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Re: Damn, Sept.
Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net>Date: 10/1/06 10:27 p.m.

In Response To: Damn, Sept. (Shishka)

[snip]

: MarineCorps117's fears (and indeed, the fears of many of you) tend to be
: rooted mainly in assumptions and generalizations. For example: "All
: video game movies suck."

: Sure. But why? Actually look at what made a movie bad, and compare what went
: wrong to what's being done for the Halo movie.

: The irony here is that you can't, actually, because we're being quiet about
: the movie right now.

I pretty much agree with everything you said up top, but I'm inspired to ask, since you've chosen to phrase your answer this way:

So the Halo movie could suck, and we wouldn't know yet because you're not telling us?

Until something is said, it's impossible to say one way or another whether Halo is falling or will fall prey to the same problems that made previous video game film adaptations bad-- regardless of what you, I, or anyone else thinks those things are.

: Your issues about the Graphic Novel are really your own opinion, and you are
: welcome to them. I should point out that things settled upon as "hard
: fact" by the fanbase are usually determined as such by the fanbase
: with no prompting by Bungie. An obvious example of this are the number of
: people that have concluded that the Drinol and the Sharquoi are the same
: thing, simply because they haven't seen them mentioned anywhere other than
: in Halo 2 related discussion.

People really think that? Good grief.

[snip]

: As for the Elites in Infinite Succor, I'd think that someone so hung up on
: Halo canon would be aware that Elites have spoken in such a manner since
: the very beginning. They've always been religious zealots in character.
: Just because you only heard them say "wort wort wort" in Halo 1
: doesn't mean they weren't calling you a demon.

Just worth mentioning here: Unless one was a motivated fan who read fansites and read the manual cover to cover and frequented the forum and read the novels, it is entirely possible to play through all of Halo 1, and be paying attention, and not know this about the Covenant.

If you know that in advance, then a lot of things make more sense than otherwise. But I can see where some people who didn't get this information through other channels were blindsided when Halo 2 came around and all of a sudden we could understand Elites and we got a full and complete exposure to their religious culture.

I think that's just a natural consequence of the way the story unfolds, but I can see people being surprised by it.

Not that it justifies the rest of the original whine, of course.

Russia Is Building The Marathon


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Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filmMarineCorps117 10/1/06 4:42 p.m.
     Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filGrunt_Lover 10/1/06 5:18 p.m.
           Um.Peptuck 10/1/06 5:42 p.m.
                 Re: Um.Sep7imus [subnova] 10/1/06 5:43 p.m.
                       worst typo ever *NM*Document 10/1/06 6:37 p.m.
                             Worst? or best? *NM*Peptuck 10/1/06 6:54 p.m.
                                   Best Placed *NM*Unsc Trafalgar 10/1/06 6:59 p.m.
                             Re: worst typo everSep7imus [subnova] 10/1/06 7:05 p.m.
                       Damn, Sept.Shishka 10/1/06 7:12 p.m.
                             Re: Damn, Sept.Sep7imus [subnova] 10/1/06 7:37 p.m.
                             Re: Damn, Sept.MarineCorps117 10/1/06 7:37 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.raptor117 10/1/06 7:51 p.m.
                                         "racism in science fiction" *NM*Document 10/1/06 8:27 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/1/06 8:08 p.m.
                                         Re: Damn, Sept.Count Zero 10/1/06 8:10 p.m.
                                               Re: Damn, Sept.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/1/06 8:14 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.Sir Blunt 10/1/06 8:12 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.Peptuck 10/1/06 8:37 p.m.
                                         I've got a wordHikaru-119 10/1/06 8:51 p.m.
                                               Re: I've got a wordPeptuck 10/1/06 8:55 p.m.
                                               Re: I've got a wordSchedonnardus 10/1/06 8:55 p.m.
                                                     Re: I've got a wordSep7imus [subnova] 10/1/06 9:48 p.m.
                                                           Re: I've got a wordSchedonnardus 10/1/06 10:12 p.m.
                                                                 in that spirit: troops. *NM*Document 10/1/06 11:19 p.m.
                                                                       Re: in that spirit: troops.Andrew Nagy 10/1/06 11:21 p.m.
                                                                             Re: in that spirit: troops.ShortRoundMcfly 10/2/06 12:43 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: in that spirit: troops.Document 10/2/06 12:45 a.m.
                                               Re: I've got a wordHipboyScott 10/1/06 10:29 p.m.
                                                     the dude abides *NM*Schedonnardus 10/1/06 10:40 p.m.
                                                     Re: I've got a wordPeptuck 10/1/06 10:42 p.m.
                                                           dude, where's my dropship? *NM*Schedonnardus 10/1/06 10:44 p.m.
                                                                 Flood's in your base, killing your d00ds. *NM*Peptuck 10/1/06 11:38 p.m.
                                                                       Soylent Green is d00dz! *NM*Schedonnardus 10/1/06 11:54 p.m.
                                         Re: Damn, Sept.Gordon Freeman 10/1/06 9:23 p.m.
                             HmmHawaiian Pig 10/1/06 8:19 p.m.
                             *sheds a tear*Hikaru-119 10/1/06 8:40 p.m.
                             Re: Damn, Sept.Cody Miller 10/1/06 10:14 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.mercury 10/2/06 5:49 p.m.
                             Re: Damn, Sept.Narcogen 10/1/06 10:27 p.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.Shishka 10/2/06 12:16 a.m.
                                         I fully disagree...DanteThePoet 10/2/06 12:51 a.m.
                                         Re: Damn, Sept.Endbringer 10/2/06 1:03 a.m.
                                   Re: Damn, Sept.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/2/06 10:28 a.m.
                                         Re: Damn, Sept.Narcogen 10/3/06 12:39 a.m.
                             Here here. As shishka said.. have faith! *NM*Littlebigman 10/1/06 11:08 p.m.
                             Re: Damn, Sept.Brodingo 10/2/06 4:45 p.m.
                                   Oy.MarineCorps117 10/2/06 5:19 p.m.
                                         Re: Oy.mercury 10/2/06 5:37 p.m.
                                               Re: Oy.MarineCorps117 10/2/06 6:24 p.m.
                                                     Re: Oy.Peptuck 10/2/06 7:26 p.m.
                                                           Re: Oy.MarineCorps117 10/2/06 7:30 p.m.
                                         Re: Oy.Mister Froggy 10/2/06 7:21 p.m.
                                         Re: Oy.Peptuck 10/2/06 7:25 p.m.
           Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filslayer117 10/2/06 10:42 a.m.
                 Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filBaz 10/2/06 10:53 a.m.
     Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filPeptuck 10/1/06 5:40 p.m.
     Its all about the BenjaminsBeastIce 10/1/06 6:07 p.m.
     Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filWortWortWort 10/1/06 6:22 p.m.
           Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filMarineCorps117 10/1/06 7:28 p.m.
                 Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filPeptuck 10/1/06 8:39 p.m.
     that's easyGhaleonEB 10/1/06 7:10 p.m.
     Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filDojorkan 10/1/06 8:32 p.m.
           Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filBARBARIC RAGE 10/1/06 9:05 p.m.
                 Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filjman571 10/3/06 8:09 p.m.
           Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filcatsinspace 10/1/06 9:52 p.m.
                 Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filShortRoundMcfly 10/1/06 10:37 p.m.
                       Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo fil[AMS] GreyThor 10/1/06 11:43 p.m.
                             Re: Yeah, manShortRoundMcfly 10/1/06 11:59 p.m.
                       Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filRox 10/2/06 3:04 a.m.
     Go outside sometime. *NM*Paul 10/2/06 1:23 a.m.
     Always half empty with some *NM*Grey Wolf 10/2/06 2:07 a.m.
     Dual-wielding shotguns = MarathonChryton 10/2/06 3:21 a.m.
     Here's a novel concept...yakaman 10/2/06 7:26 a.m.
           Re: Here's a novel concept...mnemesis 10/2/06 10:56 a.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...Baz 10/2/06 11:03 a.m.
           Re: Here's a novel concept...Marine Corps 117 10/2/06 1:25 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/2/06 1:47 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...Louis Wu 10/2/06 1:53 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...Document 10/2/06 1:54 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...mercury 10/2/06 2:05 p.m.
                       Agreed. *NM*Document 10/2/06 2:18 p.m.
                       Re: Here's a novel concept...MarineCorps117 10/2/06 2:58 p.m.
                             Re: Here's a novel concept...Sep7imus [subnova] 10/2/06 3:25 p.m.
                                   Re: Here's a novel concept...Peptuck 10/2/06 3:49 p.m.
                                         Re: Here's a novel concept...Sep7imus [subnova] 10/2/06 4:19 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...yakaman 10/2/06 4:19 p.m.
                 Re: Here's a novel concept...[AMS] GreyThor 10/2/06 4:26 p.m.
     question for the Bungie guysAngel_251 10/2/06 3:04 p.m.
           Re: question for the Bungie guysSep7imus [subnova] 10/2/06 3:27 p.m.
                 Re: question for the Bungie guysAngel_251 10/2/06 4:04 p.m.
           Re: question for the Bungie guysPeptuck 10/2/06 3:52 p.m.
                 Re: question for the Bungie guysAngel_251 10/2/06 4:05 p.m.
           Re: question for the Bungie guysKP 10/2/06 4:51 p.m.
                 I guess you missed the memo... *NM*Usul 10/2/06 5:06 p.m.
                 Re: question for the Bungie guysRoss Mills [subnova] 10/2/06 5:40 p.m.
                 Re: question for the Bungie guysmercury 10/2/06 5:42 p.m.
                 Re: question for the Bungie guysAngel_251 10/2/06 5:51 p.m.
     Re: Why I've lost faith in Bungie and the Halo filTwelve Large 10/3/06 12:33 a.m.



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