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Game Miles and Object Scale
Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net>Date: 5/15/06 10:54 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Followup: Artifact model created for G:E (Stephen L. (SoundEffect))

: I think it's just the progress in game resources that they can have that now
: as geometry (regardless of scale) rather than relegate it to a bitmap
: texture. Again, as I had said in a previous thread, the new HDR lighting
: will react cooler upon geometry now than with a flat texture unresponsive
: to dynamic lighting.

That's a good point.

Just a followup question: in your page comparing the scale of objects in Halo, you mentioned that relatively few objects were presented out of scale-- the T&R, the Halo itself, Threshold and Basis, for instance.

Those are all really huge, really far away, or both, with the exception of the T&R.

There's no particular reason to believe that anything (other than perhaps Mt. Kilimanjaro) in the H3 trailer is as large or as far away as any of those objects.

Bungie says the artifact is three miles across, so I'll take that at face value. Given that value, it seems conceivable to me that the buildings in the distance are rougly five times further away than that.

I'd love to get a definitive answer and maybe we will, but I think that although it's not logically ironclad, I'm willing to go down the following road:

1) We can render geometry 16 game miles away.
2) The city in the distance is New Mombasa.
3) New Mombasa in the trailer is geometry.

and conclude that:

4) New Mombasa is < 16 miles away.

I realize this is merely an assertion of probability and not something that necessarily follows from the three assumptions.

I do, of course realize that they could scale new mombasa as you've suggested and that would invalidate the conclusion-- however, I'd suggest that the question of scaling anything invalidates the concept of "game miles" anyway.

In other words, if I were Bungie, and I had scaled anything in that trailer, I doubt I'd have bothered to say how many "game miles" away we could render geometry, or else I'd have clarified that not everything was to scale.

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Where in New Mombasa?043 5/13/06 12:49 p.m.
     Re: Where in New Mombasa?DarthBibble 5/13/06 12:51 p.m.
     Re: Where in New Mombasa?Grantix 5/13/06 12:52 p.m.
           Re: Where in New Mombasa?043 5/13/06 12:58 p.m.
                 Re: Where in New Mombasa?Dojorkan 5/13/06 12:59 p.m.
           Re: Where in New Mombasa?O81PenitentThingy 5/13/06 1:49 p.m.
                 Geological Formations?Geoff Chang 5/13/06 2:37 p.m.
                       Re: Geological Formations?Quantum 5/13/06 3:05 p.m.
                             Satellite Images of FormationGeoff Chang 5/13/06 3:48 p.m.
                             Re: Geological Formations?j41m3z 5/13/06 4:56 p.m.
                       front-paged *NM*Miguel Chavez 5/14/06 8:50 p.m.
                       Re: Geological Formations?gunluva 5/14/06 8:51 p.m.
                       Re: Geological Formations?Blackhawk 5/14/06 9:06 p.m.
                             Re: Geological Formations?Sarge Tomzilla 5/14/06 9:50 p.m.
                       My hat is doffed. Well done, sir! *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/14/06 9:31 p.m.
                       Re: Geological Formations?Chryton 5/14/06 11:09 p.m.
                       Re: Geological Formations?MarkHawk 5/15/06 6:09 a.m.
                             Re: Geological Formations?Xaos 5/15/06 6:08 p.m.
                       Followup: Artifact model created for G:EAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/15/06 9:52 a.m.
                             Re: Followup: Artifact model created for G:ENarcogen 5/15/06 10:22 a.m.
                                   Re: Followup: Artifact model created for G:EStephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/15/06 7:34 p.m.
                                         Re: Followup: Artifact model created for G:ENarcogen 5/15/06 8:40 p.m.
                                               Re: Followup: Artifact model created for G:EStephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/15/06 9:19 p.m.
                                                     Game Miles and Object ScaleNarcogen 5/15/06 10:54 p.m.
                                                           Re: Game Miles and Object ScaleStephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/15/06 11:40 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Game Miles and Object ScaleNarcogen 5/16/06 12:58 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Game Miles and Object ScaleOmega 5/16/06 8:20 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Game Miles and Object ScaleNarcogen 5/16/06 9:41 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Game Miles and Object ScaleUrsusArctos 5/16/06 1:08 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Game Miles and Object ScaleStephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/16/06 10:53 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Game Miles and Object ScaleUrsusArctos 5/16/06 11:33 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Game Miles and Object ScaleStephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/17/06 12:29 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Game Miles and Object ScaleOmega 5/17/06 9:13 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Game Miles and Object ScaleStephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/17/06 11:35 p.m.
                                   Re: Followup: Artifact model created for G:Evectorb 5/15/06 8:01 p.m.
                       Re: Geological Formations?Juniper 5/15/06 11:03 a.m.
                       I love you.Vironex 5/15/06 1:17 p.m.
                             Doesn't make senseSlith 5/15/06 1:33 p.m.
                                   Re: Doesn't make sensesorahn 5/15/06 2:48 p.m.
                       Re: Geological Formations?{MERC} Sev1207 5/15/06 3:18 p.m.
                       Creepy CoincidenceThe First Spartan 5/15/06 4:49 p.m.
                       I think I've found the real location (PROOF)Jordan117 5/17/06 12:12 a.m.
                       7Arbiter _347 5/17/06 7:04 a.m.
                             Re: 7Mikezoom 5/17/06 7:41 a.m.
     Re: Where in New Mombasa?Gordon Freeman 5/13/06 5:54 p.m.
           Re: Where in New Mombasa?BioBallistic 5/14/06 11:21 p.m.
                 Re: Where in New Mombasa?Coffin Joe 5/14/06 11:35 p.m.
                 Re: Where in New Mombasa?AOClaus 5/15/06 6:21 p.m.
           Re: Where in New Mombasa?Black Guard 5/15/06 4:41 a.m.
                 Re: Where in New Mombasa?carno 5/15/06 4:17 p.m.



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