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Re: Gross vs. Profit
Posted By: Miguel Chavez <bs@bungie.org>Date: 5/22/02 1:22 a.m.

In Response To: Gross vs. Profit (Narcogen)

In no way am I tackling all your claims, but I do want to interject on one issue... I too realize that MS's profits aren't linearly tied to the expense of the hardware itself, that there's the money invested in the developers, the marketing, etc... However, I think this is not quite as un-accounted for as you may think. Personally I believe all such expenditures occupy a different section of the accounting books of *any* legitimate (dicey choice of words when discussing MS, no?) software business like MS. In other words, the salaries of those within Bungie, the costs of office supplies, the cost of property/rent to house these developers, fuel for the shuttle buses, equipment for Marty, etc., these are not line items that make an appreciable dent on the Xbox hardware division's P&L sheet.

Let me be clear, I'm not suggesting that those kinds of things aren't important in some regard, I just think *all* the big players conveniently don't include them in their charts on tracking profits accrued from console sales... so if the other players aren't counting it, why force MS to?


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Death of the Xbox?FunkDaddy 5/20/02 4:34 p.m.
     Re: Death of the Xbox?PCDestroyer 5/20/02 4:46 p.m.
           Re: Death of the Xbox?Surrepticius 5/20/02 4:58 p.m.
                 Death of the Xbox??...My @$$Mutti 5/20/02 6:48 p.m.
                       Re: Death of the Xbox??...My @$$Mr. Bobo 5/20/02 8:07 p.m.
     Re: Death of the Xbox?ferrex 5/20/02 6:03 p.m.
           Hurrah!Kellen Squire 5/20/02 11:00 p.m.
           Re: Death of the Xbox?Kanen Faud'r 5/21/02 3:12 a.m.
                 Re: Death of the Xbox?ferrex 5/21/02 1:24 p.m.
                       Re: Death of the Xbox?Kanen Faud'r 5/21/02 2:12 p.m.
                             What about the profits from...Ulf 5/21/02 3:08 p.m.
                       Gross vs. ProfitNarcogen 5/21/02 10:39 p.m.
                             Re: Hard DriveNthDegree256 5/21/02 11:12 p.m.
                                   Re: Hard DriveNthDegree256 5/21/02 11:13 p.m.
                                   hard drive vs. memory cardNarcogen 5/22/02 1:38 a.m.
                                         Re: hard drive vs. memory cardMark Levin 5/22/02 1:46 a.m.
                                               nice feature, just not essentialNarcogen 5/22/02 4:39 a.m.
                                         Re: hard drive vs. memory cardMiguel Chavez 5/22/02 1:51 a.m.
                                               Re: hard drive vs. memory cardpoena.dare #CP# 5/22/02 2:23 a.m.
                                                     Re: hard drive vs. memory cardMark Levin 5/22/02 3:21 a.m.
                                                           DVD Consortium ChargesNarcogen 5/22/02 4:48 a.m.
                                                                 Re: DVD Consortium ChargesLouis Wu 5/22/02 8:30 a.m.
                                                                       Re: DVD Consortium ChargesNarcogen 5/23/02 1:33 a.m.
                                                                             Re: DVD Consortium ChargesMark Levin 5/23/02 2:15 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: DVD Consortium ChargesNarcogen 5/23/02 3:05 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: DVD Consortium ChargesMark Levin 5/23/02 3:09 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: DVD Consortium ChargesNarcogen 5/24/02 4:14 a.m.
                                                     xbox as music playerNarcogen 5/22/02 4:45 a.m.
                                               The Console CaveNarcogen 5/22/02 4:42 a.m.
                                         Re: hard drive vs. memory cardSpudBoy 5/22/02 1:52 a.m.
                                               PGR ghosts and Myth FilmzNarcogen 5/22/02 5:04 a.m.
                             Re: Gross vs. Profitvector40 5/21/02 11:28 p.m.
                                   Grosse Profit PointeNarcogen 5/22/02 1:44 a.m.
                             Re: Gross vs. ProfitMiguel Chavez 5/22/02 1:22 a.m.
                                   Profit vs. RevenueNarcogen 5/22/02 1:52 a.m.
           Doomsayers vs MS Kool-AidNarcogen 5/21/02 9:38 p.m.
                 Re: Doomsayers vs MS Kool-AidKellen Squire 5/21/02 10:57 p.m.
                       Kool Aid vs FUDNarcogen 5/22/02 4:18 a.m.
                             *blink*Kellen Squire 5/22/02 6:29 p.m.
                                   Well, uh banshee "challenge" *NM*Black_Jackal 5/22/02 6:47 p.m.
                                         WHAT THE !@#$!Black_Jackal 5/22/02 6:51 p.m.
                                               Re: WHAT THE !@#$!Narcogen 5/23/02 2:40 a.m.
                                   SUPERFUD! :)Narcogen 5/23/02 2:38 a.m.
                                         Dratness!Kellen Squire 5/23/02 8:30 a.m.
                                         Re: SUPERFUD! :)Kellen Squire 5/23/02 9:43 a.m.
                                               Good Grief, this is great. *NM*vector40 5/23/02 9:25 p.m.
                                               Re: SUPERFUD! :)Narcogen 5/24/02 4:09 a.m.
                                         Re: SUPERFUD IS FINALLY REPLIED TOKellen Squire 5/24/02 12:23 a.m.
                                               Jesus.Zapf Dingbats 5/24/02 12:58 a.m.
                                                     Re: Jesus.Kellen Squire 5/24/02 8:24 a.m.
                 Re: Doomsayers vs MS Kool-AidMiguel Chavez 5/22/02 1:33 a.m.
                       Re: Doomsayers vs MS Kool-AidNarcogen 5/22/02 4:54 a.m.
     Re: Death of the Xbox?Cunbelin The Longwinded 5/23/02 5:40 a.m.



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