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Re: I'm Curious About Story
Posted By: Pkmnrulz240 <Pkmnrulz241@gmail.com>Date: 8/7/11 8:49 p.m.

In Response To: I'm Curious About Story (TAK)


: Well, I would like to see what it takes to produce a story in a Halo game.
: And why Reach's characters were the way they had been in the game (bland,
: boring unlike all the previous Bungie installments). And how Bungie will
: try to out do what they've created so far.

I think they would actually say the exact opposite: That Reach's characters had more emotion than characters in any other Halo game.

Halo has really never been very good at developing back story for characters, for better or for worse. For the Chief, that really added to peoples' hero image of him. The lack of a story behind him (and why he was the only Spartan around) with Halo 1 intrigued people, and then the books that explained some background just made him that much greater. Same with characters like Keyes.

What was really bad was the half-arsed attempts at giving characters backgrounds and emotions like ODST and Reach. ODST had the background story between Buck and Dare, which provided us with the most awkward cutscene in the entire series (that damn kiss... so forced.), but that was it, save for the little background we got from the ODST interview videos before the launch. Overall, it was such a half-baked attempt that I would have been happier with no background on any of the ODSTs.

Reach, meanwhile, tried too hard to have background. Adding emotion to characters like Jorge was poorly done, in my opinion. And interactions like the one between Jun and Jorge at the beginning of Long Night of Solace, when they're talking about Kat and Carter, and how "she's always had him dialed in." That's going in the right direction, but no elaboration. Again, it would have been better just to leave them as emotionless machines.

So, in summary: I agree that Reach's characters are bland and boring. I disagree that Halo's previous characters were any better. And yet I'm sure Bungie would say the exact opposite: That previous characters were bland and boring, but Reach's were full of personality and story.


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Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)urk 8/7/11 12:01 p.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)Harmanimus 8/7/11 12:06 p.m.
           Re: Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)Raaascal 8/7/11 4:06 p.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)Zeouterlimits 8/7/11 12:15 p.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)Postmortem 8/7/11 12:16 p.m.
           Also...Postmortem 8/7/11 5:03 p.m.
                 What was project PHOENIX? Any info would be great. *NM*AngelicLionheart 8/7/11 9:51 p.m.
                       D'oh! Meant to reply to main thread. *NM*AngelicLionheart 8/7/11 9:53 p.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 8/7/11 12:22 p.m.
           Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)INSANEdrive 8/7/11 2:21 p.m.
                 More Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel QuestionsINSANEdrive 8/7/11 3:48 p.m.
           Translation: IS HALO REACH CANON??? *NM*Hawaiian Pig 8/7/11 9:52 p.m.
                 Re: Translation: IS HALO REACH CANON???Flynn J Taggart 8/8/11 12:38 a.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)ChenK 8/7/11 12:28 p.m.
     urk the jurk wants questions.AngelicLionheart 8/7/11 12:40 p.m.
     FILM IT, PLEASE FILM IT. :D *NM*Jayshum 8/7/11 12:43 p.m.
           Re: FILM IT, PLEASE FILM IT. :DRaaascal 8/7/11 4:06 p.m.
     How often does Marty practice the air viola? *NM*Pkmnrulz240 8/7/11 12:50 p.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)katancik 8/7/11 12:57 p.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316) 8/7/11 12:58 p.m.
           and...Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316) 8/7/11 2:22 p.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)Hypertrooper 8/7/11 1:06 p.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)Lord Friendship 8/7/11 1:07 p.m.
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           one for the music mystronomis78 8/7/11 1:18 p.m.
                 It's Maestro *NM*Bryan newman 8/7/11 2:19 p.m.
                       Dyslexic:0 World:6,982,278,457 *NM*nomis78 8/7/11 8:45 p.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)Leviathan 8/7/11 1:16 p.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)General Vagueness 8/7/11 1:17 p.m.
     The original Halo 2 script. *NM*BlueNinja 8/7/11 1:18 p.m.
           That's not a question. Thats a 10-hour reenactment *NM*Leviathan 8/7/11 1:22 p.m.
                 Your point is...? *NM*Pkmnrulz240 8/7/11 1:41 p.m.
                       If they did it with fingerpuppets....bluerunner 8/7/11 1:46 p.m.
                             Me too *NM*scarab 8/7/11 2:25 p.m.
                             Re: If they did it with fingerpuppets....Dagoonite 8/7/11 2:26 p.m.
                 Re: That's not a question. Thats a 10-hour reenacturk 8/7/11 3:03 p.m.
                       Re: That's not a question. Thats a 10-hour reenactAsian Inferno 8/7/11 3:15 p.m.
           Re: The original Halo 2 script.SonofMacPhisto 8/7/11 6:38 p.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)CaneCutter 8/7/11 1:33 p.m.
           This! ^ *NM*Hyokin 8/7/11 1:38 p.m.
           Yeah, what about Bob? *NM*Sqorck 8/7/11 2:00 p.m.
                 Starring Richard Dreyfuss and Bill Murray. *NM*Gravemind 8/7/11 2:32 p.m.
           Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)urk 8/7/11 3:15 p.m.
                 343i MAKE IT HAPPEN! *NM* *NM*INSANEdrive 8/7/11 3:22 p.m.
                 Halo 2?Hyokin 8/7/11 3:25 p.m.
                       Re: Halo 2?TDSpiral 8/7/11 4:29 p.m.
                       Re: Halo 2?General Vagueness 8/7/11 9:25 p.m.
                 Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)CaneCutter 8/7/11 4:08 p.m.
                 Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)Pkmnrulz240 8/7/11 5:02 p.m.
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     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)Voho 8/7/11 1:49 p.m.
           agreed *NM*moicus 8/8/11 4:48 a.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)kanbo 8/7/11 1:50 p.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)RC Master 8/7/11 2:06 p.m.
     Hypothetically....TCKaos 8/7/11 2:11 p.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)Avateur 8/7/11 2:39 p.m.
           Easter eggsAvateur 8/7/11 2:41 p.m.
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                       Re: Beam TowersZackDark 8/7/11 10:02 p.m.
                             Good God y'all! *NM* *NM*Devil Mingy 8/7/11 10:26 p.m.
                 Re: Easter eggsurk 8/7/11 2:59 p.m.
                       Story elements get trickyAvateur 8/7/11 3:30 p.m.
                       Re: Easter eggskanbo 8/7/11 4:04 p.m.
                       Re: Easter eggsLord Friendship 8/7/11 9:46 p.m.
                             Re: Easter eggsdmiller 8/7/11 11:20 p.m.
                                   Re: Easter eggsAvateur 8/7/11 11:45 p.m.
                                         Re: Easter eggsdmiller 8/7/11 11:48 p.m.
                                               Re: Easter eggsAvateur 8/7/11 11:52 p.m.
                                               Re: Easter eggsZackDark 8/7/11 11:53 p.m.
                                                     Re: Easter eggsdmiller 8/8/11 12:30 a.m.
     Re: Totally Hypothetical Bungie Panel (PAX)scarab 8/7/11 3:12 p.m.
           You're ten years late :)uberfoop 8/7/11 3:45 p.m.
                 Re: You're ten years late :)Lurono 8/7/11 11:05 p.m.
     History of Halo story tellingSalazar14 8/7/11 3:42 p.m.
     What happened to Jun? (love U Levi) *NM*Flynn J Taggart 8/7/11 3:44 p.m.
           I BECAME TARTARUS. LONG STORY. *NM*JUN 8/7/11 4:02 p.m.
                 :0 *NM*kanbo 8/7/11 4:18 p.m.
                 Thanks for ruining FoA 2: Fisftul of Rukt, jerk! *NM*Leviathan 8/7/11 4:24 p.m.
                       Re: Thanks for ruining FoA 2: Fisftul of Rukt, jerpadraig08 8/7/11 4:26 p.m.
                 lmfao *NM*TDSpiral 8/7/11 4:33 p.m.
                       Re: iawtlmao *NM*Flynn J Taggart 8/7/11 4:57 p.m.
           Re: What happened to Jun? (love U Levi)NsU Soldier 8/7/11 10:48 p.m.
                 Re: What happened to Jun? (love U Levi)Flynn J Taggart 8/8/11 12:36 a.m.
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     Stories To TellGrimBrother IV 8/7/11 4:44 p.m.
           I really like this one...Lurono 8/7/11 11:13 p.m.
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     Some questions (unrelated to Halo)kornman00 8/7/11 5:29 p.m.
           One Halo-related question (passenger health)kornman00 8/8/11 6:11 a.m.
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     I'm Curious About StoryTAK 8/7/11 7:52 p.m.
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