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Re: I think I disagree with you guys.
Posted By: General Vagueness <General.Vagueness@gmail.com>Date: 6/6/12 6:13 p.m.

In Response To: Re: I think I disagree with you guys. (SEspider)


Avateur:
: Generally only used to people who I have previously played with and have
: exchanged fun words with over Live, or know fairly well and like and
: exchange such things with on Live. Granted, that obviously doesn't
: translate over here, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find me telling
: someone I've never played with or don't even know to get their game/BR up.
: And roland is a dangerous sonofagun on Reach (considering how infrequently
: he appears to ever play it), and I do have fun with my trash talk when we
: do play.

You've played with me a bunch of times and I heard you say that maybe once. I don't remember those other phrases either.

Avateur:
: Hopefully my explanation helps a bit. I especially enjoy telling Bones to get
: his BR up. He has his own counters, but I mostly hear them over Live, not
: so much in reply at HBO. Some people post random pics and gifs, I tell
: certain people to get their BRs up or clamp down that helmet or strap on
: those Nikes. Maybe I should try posting ridiculous pics from now on. :P

So are these even memes or they just in-jokes? (in before they're the same thing, it's a difference of scale)

Schooly D:
: There are some things, I believe, that are broken on principle. Ordinance
: drops are one of them. It's not like Nexy strung together some kills with
: a too-strong Scattershot and I/we have declared the game broken and
: unsalvageable. It would be very difficult to balance Ordinance Drops
: without either (a) nerfing the very abilities/weapons it drops (e.g.
: making the overshield less powerful, which would have ramifications
: elsewhere in the sandbox) or (b) only having Ordinance Drops deploy normal
: weapons that might be worth picking up in certain situations (e.g.
: Needler, DMR). Starting things off with ODs dropping overshields, I think,
: says a lot about what their intention for the mechanic is. It's supposed
: to be a snowball-effect kind of thing. Otherwise, what's the point?

The point could be to experiment, to test, to play with things, see how it all works out, see how far they can push things maybe. Maybe some higher-up at MS is leaning that way and they set up the E3 demos like that to show them it would suck.

: There are a couple of problems with taking someone like Walshy's opinions
: without a grain of salt in this case.

: 1. If someone invites you to dinner at their house, you don't complain about
: the food.

Aside from my policy of complete honesty, I think if someone invited you to dinner to try some food and said they were going to mass-produce it and sell it all over the world in about 5 months, you'd tell them if something was wrong with it (unless you wanted them to fail).

: 343i invited these people to have privileged access to Halo 4. I can't imagine
: a situation where they would actually come away saying "the game sucks," or
: even "the game is meh."

It seems to me like someone always does, though.

: 2. In the case of people like Nexy (K-D = 26-2), they're basically playing
: games where they're walking over norbs. It's easy to like a game when
: you're dominating because every part of the game seems to work in your
: favor. If you were to send him to a multi-team LAN house for a few weeks,
: playing the game against equally-skilled peers, he might have more
: critical things to say about the gameplay when he's taking as much as he's
: giving.

This is a good point. I don't have anything to add, so... it's just a good point.

: Based on what I've read, that might be the case at NeoGAF. But I don't think
: that's the case here. 90% of posters here seem to be positive, mostly for
: the campaign.

I'm still pushing through the mass of threads, but it looks that way so far.

: Ehhh. I know you said earlier that your post isn't meant to be a "no
: dissenting opinions allowed" post, but that is sort of what it feels
: like. Just a gentler version though: "if you don't like what you've
: seen or read, be careful with what negative opinions you post."

Yeah, Wu can overstate the whole "you kids play nice back there" thing sometimes; I think he has yet to cross any meaningful line. Also he might just mean this thread, which is the largest active thread right now.

SEspider:
: That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about if your are Team Killed
: Only , then the weapon decintergrates. If the other team kills ya or you
: some how suicides, then the weapon stays in game. If a betrayer can in no
: way steal your weapon after he kills ya, then he'll think twice about do
: it. This will also help force players to be more careful with their
: grenades and power weapons.

You also proposed making it so no one else could pick it up, and a 30-second waiting period.


: - Remove the grenade indicator. It's NOT Needed!

I like the idea of the nearby grenade indicator. I'm not sure yet if that will be true in practice, but it's worth a try.

: - Remove all of the Nav Markers. It's Halo. One marker is enough. Best yet,
: do what Bungie did in ODST. Place a compass at the top and keep the
: location Nav indicators up there. When we can see the objective, do a Halo
: Reach highlight. It worked perfectly in ODST and Reach, why change it?

I agree with you here.

: Remove the Speed & Damage Boost crap. They are not needed. We haven't
: needed them for 10+ years and we don't need them now.

: - Seriously? You're going to [snip]

Do you have anything to point to to back you up on these points?

You cannot fall off the floor.


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Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by NexyCyReN 6/5/12 7:50 p.m.
     Re: Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by Nexybluerunner 6/5/12 8:21 p.m.
           How to fix Betrayals in MPSEspider 6/6/12 12:42 a.m.
                 Re: How to fix Betrayals in MPLouis Wu 6/6/12 1:17 a.m.
                       Re: How to fix Betrayals in MPSEspider 6/6/12 2:09 a.m.
                             I actually kind of like this idea!The Lionheart 6/8/12 8:08 p.m.
                                   Re: I actually kind of like this idea!SEspider 6/9/12 4:41 a.m.
           Re: Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by NexyRC Master 6/6/12 1:50 a.m.
                 Re: Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by Nexybluerunner 6/6/12 7:32 a.m.
     Re: Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by NexySchooly D 6/5/12 8:35 p.m.
           I think you're being way too niceAvateur 6/5/12 8:42 p.m.
                 There are probably going to be "Classic" playlistsTrain Dodger 6/5/12 9:00 p.m.
                       Re: There are probably going to be "Classic" playlAvateur 6/5/12 9:02 p.m.
                 Re: I think you're being way too niceSchooly D 6/5/12 9:01 p.m.
           Re: Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by NexyPhoenix_9286 6/5/12 8:44 p.m.
                 I think I disagree with you guys.Vandle Valsher 6/5/12 9:08 p.m.
                       You're not alone. *NM*rolandk73 6/5/12 9:16 p.m.
                             Agreed.GrimBrother One 6/5/12 10:25 p.m.
                                   I feel the exact same way *NM*kidtsunami 6/6/12 12:05 a.m.
                                   Gr1m, stop working so much.The Lionheart 6/8/12 8:22 p.m.
                       Re: I think I disagree with you guys.Phoenix_9286 6/5/12 10:33 p.m.
                             Re: I think I disagree with you guys.SEspider 6/6/12 2:57 a.m.
                                   Re: I think I disagree with you guys.Metalingus627 6/6/12 5:25 p.m.
                                         Re: I think I disagree with you guys.General Vagueness 6/6/12 9:15 p.m.
                                               Re: I think I disagree with you guys.uberfoop 6/6/12 10:26 p.m.
                                                     Re: I think I disagree with you guys.General Vagueness 6/7/12 7:31 p.m.
                                                           Re: I think I disagree with you guys.uberfoop 6/7/12 8:05 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I think I disagree with you guys.General Vagueness 6/8/12 4:52 p.m.
                                                                       Re: I think I disagree with you guys.uberfoop 6/8/12 8:20 p.m.
                                                                             Re: I think I disagree with you guys.General Vagueness 6/9/12 12:03 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: I think I disagree with you guys.uberfoop 6/9/12 1:30 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: I think I disagree with you guys.General Vagueness 6/9/12 2:27 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: I think I disagree with you guys.uberfoop 6/10/12 1:30 a.m.
                                   Re: I think I disagree with you guys.General Vagueness 6/6/12 6:13 p.m.
           Re: What they haven't solved...Apirishin 6/5/12 8:55 p.m.
           UhgJoe Duplessie (SNIPE 316) 6/5/12 11:43 p.m.
           Re: Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by NexyGeneral Vagueness 6/6/12 6:45 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by Nexystabbim 6/7/12 11:22 p.m.
     ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedrolandk73 6/5/12 9:09 p.m.
           Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedAvateur 6/5/12 9:20 p.m.
                 I don't even agree with rolandkidtsunami 6/5/12 9:23 p.m.
                       Re: I don't even agree with rolandAvateur 6/5/12 9:26 p.m.
                             Re: I don't even agree with rolandVandle Valsher 6/5/12 9:31 p.m.
                                   Re: I don't even agree with rolandAvateur 6/5/12 9:35 p.m.
                                         What?Vandle Valsher 6/5/12 9:36 p.m.
                             Re: I don't even agree with rolanduberfoop 6/5/12 9:34 p.m.
                                   Re: I don't even agree with rolandAvateur 6/5/12 9:39 p.m.
                                         Re: I don't even agree with rolanduberfoop 6/5/12 11:03 p.m.
                                               Re: I don't even agree with rolandAvateur 6/5/12 11:27 p.m.
                 Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedrolandk73 6/5/12 9:27 p.m.
                       Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedAvateur 6/5/12 9:34 p.m.
                             Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedLouis Wu 6/5/12 11:09 p.m.
                                   Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedAvateur 6/5/12 11:24 p.m.
                                         Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedLouis Wu 6/5/12 11:30 p.m.
                                               Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedNarcogen 6/6/12 3:54 a.m.
                                                     Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedApollo 6/6/12 4:12 a.m.
           Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedSIX min WHISTLE 6/5/12 9:25 p.m.
           ITT: People making weird generalizations.uberfoop 6/5/12 9:30 p.m.
           Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedbluerunner 6/5/12 9:33 p.m.
                 Because I'm a Sonic fan, and I have seen "bad"rolandk73 6/5/12 9:48 p.m.
                       Re: Because I'm a Sonic fan, and I have seen "bad"SIX min WHISTLE 6/5/12 10:12 p.m.
                             Re: Because I'm a Sonic fan, and I have seen "bad"Hawki 6/5/12 11:45 p.m.
                             Re: Because I'm a Sonic fan, and I have seen "bad"rolandk73 6/6/12 1:11 p.m.
                       Re: Because I'm a Sonic fan, and I have seen "bad"stabbim 6/6/12 2:10 p.m.
     A general pleaLouis Wu 6/5/12 11:05 p.m.
           Well said *NM*Metalingus627 6/5/12 11:26 p.m.
           here here! *NM*kidtsunami 6/6/12 12:06 a.m.
           This should be S.O.P. for all denizens, IMO. *NM*The Lionheart 6/6/12 12:18 a.m.
           NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITSchooly D 6/6/12 1:42 a.m.
                 Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITLouis Wu 6/6/12 1:54 a.m.
                       Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITuberfoop 6/6/12 2:04 a.m.
                       Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITSchooly D 6/6/12 2:20 a.m.
                             Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITApollo 6/6/12 3:21 a.m.
                                   Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITSEspider 6/6/12 3:32 a.m.
                             rofl *NM*SEspider 6/6/12 3:28 a.m.
                       Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITNarcogen 6/6/12 3:57 a.m.
                             :thumbsup: *NM*SEspider 6/6/12 4:41 a.m.
                                   Pfththth.Blackstar 6/7/12 9:37 p.m.



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