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Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleased
Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net>Date: 6/6/12 3:54 a.m.

In Response To: Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleased (Louis Wu)


: Okay, now I see where you were coming from. But attach rate and overall sales
: are WILDLY different measures - I was really surprised to see you
: attribute the comment you did to me.

: The first Halo game had an attach rate of nearly 50% - Reach had an attach
: rate of less than 20%. That's a huge disparity. The first Halo game had
: overall sales of less than 7 million units - Reach had overall sales of
: over 9 million. That's not only an equivalent disparity, the weight goes
: in the opposite direction!

Attach rate is a much better metric, though.

Comparing H1 and Reach this way essentially demonstrates that the Xbox-owning market has grown, but that the percentage of that market that purchases Halo has gone down.

Certainly that's to be expected, and 50% is a phenomenally high attach rate, and probably indicative of a shallow ecosystem-- not enough games to buy.

On the other hand, you could look at it this way: If everyone who bought Halo 1 also bought Reach, it means that in the years between those two releases, the Xbox market increased in size from about 14M consoles to over 40M consoles, but of those 26M+ new users, only 2M bought Reach. That would not be a good indicator.

Obviously this is not a complete view, since there's bound to be some overlap-- people who bought Reach but hadn't owned the first game, or people who didn't follow the franchise, or didn't upgrade to an Xbox 360. Still, it is an indication that it's not like half the people buying a console are buying it for a single game anymore. I wonder what COD's attach rates are like on the console.

Rampancy


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     Re: Halo 4 HANDS-ON Impressions by NexySchooly D 6/5/12 8:35 p.m.
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     ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedrolandk73 6/5/12 9:09 p.m.
           Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedAvateur 6/5/12 9:20 p.m.
                 I don't even agree with rolandkidtsunami 6/5/12 9:23 p.m.
                       Re: I don't even agree with rolandAvateur 6/5/12 9:26 p.m.
                             Re: I don't even agree with rolandVandle Valsher 6/5/12 9:31 p.m.
                                   Re: I don't even agree with rolandAvateur 6/5/12 9:35 p.m.
                                         What?Vandle Valsher 6/5/12 9:36 p.m.
                             Re: I don't even agree with rolanduberfoop 6/5/12 9:34 p.m.
                                   Re: I don't even agree with rolandAvateur 6/5/12 9:39 p.m.
                                         Re: I don't even agree with rolanduberfoop 6/5/12 11:03 p.m.
                                               Re: I don't even agree with rolandAvateur 6/5/12 11:27 p.m.
                 Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedrolandk73 6/5/12 9:27 p.m.
                       Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedAvateur 6/5/12 9:34 p.m.
                             Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedLouis Wu 6/5/12 11:09 p.m.
                                   Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedAvateur 6/5/12 11:24 p.m.
                                         Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedLouis Wu 6/5/12 11:30 p.m.
                                               Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedNarcogen 6/6/12 3:54 a.m.
                                                     Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedApollo 6/6/12 4:12 a.m.
           Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedSIX min WHISTLE 6/5/12 9:25 p.m.
           ITT: People making weird generalizations.uberfoop 6/5/12 9:30 p.m.
           Re: ITT: The fans cannot be pleasedbluerunner 6/5/12 9:33 p.m.
                 Because I'm a Sonic fan, and I have seen "bad"rolandk73 6/5/12 9:48 p.m.
                       Re: Because I'm a Sonic fan, and I have seen "bad"SIX min WHISTLE 6/5/12 10:12 p.m.
                             Re: Because I'm a Sonic fan, and I have seen "bad"Hawki 6/5/12 11:45 p.m.
                             Re: Because I'm a Sonic fan, and I have seen "bad"rolandk73 6/6/12 1:11 p.m.
                       Re: Because I'm a Sonic fan, and I have seen "bad"stabbim 6/6/12 2:10 p.m.
     A general pleaLouis Wu 6/5/12 11:05 p.m.
           Well said *NM*Metalingus627 6/5/12 11:26 p.m.
           here here! *NM*kidtsunami 6/6/12 12:06 a.m.
           This should be S.O.P. for all denizens, IMO. *NM*The Lionheart 6/6/12 12:18 a.m.
           NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITSchooly D 6/6/12 1:42 a.m.
                 Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITLouis Wu 6/6/12 1:54 a.m.
                       Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITuberfoop 6/6/12 2:04 a.m.
                       Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITSchooly D 6/6/12 2:20 a.m.
                             Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITApollo 6/6/12 3:21 a.m.
                                   Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITSEspider 6/6/12 3:32 a.m.
                             rofl *NM*SEspider 6/6/12 3:28 a.m.
                       Re: NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE ITNarcogen 6/6/12 3:57 a.m.
                             :thumbsup: *NM*SEspider 6/6/12 4:41 a.m.
                                   Pfththth.Blackstar 6/7/12 9:37 p.m.



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