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Re: Flood and evolution
Posted By: Stephen L. (SoundEffect) <soundeffect@hotmail.com>Date: 2/10/12 5:19 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Flood and evolution (ZackDark)


: Your thread got me thinking.

: They say Flood starves to death if no sentient is present to become food.
: Yet, the Flood obviously survived a long time at Delta Halo without sentient
: food.

: What if your thesis applies directly to this supposed paradox?

: What if the Flood really can't evolve on it's DNA alone? What if it only
: gather means to evolve through intelligence gain, like consuming, say
: sentients ?

: We can clearly see Flood consuming non-sentient "animals" in
: Infinite Succor , so we know (and therefor, the Forerrunners must have
: known [and therefor 343 must have known]) it can , at least in the
: short-term, survive through other means.

: So maybe, yeah, natural selection does, in the long-term, wipe out the Flood,
: through lack of self-mutation, but it doesn't if the Flood gains
: intelligence through a host and mutates itself through the knowledge
: gained.

: No?

Consider this. Starving the Flood is not depriving them of nourishment, but intelligence.

Their overriding drive is to take over sentient beings to add to their collective. They have a drive to go from Feral to Coordinated. Once intelligent, the Flood have a goal and agenda; purpose. The spores and infection forms can survive (they eat, expel waste, etc) but there's no intelligence beyond their genetics to find sources of calcium and intelligent beings. They need more and more intelligence to add to the collective knowledge of the whole.

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Flood and evolutionscarab 2/7/12 8:47 p.m.
     Great post!ZackDark 2/7/12 9:01 p.m.
           Re: Great post!scarab 2/7/12 9:37 p.m.
                 Re: Great post!uberfoop 2/7/12 10:24 p.m.
     Re: Flood and evolutionkanbo 2/7/12 9:35 p.m.
           Its independent of any fictionscarab 2/7/12 9:42 p.m.
                 Re: Its independent of any fictionkanbo 2/7/12 10:50 p.m.
                       No real spoilersscarab 2/8/12 1:34 a.m.
                             Re: No real spoilers? eh...General Vagueness 2/9/12 11:42 a.m.
     Re: Flood and evolutionFlynn J Taggart 2/7/12 9:40 p.m.
           Re: Flood and evolutionscarab 2/7/12 9:59 p.m.
                 Night guysscarab 2/7/12 10:00 p.m.
                 Regarding IsolationJDQuackers 2/8/12 8:09 a.m.
                 Re: Flood and evolutionStephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/8/12 8:32 a.m.
                 Re: Flood and evolutionyakaman 2/8/12 1:03 p.m.
     This thread is gold. *NM*Postmortem 2/8/12 9:09 a.m.
     Genetic space is not a constraint...Arithmomaniac 2/8/12 1:43 p.m.
           Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...scarab 2/10/12 2:21 a.m.
                 Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...JDQuackers 2/10/12 7:13 a.m.
                       Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...scarab 2/10/12 8:06 a.m.
                             Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...davidfuchs 2/10/12 8:59 a.m.
                                   Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...scarab 2/10/12 10:10 a.m.
                 Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...General Vagueness 2/10/12 10:10 p.m.
                 Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...Quirel 2/11/12 2:58 a.m.
                       Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...General Vagueness 2/11/12 11:02 a.m.
                             Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...Quirel 2/11/12 12:35 p.m.
                                   Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/11/12 12:38 p.m.
                                         Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...General Vagueness 2/11/12 1:07 p.m.
                                               Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/11/12 1:55 p.m.
                                                     Well...ZackDark 2/11/12 2:03 p.m.
                                                           Re: Well...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/11/12 2:11 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Well...ZackDark 2/11/12 2:13 p.m.
                                                     Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...General Vagueness 2/11/12 4:23 p.m.
                                                           Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/11/12 4:48 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...General Vagueness 2/11/12 5:24 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/11/12 8:09 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...General Vagueness 2/11/12 10:20 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/12/12 9:25 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...General Vagueness 2/12/12 4:58 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Genetic space is not a constraint...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/12/12 5:19 p.m.
     If there's no "cure" to the Flood...davidfuchs 2/8/12 3:10 p.m.
           Re: If there's no "cure" to the Flood...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/8/12 3:42 p.m.
                 Re: If there's no "cure" to the Flood...ZackDark 2/8/12 4:36 p.m.
                       Re: If there's no "cure" to the Flood...Hoovaloov 2/8/12 4:42 p.m.
                             Re: If there's no "cure" to the Flood...ZackDark 2/8/12 4:57 p.m.
                                   Re: If there's no "cure" to the Flood...davidfuchs 2/8/12 5:23 p.m.
                                   Re: If there's no "cure" to the Flood...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/8/12 6:07 p.m.
                                         Re: If there's no "cure" to the Flood...Bry 2/8/12 8:09 p.m.
                                               Re: If there's no "cure" to the Flood...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/8/12 8:30 p.m.
                                                     Re: If there's no "cure" to the Flood...Bry 2/8/12 10:03 p.m.
                                                           Re: If there's no "cure" to the Flood...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/9/12 5:38 a.m.
                                                     Re: If there's no "cure" to the Flood...Quirel 2/8/12 10:46 p.m.
                                                           Re: If there's no "cure" to the Flood...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/9/12 5:41 a.m.
                                                                 Re: If there's no "cure" to the Flood...davidfuchs 2/9/12 8:00 a.m.
                                                                       Re: If there's no "cure" to the Flood...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/9/12 8:02 a.m.
                                                                             Re: If there's no "cure" to the Flood...Bry 2/9/12 10:30 a.m.
                                                                                   Well, crap.Quirel 2/9/12 10:37 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: Well, crap.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/9/12 11:46 a.m.
                                                                                               Re: Well, crap.Quirel 2/9/12 5:06 p.m.
     Re: Flood and evolutionGeneral Vagueness 2/9/12 11:37 a.m.
           Re: Flood and evolutionscarab 2/10/12 7:48 a.m.
                 Re: Flood and evolutionZackDark 2/10/12 5:04 p.m.
                       Re: Flood and evolutionStephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/10/12 5:19 p.m.
                             Re: Flood and evolutionZackDark 2/10/12 5:28 p.m.
                                   Re: Flood and evolutionStephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/10/12 6:08 p.m.
                 Re: Flood and evolutionGeneral Vagueness 2/10/12 7:43 p.m.
                 Re: Flood and evolutionGeneral Vagueness 2/10/12 10:25 p.m.



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