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Re: Damn, Sept.
Posted By: EndbringerDate: 10/2/06 1:03 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Damn, Sept. (Shishka)

: Speaking of, since there was a brief debate about use of the word
: "men," I'd like to point out that one of the reasons I am not
: very big on fan fiction is because fanfic authors tend to try too hard to
: sound authentic. Essentially, they're trying so hard to make like they're
: accomplished authors with expertise in the Halo universe that they tend to
: write only for themselves, or rather, only for people that read Halo
: fanfiction. It'd be like Blizzard releasing a Warcraft Novel where they
: describe how powerful Shishka, Dark Warlock of The Burning Legion and
: Keeper of the Pants of Shadow is by calling him "Level 60."

Well now the question is Boxers of Darkness or Briefs of the Void?

: Put yourself in the situation. You're surrounded by monsters you've never
: seen before. Your team is falling dead left and right-- and then getting
: back up again as new enemies. Time is short and that damn Legate is being
: a pissant. Chances are you're not going to take a moment to pick
: honorifics out of a hat. You're going to go with the shortest word that
: comes to mind because you don't have time for formal crap.

: I discussed this here before, I think. Science Fiction often falls prey to
: devices that make it difficult to relate to the characters or story
: therein. Fanfiction is especially guilty of this, though I tend to think
: that authors are in general unaware of it. Why use "men" instead
: of some other word? Because it's quick, clean, and just as effective as
: any other word you could use. The longer you draw out the sentence by
: using more "appropriate" words, the more you take away the
: urgency Spec-Ops Commander is feeling, and the more the reader loses grasp
: of that same urgency. Sure, elites aren't human, so perhaps the male of
: the species cannot be called "men," but you won't see a human
: drill sergeant making exceptions because there's women in bootcamp. The
: word is not the point.

Sometimes we are so focused on that grain of sand we don't see the beach.


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Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filmMarineCorps117 10/1/06 4:42 p.m.
     Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filGrunt_Lover 10/1/06 5:18 p.m.
           Um.Peptuck 10/1/06 5:42 p.m.
                 Re: Um.Sep7imus [subnova] 10/1/06 5:43 p.m.
                       worst typo ever *NM*Document 10/1/06 6:37 p.m.
                             Worst? or best? *NM*Peptuck 10/1/06 6:54 p.m.
                                   Best Placed *NM*Unsc Trafalgar 10/1/06 6:59 p.m.
                             Re: worst typo everSep7imus [subnova] 10/1/06 7:05 p.m.
                       Damn, Sept.Shishka 10/1/06 7:12 p.m.
                             Re: Damn, Sept.Sep7imus [subnova] 10/1/06 7:37 p.m.
                             Re: Damn, Sept.MarineCorps117 10/1/06 7:37 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.raptor117 10/1/06 7:51 p.m.
                                         "racism in science fiction" *NM*Document 10/1/06 8:27 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/1/06 8:08 p.m.
                                         Re: Damn, Sept.Count Zero 10/1/06 8:10 p.m.
                                               Re: Damn, Sept.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/1/06 8:14 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.Sir Blunt 10/1/06 8:12 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.Peptuck 10/1/06 8:37 p.m.
                                         I've got a wordHikaru-119 10/1/06 8:51 p.m.
                                               Re: I've got a wordPeptuck 10/1/06 8:55 p.m.
                                               Re: I've got a wordSchedonnardus 10/1/06 8:55 p.m.
                                                     Re: I've got a wordSep7imus [subnova] 10/1/06 9:48 p.m.
                                                           Re: I've got a wordSchedonnardus 10/1/06 10:12 p.m.
                                                                 in that spirit: troops. *NM*Document 10/1/06 11:19 p.m.
                                                                       Re: in that spirit: troops.Andrew Nagy 10/1/06 11:21 p.m.
                                                                             Re: in that spirit: troops.ShortRoundMcfly 10/2/06 12:43 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: in that spirit: troops.Document 10/2/06 12:45 a.m.
                                               Re: I've got a wordHipboyScott 10/1/06 10:29 p.m.
                                                     the dude abides *NM*Schedonnardus 10/1/06 10:40 p.m.
                                                     Re: I've got a wordPeptuck 10/1/06 10:42 p.m.
                                                           dude, where's my dropship? *NM*Schedonnardus 10/1/06 10:44 p.m.
                                                                 Flood's in your base, killing your d00ds. *NM*Peptuck 10/1/06 11:38 p.m.
                                                                       Soylent Green is d00dz! *NM*Schedonnardus 10/1/06 11:54 p.m.
                                         Re: Damn, Sept.Gordon Freeman 10/1/06 9:23 p.m.
                             HmmHawaiian Pig 10/1/06 8:19 p.m.
                             *sheds a tear*Hikaru-119 10/1/06 8:40 p.m.
                             Re: Damn, Sept.Cody Miller 10/1/06 10:14 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.mercury 10/2/06 5:49 p.m.
                             Re: Damn, Sept.Narcogen 10/1/06 10:27 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.Shishka 10/2/06 12:16 a.m.
                                         I fully disagree...DanteThePoet 10/2/06 12:51 a.m.
                                         Re: Damn, Sept.Endbringer 10/2/06 1:03 a.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/2/06 10:28 a.m.
                                         Re: Damn, Sept.Narcogen 10/3/06 12:39 a.m.
                             Here here. As shishka said.. have faith! *NM*Littlebigman 10/1/06 11:08 p.m.
                             Re: Damn, Sept.Brodingo 10/2/06 4:45 p.m.
                                   Oy.MarineCorps117 10/2/06 5:19 p.m.
                                         Re: Oy.mercury 10/2/06 5:37 p.m.
                                               Re: Oy.MarineCorps117 10/2/06 6:24 p.m.
                                                     Re: Oy.Peptuck 10/2/06 7:26 p.m.
                                                           Re: Oy.MarineCorps117 10/2/06 7:30 p.m.
                                         Re: Oy.Mister Froggy 10/2/06 7:21 p.m.
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           Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filslayer117 10/2/06 10:42 a.m.
                 Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filBaz 10/2/06 10:53 a.m.
     Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filPeptuck 10/1/06 5:40 p.m.
     Its all about the BenjaminsBeastIce 10/1/06 6:07 p.m.
     Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filWortWortWort 10/1/06 6:22 p.m.
           Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filMarineCorps117 10/1/06 7:28 p.m.
                 Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filPeptuck 10/1/06 8:39 p.m.
     that's easyGhaleonEB 10/1/06 7:10 p.m.
     Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filDojorkan 10/1/06 8:32 p.m.
           Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filBARBARIC RAGE 10/1/06 9:05 p.m.
                 Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filjman571 10/3/06 8:09 p.m.
           Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filcatsinspace 10/1/06 9:52 p.m.
                 Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filShortRoundMcfly 10/1/06 10:37 p.m.
                       Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo fil[AMS] GreyThor 10/1/06 11:43 p.m.
                             Re: Yeah, manShortRoundMcfly 10/1/06 11:59 p.m.
                       Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filRox 10/2/06 3:04 a.m.
     Go outside sometime. *NM*Paul 10/2/06 1:23 a.m.
     Always half empty with some *NM*Grey Wolf 10/2/06 2:07 a.m.
     Dual-wielding shotguns = MarathonChryton 10/2/06 3:21 a.m.
     Here's a novel concept...yakaman 10/2/06 7:26 a.m.
           Re: Here's a novel concept...mnemesis 10/2/06 10:56 a.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...Baz 10/2/06 11:03 a.m.
           Re: Here's a novel concept...Marine Corps 117 10/2/06 1:25 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/2/06 1:47 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...Louis Wu 10/2/06 1:53 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...Document 10/2/06 1:54 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...mercury 10/2/06 2:05 p.m.
                       Agreed. *NM*Document 10/2/06 2:18 p.m.
                       Re: Here's a novel concept...MarineCorps117 10/2/06 2:58 p.m.
                             Re: Here's a novel concept...Sep7imus [subnova] 10/2/06 3:25 p.m.
                                   Re: Here's a novel concept...Peptuck 10/2/06 3:49 p.m.
                                         Re: Here's a novel concept...Sep7imus [subnova] 10/2/06 4:19 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...yakaman 10/2/06 4:19 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...[AMS] GreyThor 10/2/06 4:26 p.m.
     question for the Bungie guysAngel_251 10/2/06 3:04 p.m.
           Re: question for the Bungie guysSep7imus [subnova] 10/2/06 3:27 p.m.
                 Re: question for the Bungie guysAngel_251 10/2/06 4:04 p.m.
           Re: question for the Bungie guysPeptuck 10/2/06 3:52 p.m.
                 Re: question for the Bungie guysAngel_251 10/2/06 4:05 p.m.
           Re: question for the Bungie guysKP 10/2/06 4:51 p.m.
                 I guess you missed the memo... *NM*Usul 10/2/06 5:06 p.m.
                 Re: question for the Bungie guysRoss Mills [subnova] 10/2/06 5:40 p.m.
                 Re: question for the Bungie guysmercury 10/2/06 5:42 p.m.
                 Re: question for the Bungie guysAngel_251 10/2/06 5:51 p.m.
     Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filTwelve Large 10/3/06 12:33 a.m.



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