I've got a wordHikaru-119 10/1/06 8:51 p.m.
                                               Re: I've got a wordPeptuck 10/1/06 8:55 p.m.
                                               Re: I've got a wordSchedonnardus 10/1/06 8:55 p.m.
                                                     Re: I've got a wordSep7imus [subnova] 10/1/06 9:48 p.m.
                                                           Re: I've got a wordSchedonnardus 10/1/06 10:12 p.m.
                                                                 in that spirit: troops. *NM*Document 10/1/06 11:19 p.m.
                                                                       Re: in that spirit: troops.Andrew Nagy 10/1/06 11:21 p.m.
                                                                             Re: in that spirit: troops.ShortRoundMcfly 10/2/06 12:43 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: in that spirit: troops.Document 10/2/06 12:45 a.m.
                                               Re: I've got a wordHipboyScott 10/1/06 10:29 p.m.
                                                     the dude abides *NM*Schedonnardus 10/1/06 10:40 p.m.
                                                     Re: I've got a wordPeptuck 10/1/06 10:42 p.m.
                                                           dude, where's my dropship? *NM*Schedonnardus 10/1/06 10:44 p.m.
                                                                 Flood's in your base, killing your d00ds. *NM*Peptuck 10/1/06 11:38 p.m.
                                                                       Soylent Green is d00dz! *NM*Schedonnardus 10/1/06 11:54 p.m.
                                         Re: Damn, Sept.Gordon Freeman 10/1/06 9:23 p.m.
                             HmmHawaiian Pig 10/1/06 8:19 p.m.
                             *sheds a tear*Hikaru-119 10/1/06 8:40 p.m.
                             Re: Damn, Sept.Cody Miller 10/1/06 10:14 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.mercury 10/2/06 5:49 p.m.
                             Re: Damn, Sept.Narcogen 10/1/06 10:27 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.Shishka 10/2/06 12:16 a.m.
                                         I fully disagree...DanteThePoet 10/2/06 12:51 a.m.
                                         Re: Damn, Sept.Endbringer 10/2/06 1:03 a.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/2/06 10:28 a.m.
                                         Re: Damn, Sept.Narcogen 10/3/06 12:39 a.m.
                             Here here. As shishka said.. have faith! *NM*Littlebigman 10/1/06 11:08 p.m.
                             Re: Damn, Sept.Brodingo 10/2/06 4:45 p.m.
                                   Oy.MarineCorps117 10/2/06 5:19 p.m.
                                         Re: Oy.mercury 10/2/06 5:37 p.m.
                                               Re: Oy.MarineCorps117 10/2/06 6:24 p.m.
                                                     Re: Oy.Peptuck 10/2/06 7:26 p.m.
                                                           Re: Oy.MarineCorps117 10/2/06 7:30 p.m.
                                         Re: Oy.Mister Froggy 10/2/06 7:21 p.m.
                                         Re: Oy.Peptuck 10/2/06 7:25 p.m.
           Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filslayer117 10/2/06 10:42 a.m.
                 Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filBaz 10/2/06 10:53 a.m.
     Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filPeptuck 10/1/06 5:40 p.m.
     Its all about the BenjaminsBeastIce 10/1/06 6:07 p.m.
     Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filWortWortWort 10/1/06 6:22 p.m.
           Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filMarineCorps117 10/1/06 7:28 p.m.
                 Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filPeptuck 10/1/06 8:39 p.m.
     that's easyGhaleonEB 10/1/06 7:10 p.m.
     Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filDojorkan 10/1/06 8:32 p.m.
           Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filBARBARIC RAGE 10/1/06 9:05 p.m.
                 Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filjman571 10/3/06 8:09 p.m.
           Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filcatsinspace 10/1/06 9:52 p.m.
                 Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filShortRoundMcfly 10/1/06 10:37 p.m.
                       Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo fil[AMS] GreyThor 10/1/06 11:43 p.m.
                             Re: Yeah, manShortRoundMcfly 10/1/06 11:59 p.m.
                       Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filRox 10/2/06 3:04 a.m.
     Go outside sometime. *NM*Paul 10/2/06 1:23 a.m.
     Always half empty with some *NM*Grey Wolf 10/2/06 2:07 a.m.
     Dual-wielding shotguns = MarathonChryton 10/2/06 3:21 a.m.
     Here's a novel concept...yakaman 10/2/06 7:26 a.m.
           Re: Here's a novel concept...mnemesis 10/2/06 10:56 a.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...Baz 10/2/06 11:03 a.m.
           Re: Here's a novel concept...Marine Corps 117 10/2/06 1:25 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/2/06 1:47 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...Louis Wu 10/2/06 1:53 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...Document 10/2/06 1:54 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...mercury 10/2/06 2:05 p.m.
                       Agreed. *NM*Document 10/2/06 2:18 p.m.
                       Re: Here's a novel concept...MarineCorps117 10/2/06 2:58 p.m.
                             Re: Here's a novel concept...Sep7imus [subnova] 10/2/06 3:25 p.m.
                                   Re: Here's a novel concept...Peptuck 10/2/06 3:49 p.m.
                                         Re: Here's a novel concept...Sep7imus [subnova] 10/2/06 4:19 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...yakaman 10/2/06 4:19 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...[AMS] GreyThor 10/2/06 4:26 p.m.
     question for the Bungie guysAngel_251 10/2/06 3:04 p.m.
           Re: question for the Bungie guysSep7imus [subnova] 10/2/06 3:27 p.m.
                 Re: question for the Bungie guysAngel_251 10/2/06 4:04 p.m.
           Re: question for the Bungie guysPeptuck 10/2/06 3:52 p.m.
                 Re: question for the Bungie guysAngel_251 10/2/06 4:05 p.m.
           Re: question for the Bungie guysKP 10/2/06 4:51 p.m.
                 I guess you missed the memo... *NM*Usul 10/2/06 5:06 p.m.
                 Re: question for the Bungie guysRoss Mills [subnova] 10/2/06 5:40 p.m.
                 Re: question for the Bungie guysmercury 10/2/06 5:42 p.m.
                 Re: question for the Bungie guysAngel_251 10/2/06 5:51 p.m.
     Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filTwelve Large 10/3/06 12:33 a.m.



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