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Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleased
Posted By: Avateur <avateur@gmail.com>Date: 6/5/12 9:34 p.m.

In Response To: Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleased (rolandk73)


: Since when has Reach been a failure in numbers? And I bring up Halo because I
: was making a general statement about pessimists in the fandom, but now
: that you mention it, you DO remember the complaints about the pistol, no?

Reach's overall sales have apparently been nothing compared to H3's (according to Microsoft, repeated by Wu, and repeated by others, but I don't want to put in the work currently to hunt down a bibliography to cite this). That and I think Reach's matchmaking population is fairly self explanatory and has been for quite a while when compared to H3.

And yes, I do remember the complaints about the pistol, and I also remember how broken H2 was (glitches, cheating, modding, dooming). I also remember how H3 sucks at host and latency. And Reach has its own many flaws. Yet somehow everything I'm watching with H4 just looks like one huge attempt to degrade skill levels, tactical gameplay, and commonsense (because by wanting the flow of the game to be as easy as possible for the player and literally spelling it out for people, they're ruining the actual natural flow fo the game as it would progress without the handholding). And this is just a tiny fraction of my issues with what I've seen. :P

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Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by NexyCyReN 6/5/12 7:50 p.m.
     Re: Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by Nexybluerunner 6/5/12 8:21 p.m.
           How to fix Betrayals in MPSEspider 6/6/12 12:42 a.m.
                 Re: How to fix Betrayals in MPLouis Wu 6/6/12 1:17 a.m.
                       Re: How to fix Betrayals in MPSEspider 6/6/12 2:09 a.m.
                             I actually kind of like this idea!The Lionheart 6/8/12 8:08 p.m.
                                   Re: I actually kind of like this idea!SEspider 6/9/12 4:41 a.m.
           Re: Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by NexyRC Master 6/6/12 1:50 a.m.
                 Re: Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by Nexybluerunner 6/6/12 7:32 a.m.
     Re: Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by NexySchooly D 6/5/12 8:35 p.m.
           I think you're being way too niceAvateur 6/5/12 8:42 p.m.
                 There are probably going to be "Classic" playlistsTrain Dodger 6/5/12 9:00 p.m.
                       Re: There are probably going to be "Classic" playlAvateur 6/5/12 9:02 p.m.
                 Re: I think you're being way too niceSchooly D 6/5/12 9:01 p.m.
           Re: Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by NexyPhoenix_9286 6/5/12 8:44 p.m.
                 I think I disagree with you guys.Vandle Valsher 6/5/12 9:08 p.m.
                       You're not alone. *NM*rolandk73 6/5/12 9:16 p.m.
                             Agreed.GrimBrother One 6/5/12 10:25 p.m.
                                   I feel the exact same way *NM*kidtsunami 6/6/12 12:05 a.m.
                                   Gr1m, stop working so much.The Lionheart 6/8/12 8:22 p.m.
                       Re: I think I disagree with you guys.Phoenix_9286 6/5/12 10:33 p.m.
                             Re: I think I disagree with you guys.SEspider 6/6/12 2:57 a.m.
                                   Re: I think I disagree with you guys.Metalingus627 6/6/12 5:25 p.m.
                                         Re: I think I disagree with you guys.General Vagueness 6/6/12 9:15 p.m.
                                               Re: I think I disagree with you guys.uberfoop 6/6/12 10:26 p.m.
                                                     Re: I think I disagree with you guys.General Vagueness 6/7/12 7:31 p.m.
                                                           Re: I think I disagree with you guys.uberfoop 6/7/12 8:05 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I think I disagree with you guys.General Vagueness 6/8/12 4:52 p.m.
                                                                       Re: I think I disagree with you guys.uberfoop 6/8/12 8:20 p.m.
                                                                             Re: I think I disagree with you guys.General Vagueness 6/9/12 12:03 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: I think I disagree with you guys.uberfoop 6/9/12 1:30 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: I think I disagree with you guys.General Vagueness 6/9/12 2:27 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: I think I disagree with you guys.uberfoop 6/10/12 1:30 a.m.
                                   Re: I think I disagree with you guys.General Vagueness 6/6/12 6:13 p.m.
           Re: What they haven't solved...Apirishin 6/5/12 8:55 p.m.
           UhgJoe Duplessie (SNIPE 316) 6/5/12 11:43 p.m.
           Re: Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by NexyGeneral Vagueness 6/6/12 6:45 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by Nexystabbim 6/7/12 11:22 p.m.
     ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedrolandk73 6/5/12 9:09 p.m.
           Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedAvateur 6/5/12 9:20 p.m.
                 I don't even agree with rolandkidtsunami 6/5/12 9:23 p.m.
                       Re: I don't even agree with rolandAvateur 6/5/12 9:26 p.m.
                             Re: I don't even agree with rolandVandle Valsher 6/5/12 9:31 p.m.
                                   Re: I don't even agree with rolandAvateur 6/5/12 9:35 p.m.
                                         What?Vandle Valsher 6/5/12 9:36 p.m.
                             Re: I don't even agree with rolanduberfoop 6/5/12 9:34 p.m.
                                   Re: I don't even agree with rolandAvateur 6/5/12 9:39 p.m.
                                         Re: I don't even agree with rolanduberfoop 6/5/12 11:03 p.m.
                                               Re: I don't even agree with rolandAvateur 6/5/12 11:27 p.m.
                 Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedrolandk73 6/5/12 9:27 p.m.
                       Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedAvateur 6/5/12 9:34 p.m.
                             Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedLouis Wu 6/5/12 11:09 p.m.
                                   Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedAvateur 6/5/12 11:24 p.m.
                                         Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedLouis Wu 6/5/12 11:30 p.m.
                                               Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedNarcogen 6/6/12 3:54 a.m.
                                                     Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedApollo 6/6/12 4:12 a.m.
           Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedSIX min WHISTLE 6/5/12 9:25 p.m.
           ITT: People making weird generalizations.uberfoop 6/5/12 9:30 p.m.
           Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedbluerunner 6/5/12 9:33 p.m.
                 Because I'm a Sonic fan, and I have seen "bad"rolandk73 6/5/12 9:48 p.m.
                       Re: Because I'm a Sonic fan, and I have seen "bad"SIX min WHISTLE 6/5/12 10:12 p.m.
                             Re: Because I'm a Sonic fan, and I have seen "bad"Hawki 6/5/12 11:45 p.m.
                             Re: Because I'm a Sonic fan, and I have seen "bad"rolandk73 6/6/12 1:11 p.m.
                       Re: Because I'm a Sonic fan, and I have seen "bad"stabbim 6/6/12 2:10 p.m.
     A general pleaLouis Wu 6/5/12 11:05 p.m.
           Well said *NM*Metalingus627 6/5/12 11:26 p.m.
           here here! *NM*kidtsunami 6/6/12 12:06 a.m.
           This should be S.O.P. for all denizens, IMO. *NM*The Lionheart 6/6/12 12:18 a.m.
           NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITSchooly D 6/6/12 1:42 a.m.
                 Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITLouis Wu 6/6/12 1:54 a.m.
                       Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITuberfoop 6/6/12 2:04 a.m.
                       Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITSchooly D 6/6/12 2:20 a.m.
                             Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITApollo 6/6/12 3:21 a.m.
                                   Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITSEspider 6/6/12 3:32 a.m.
                             rofl *NM*SEspider 6/6/12 3:28 a.m.
                       Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITNarcogen 6/6/12 3:57 a.m.
                             :thumbsup: *NM*SEspider 6/6/12 4:41 a.m.
                                   Pfththth.Blackstar 6/7/12 9:37 p.m.



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