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Re: Halo 3 Advertising... My Musings.
Posted By: Count Zero <countzero@bungie.org>Date: 6/25/05 11:59 p.m.

In Response To: Halo 3 Advertising... My Musings. (Jinno)

: Oh my God, Shameless plug! D: Anywho yeah, I really hope that Stubbs does
: well, I'm looking forward to seeing how Seropian's (If it was your idea
: then by god take credit) game making strategy worked out. The whole hiring
: contractors seems brilliant, and I can't wait to see if it actually
: worked. But anywhich...

: There's one thing I don't agree with about your first post Mr. Soell, (Brown
: nosing, please disregard D:) No matter what kind of figures Microsoft was
: trying to get for Halo 2, much of the hype was based on how great Halo 1
: was. By upping their hype in the Advertising department, and making the
: game as a whole more Mainstream, well, it pissed off a bunch of people.

: In terms of Xbox Live, extending the fanbase has ruined the game. I find that
: half the time I can never get a decent game because I either get cheated
: at every turn, or I'm playing with a 9 year old (stereotype) who shouldn't
: even be allowed to play this game, (Technically being 15 I shouldn't
: either, but by god I'm more mature than half of the 17 year olds in the
: country), who seems obssessed with doing horrible and placing the blame on
: me or another team mate. They also generally seem intent on proving that
: I'm a "faggot", or a "nub." For God's sake, when the
: hell did people forget how to pronounce n00b?

: The reason that Microsoft shouldn't do nearly as much advertising for Halo 3,
: is the fact that its HALO. Throw up a single TV Advertisement in Halo 2
: announcement trailer fashion, and gamers will be hooked and set to buy the
: game.
: Throw some more advertisements on the web and in magazines and you've got a
: game set to sell more than any other game before it again. Maybe a sequel
: to iLoveBees, and you've already made the best advertisement plan for the
: greatest game out there.

: However, if they go for a Mainstream approach on Halo 3, it will kill it. The
: players who disliked Halo 2 for its "dumbed" down story, and
: best weapon wins balance, and susceptible-ness to cheating will not get
: it. The figures will be lower than before. The key to Halo 3 will be to
: make everything feel as powerful as it "should." The plasma
: pistol went from being a great weapon that could actually be plausible in
: battle, to something that only takes out the shield.
: Whoop-de-frickin'-doo. Also... lower auto aim, and make the headshot range
: the actual head. I don't like being entirely behind a wall, and then
: having a battle rifle shoot beside me, and rather than hitting the collumn
: I'm behind, hitting me in the head and killing me. Maybe throw in an area
: defined damage level too, that way I don't get sniped in the foot and die
: one shot.

: And... for the next game, don't remove any glitches, or change up the
: weapons, or any stuff like that. Remove stuff that is bad. Extremely bad,
: and is a rapid occurence. Don't take out Sword Flying, in fact, put it
: back in, as a custom game option. Don't allow it in Matchmaking. Also, for
: the next game, don't release it until it is up to your standards on
: everything. Remove all the bugs, glitches, anything you can find. Delay
: the game if you have to. Just because you've got the biggest wallet in the
: world, breathing down your neck with greed, doesn't mean you should allow
: things to stay in just because you're being forced into a release date.

: To quote J Allard "We'll release it when its ready." Halo 2 didn't
: get that treatment. I hope to god that Halo 3 does.

: ~Jinno

I suggest you go back and read Matt's posts a few more times, because you seem to be ignoring a lot of the points he made. The best thing to keep in mind is that this online forum is a tiny fraction of the Halo community not representative of the whole, and for every ex-Halo 1 player who was upset by some aspect of the Halo 2 game and marketing there are thousands of people, both new players and veterans, who were completely happy with the game but don't bother to come here and post about it.

It may be a hard fact to swallow, but we here, the ones who most loudly and frequently profess our devotion to the game, are on the outskirts of the Halo community. The real Halo community is the one you never see online- the millions of people who bought the game, took it home, and simply played it. And chances are they bought the game because they saw one of the ads that everyone here loves to complain about. The ads look silly and "dumbed-down" to us because we are not the audience that Microsoft is trying to attract- and that audience is FAR larger than the group that will be upset by the marketing campaign.


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Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogDiss3nt 6/24/05 8:34 p.m.
     Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogLOTIONMAN 6/24/05 8:58 p.m.
           Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogDiss3nt 6/24/05 9:04 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogJ 6/24/05 9:26 p.m.
     Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my Blogzink 6/24/05 9:37 p.m.
     Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my Blogdeadmonkey 6/24/05 10:38 p.m.
           Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogDiss3nt 6/24/05 10:50 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogMilhouse 6/25/05 1:41 p.m.
                       Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogShaun 6/27/05 2:03 a.m.
           I like it! I commented as well, Rio258k *NM*rio258k 6/25/05 9:57 p.m.
           Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my Blogyurahn 6/29/05 8:56 a.m.
           Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my Blogyurahn 6/29/05 8:57 a.m.
     I agree.Mr. Mech 6/25/05 7:27 a.m.
           Re: I agree.Diss3nt 6/25/05 7:52 a.m.
     I very rarely post, but needed to say somethingStickFigureNinja 6/25/05 12:04 p.m.
     A Lesson for the Misguided and IgnorantAn anonymous game developer 6/25/05 12:11 p.m.
           Re: A Lesson for the Misguided and IgnorantDiss3nt 6/25/05 1:25 p.m.
                 Re: A Lesson for the Misguided and IgnorantJester VR 6/25/05 1:41 p.m.
                 Re: A Lesson for the Misguided and IgnorantEndbringer 6/25/05 2:19 p.m.
           Re: A Lesson for the Misguided and IgnorantSpartan235 6/25/05 9:54 p.m.
                 Re: A Lesson for the Misguided and Ignorantrio258k 6/26/05 12:25 a.m.
           Your title applied to you as well.Jinno 6/26/05 12:19 a.m.
                 That's probably why he posted as "Anonymous" *NM*GameJunkieJim 6/26/05 12:25 a.m.
     Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogMatt 6/25/05 6:09 p.m.
           Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogChaos Recon 6/25/05 6:51 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 6/26/05 9:01 a.m.
                       Shakespere was a hack ;-) *NM*GameJunkieJim 6/26/05 9:45 a.m.
                 Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogDan Chosich 6/26/05 9:24 a.m.
           Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogJester VR 6/25/05 7:21 p.m.
                 Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogDiss3nt 6/25/05 7:56 p.m.
                       Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogFlawed Legacy 6/25/05 9:06 p.m.
                             Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogDiss3nt 6/25/05 9:14 p.m.
                       Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogJinno 6/25/05 11:37 p.m.
                             Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my Blogblaz 6/26/05 12:20 a.m.
                 Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogMatt 6/25/05 11:03 p.m.
                       Halo 3 Advertising... My Musings.Jinno 6/25/05 11:32 p.m.
                             Re: Halo 3 Advertising... My Musings.Count Zero 6/25/05 11:59 p.m.
                                   ^^Good Point^^ Very Well Said *NM*Mintz08 6/26/05 12:44 a.m.
                                   Re: Halo 3 Advertising... My Musings.Ryan Broxterman 6/26/05 1:38 a.m.
                                         another good point^^ *NM*RC Master 6/26/05 10:35 a.m.
                                   Re: Halo 3 Advertising... My Musings.Diss3nt 6/26/05 9:52 a.m.
                             Re: Halo 3 Advertising... My Musings.Scarab 6/26/05 12:22 p.m.
                                   Re: Halo 3 Advertising... My Musings.Diss3nt 6/26/05 12:42 p.m.
                                         Re: Halo 3 Advertising... My Musings.Scarab 6/26/05 1:04 p.m.
                                               Re: Halo 3 Advertising... My Musings.Jinno 6/27/05 6:05 a.m.
                       Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogArt Vandelay 6/25/05 11:51 p.m.
                       Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my Blogpushbak 6/26/05 1:46 a.m.
                             ^^Good question^^ *NM*Coffin Joe 6/26/05 2:00 a.m.
                                   ^Not really.gspawn 6/26/05 10:10 a.m.
           Excellent set of thoughts. I agree. *NM*serpx 6/25/05 11:29 p.m.
           Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my Blogda 6/26/05 12:52 p.m.
           Re: Halo 3: My Musings on my BlogMthdDirector 6/26/05 11:50 p.m.



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